MyMagic+ article from Fast Company magazine

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
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I've honestly tried hard to not take anything on here too seriously. Of course no hard feelings. You've basically said I don't say things to offend people. I do try not to, though fail at it from time to time.
Well that es me off. The irony of my situation will haunt me.
 

John

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I haven't gotten caught up on the 18 pages, yet (maybe it will be more by the time I finish the article)...but, this is a better place to post my random thoughts as I read through it. A lot of it is just random opinions and thoughts of mine, so...sorry so long.

1) To the author, I really enjoy your writing style. It keeps me going from paragraph to paragraph. In an era where bloggers/online "reporters" tend not to write very well at all, this was quite refreshing! Thanks for posting.

2) I take issue with this (not saying it's not true, but it is a silly conclusion on their part).

"We were failing to recognize key consumer trends that were starting to influence how people interacted with brands," says one former executive. Inside the company, Disney World became known as a "burning platform." As the former executive explains, "If we miss out on that next generation of guests, suddenly our burning platform is fully on fire—panic mode."

I'm not sure Disney has any idea how much of a hold they already have on that next Generation then. When I was growing up, it was stupid to want to go to Disney after a certain age (ahem...teens). Now? Yeah...ask someone 4 years older than me (36) and they think it's stupid. Ask kids in their early to mid 20s who have or will be starting families soon...yeah... And, it has nothing to do with "apps" and "magicbands"...

Cons and social media had more to do with it than much else.

3) I'm not sure this is correct...

"The park was filled with complications, such as a tiered ticketing system with wonky rules."

Huh? That was decades upon decades ago. There have been KTTW cards for quite a while, and it's been a VERY long time since A-E ticket systems were used. I don't recall the year offhand, but it had to be no later than the early to mid 80s when that ticketing scheme was dropped at WDW.

4) I'm not sure I agree with this either...

"The rest of Disney is younger, more progressive—risk takers—but [Parks] is not," explains one former high-level company leader with strong ties to NGE. "It’s built to be industrial and resilient, for consistency and volume; it’s not built for change."

Yeah...but that's not where it started, nor is it the history of the parks. Just look into Disneyland's history of change, not to mention WDW (4 major theme parks, one every 7 - 10 years, for 3 decades, and then BAM...pretty much nothing of any scale and scope for the past 15 years...though that tide is shifting with NFL and Avatarland, I wholly admit...but that's where the fan gripes came from, and, it's arguable, perhaps, that Iger and Co began to come around that plastic wristbands don't beat amazing experiences). It's the fallacious thinking that makes executives think that new rides and experiences are worth less than plastic wristbands and iPhone apps.

5) "Parks has tried big, transformational efforts before, but most failed because the culture killed them," the former high-level leader says.

Then, maybe, that's where your core issue is...

6) A character like Goofy, with access to real-time guest data, could even wish happy birthday to a child without prompting. For years, birthday boys and girls had worn a little button on their clothing to get such recognition.

- and -

"old-school inefficiencies like birthday buttons."

This...just makes me so frustrated I could claw my eyes out with the overly ambitious and short-sighted nature of the concept. Yes, and those buttons, on a six year old's chest, and they are, generally, proud of them as they march around with them on their little chests. Also, the fact it's a cheap trinket for Disney to give out, but one that is free, is something that parents look on as a good show. I'm willing to wager those buttons don't get thrown out and make it into scrapbooks years later. I know I still have my kid's "first visit" button, and it means a heck of a lot more to me than her third plastic wristband. The double service is that they prompt not just Goofy (who can't speak in costume, though they are playing with Talking Mickey, I don't think he's become a full time thing at the M&Gs yet), but ALL cast members to wish them a happy birthday or first visit. My arguments are not placed in some conservative, obstructionist mindset. It's that this is such backwards thinking!

Ok, gonna take a break with "chapter 2"

Again, a shout out to the author, I think it's neat how you broke the story up into "chapters" and named them after Disney rides. Good show! But, I need to take a break for a few minutes and grab a snack.

REALLY enjoying this!

have read hundreds of post from you......this is far the best one I have read.
 

khale1970

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Yep.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/official-universal-orlando/id878217080?mt=8

And, they aren't as reliant as Disney (for obvious logistical reasons) on wifi as the local data/cellular networks are far more available. Hard to find "low signal" at Uni, as I recall.

On my families trip last June (just after this announcement) I was unable to access the WiFi at UNI. It showed but wouldn't connect. Then again, it's a Comcast product so no real surprise with the bad service.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
1) "Rasulo would respond, "Well, we're heading down this path. This is the direction we're going.""

So...in other words, this got ramrodded down everyone's throat...including those who have a much better view of what it really takes to make it work and what impact it would or could have. I find it difficult that every single objection was inappropriate or simply to (ahem, excuse the term) "protect one's castle").

But, regarding "protecting the castle"...the next few paragraphs make me want to scream.

2) Insiders say the Frog team found the internal struggles withering. They faced opposition from a whiny corporate force: Disney’s Whinegineers.

There, fixed that for you. Cause, that's how they were treated.

3) "The Frog industrial-design team really ed off the Imagineers, stepping all over their toes and fighting turf battles," explains one insider.

Defending the integrity of the Park experience, what separates it from a churn and burn Six Flags thrill experience, or even, frankly Universal, at it's core WAS what I'm gonna quote next, so...

4) "Imagineers argued that the uniformity of the access points would disrupt the spirit of their uniquely stylized attractions. For example, seeing Mickey’s face on every post would be disconcerting, since there were wide swaths of the park that had nothing to do with the Mouse at all. Ditto for those waist-high digital posts; what business did something looking like a shiny modern mailbox have in the foreground of a medieval castle? The Imagineers preferred designs that would be immersed in the theme of each Disney World ride: futuristic ones for Tomorrowland, Wild West–style ones in Frontierland, and so forth. Their preferences reflected their deepest goal, which is to protect the sanctity of children’s imaginations as they engage with real-life fairy tales at the park. Says veteran Imagineer Joe Rohde, "If I’m supposed to be living with fairies, fairies don’t have iPhones or MagicBands."

Just read that. My respect for Rohde just shot up ten-million percent.

5) "The Frog team was aghast. They felt the Imagineers’ criticism went against basic user-experience design."

That's because it wasn't based on the sort of "UI" they were trying to design. Was their design and choices based on solid good UI design? Yes. But, how would you feel if Skyrim looked the same as Mario Kart because...well...UI. Right? RIGHT?

Flipping dummies didn't get it. Basically what they were doing was slapping you out of the "immersive imagination experience" and putting a "tutorial mode" where you get to see "Press X to Jump" and "Press Y to run" with the trademarked button graphics from a PS controller on them.

So, was Frog "wrong"? Nope. But they certainly were far from "right", imho.

Ok, I need another snack.
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
kjhgy
Asking questions, no. Blatantly calling it a puff piece? Yes.

You've asked questions, Spirit. Others have made accusations. I wasn't refferring to your Royal Spirited Self, considering that you hadn't responded when I posted the message you quoted. I will say now, though, that he is a journalist, and Fast Company is so reputable (and at times controversial) that questioning their journalistic integrity really is something that makes me wonder...
Are you saying that the article did indeed cover topics such as disgruntled CM's or guests who had real issues with the system? Otherwise I dont see why you would be so offended at the idea of his, or anybodies criticism of the articles objectivity.
 

PhotoDave219

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I ain't done yet. But, I'm bored, and was posting these in another thread where they don't belong. It's basically stream of consciousness as I read the (quite well written, another shout out to the author) article.

Anyhow, snack in hand, off to chapter 2 (3?).

Lets just say I got more and more ed off at upper management as I read.

Because what have they really accomplished with this project that Disney didnt already have?
 

PhotoDave219

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1) "Rasulo would respond, "Well, we're heading down this path. This is the direction we're going.""

So...in other words, this got ramrodded down everyone's throat...including those who have a much better view of what it really takes to make it work and what impact it would or could have. I find it difficult that every single objection was inappropriate or simply to (ahem, excuse the term) "protect one's castle").

But, regarding "protecting the castle"...the next few paragraphs make me want to scream.

2) Insiders say the Frog team found the internal struggles withering. They faced opposition from a whiny corporate force: Disney’s Whinegineers.

There, fixed that for you. Cause, that's how they were treated.

3) "The Frog industrial-design team really ****ed off the Imagineers, stepping all over their toes and fighting turf battles," explains one insider.

Defending the integrity of the Park experience, what separates it from a churn and burn Six Flags thrill experience, or even, frankly Universal, at it's core WAS what I'm gonna quote next, so...

4) "Imagineers argued that the uniformity of the access points would disrupt the spirit of their uniquely stylized attractions. For example, seeing Mickey’s face on every post would be disconcerting, since there were wide swaths of the park that had nothing to do with the Mouse at all. Ditto for those waist-high digital posts; what business did something looking like a shiny modern mailbox have in the foreground of a medieval castle? The Imagineers preferred designs that would be immersed in the theme of each Disney World ride: futuristic ones for Tomorrowland, Wild West–style ones in Frontierland, and so forth. Their preferences reflected their deepest goal, which is to protect the sanctity of children’s imaginations as they engage with real-life fairy tales at the park. Says veteran Imagineer Joe Rohde, "If I’m supposed to be living with fairies, fairies don’t have iPhones or MagicBands."

Just read that. My respect for Rohde just shot up ten-million percent.

5) "The Frog team was aghast. They felt the Imagineers’ criticism went against basic user-experience design."

That's because it wasn't based on the sort of "UI" they were trying to design. Was their design and choices based on solid good UI design? Yes. But, how would you feel if Skyrim looked the same as Mario Kart because...well...UI. Right? RIGHT?

Flipping dummies didn't get it. Basically what they were doing was slapping you out of the "immersive imagination experience" and putting a "tutorial mode" where you get to see "Press X to Jump" and "Press Y to run" with the trademarked button graphics from a PS controller on them.

So, was Frog "wrong"? Nope. But they certainly were far from "right", imho.

Ok, I need another snack.

All the Frogs did was to take existing Disney products and combine them with a SmartPhone app: KTTW & FP. Thats all we got.

Maybe that stuff is new to a SF based consultant but to people with a legacy in the company or to returning guests and the existing guest base, its nothing new. Its just shinier.... and I have to plan all my stuff out in advance.
 

AustinC

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OK, I read the piece and it was quite enjoyable/entertaining.

No, it wasn't 'just another' PR piece for TWDC. So, score one for Austin Carr and Fast Company!

''Bob Iger wanted approval'' ... I do love that lede.

I don't want to repeat what others have said, especially since there are some great posts from @JediMasterMatt and @hopemax that enter some of the territory I wanted to cover that do a fine job.

I would like to ask again if Fast Company takes placed and/or paid content? (No, Jake, I'm not suggesting this story is either ... just trying to determine a full view of the publication as it's not regular reading for me and I doubt it is for most people here. And, yes, my understanding is that, in general, it is a pro-business pub.)

There were things I liked and things I took issue with, but instead of doing a pros and cons, since I am pressed for time this evening, I'll just list things as they came to me. You can determine for yourself whether they fit as a pro or con.

I was amused by the line ''It is not the story Disney wants you to hear.'' ... Coming in the wake of Mrs. Bob Iger's, Willow Bay's, role in censoring an Op-Ed in the HuffPo (no, @sshindel , I don't find censorship funny and doubt you would, if it happened to be your voice that was silenced.) entitled 'Disney CEO Fumbles Entry to China' by a member of Sumner Redstone's clan of crazies, no less, I don't for a second believe your story was something Disney doesn't want read.

If that were the case, then it wouldn't likely be in print and Disney certainly wouldn't have made folks like Tom Staggs available for one-on-ones. You have described an extraordinary level of cooperation coming from Burbank and Glendale and Orlando. And there's no way Nick Franklin would have ever been allowed to speak to you on the record without explicit consent from Disney. I know how those contracts are structured.

I recall the ex-O-Town Sentinel beat writer (Jason Garcia) practically begging for cooperation in writing about NGE and he got absolutely none and the indepth story he was trying to write never saw the light of day.

When your source says, ''You don't mess with the Mouse.'', I do believe that is a bit of what I am describing.

So, rest assured, tonight that Zenia Mucha isn't working to smear you and destroy your career. Disney is likely crowing about the story you wrote, even if some of it does rise to legit, and fair criticism of the company, its style and, indeed, this project.

I recall you mentioned early on that there was a sense of ''palpable excitement'' in that 2011 meeting when NGE was fully presented. I assume you weren't present, so I'm guessing that was just a bit of hyperbolic expression or were you retelling what others told you?

I know others, including the highly respected @ParentsOf4, have warned about making any pronouncements about the 'success' (or failure) of NGE, yet you proclaim it a success early in your story. I'm guessing that's simply your opinion based on what you saw, heard and experienced because you can't judge the success of a project based on data that is incomplete at best. Disney has been very coy at saying much of anything about this over the last three years.

I liked how you focused on the issues that Disney said it was trying to solve with this program (none of which actually included adding major new attractions or entertainment to its parks). That was absolutely the genesis of NGE '' How do we make more money without building new things, while improving Guest satisfaction scores?''

That's where it all came from.

High cost was a metric you mentioned, but if it was an issue a decade ago, then you should have mentioned what NGE has done for costs of a WDW vacation. What are prices like in 2015 versus 2005 or 2008 or 2010? I think you know they have gone in one direction only: through the roof.

I know it is tough (from experience) writing something like you did with people refusing to go on the record, however, you run the risk of people tuning out when 3/4ers of your quotes are from unnamed sources.

I know as a tech writer that you are coming from that angle, but I had to laugh when you called Be Our Guest ''radical'' ... I guess it is if you like waiting and baking in the sun to get into a fast food restaurant for lunch. But all I could think was ''there's nothing radical about the lousy French Onion Soup or serving cupcakes as the only dessert option!' Yes, the roast beef sandwich is tasty, but those Cockerell fries (ask if the community if you want to know) are awful.

You say that Iger ... or present him as someone who only wanted NGE for WDW, but that fundamentally goes against how it was sold to everyone from the BoD to Wall Street to fans to CMs. It was sold as a revolutionary system that would start at WDW and then roll out world-wide (well, except for Tokyo, where Disney doesn't own the parks at all and the compant that does wants no part of this ... or China where there are unique hurdles) ... but certainly Anaheim and Paris were going to get the treatment. That talk died down years ago, but it doesn't change the fact that this project may not have gotten approval as simply a WDW-exclusive. And that's what it seems destined to be.

I have to ask where those Steve Jobs quotes came from? Was it written in the minutes of a meeting or in a memo? Or was it relayed to you by Staggs or Rasulo or Franklin (who needed work the last time I checked)
as quoting a dead guy when you aren't privy to what he said is a bit dangerous, IMHO.

I thought as the story meandered on that you made some great points about MM+ not delivering on personalization. I almost took it like Staggs (why does every writer have to talk about his healthy lifestyle? Seriously, it means nothing to a story like this and simply adds word count!) snapped at you about Guests loving those B-Day buttons.

It was that personalization aspect that sold the company, largely, on moving ahead because the proponents of NGE saw it as a way to increase revenue. All these things ... from animated window displays that interacted with MAGIC Bands ...like your 8-year-old likes dinosaurs and when he passes a window in DinoLand, a diorama comes alive and does things and you wind up spending $125 on toys you weren't planning on ... or your daughter is a big fan of Beauty and the Beast and when she passes under one of the new Castle archways, the theme from the movie plays and the lighting changes ... or when you're tucking the kids into bed at the Poly, Lilo and Stitch wish them good night from the mirror and invite the family to a $30 a head character breakfast etc. were designed to increase revenue. How can that ever happen when those parts of MM+ have simply been left ignored (like those screens on Small World)?

Great example with Dumbo of how a lot of money was spent with very little delivered (think you quoted MacPhee on that, but could be mistaken). A tent waiting area with pagers ... all to ride a spinner. Great investment or wasted spend? You be the judge.

I'm not going to argue the point about the project coming in underbudget (I could have pointed you in a different direction had I known you were writing this, but ...) I can say if you torture numbers enough they'll say anything.

And that quote by Staggs about ''making better copy" ... did he say that in person or email you it? Because it reads like something a publicist would say as they are thinking in that direction, not usual from a numbers guy.

I thought it was interesting to see the sub-heads used in the story. Don't know if they came from you, but when I saw things like Carousel of Progress, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride and Discovery Island, I thought ''these will definitely make fans think he's one of us.'' ... FYI, Disney's Senior Guest Recovery agents often use these 'nostalgia' fueled terms in dealing with unhappy Guests by making them think they're lovers of all that old Disney crap too. Team Disney has a list of these or did as of a few years ago.

Finally, I saw that Shanghai Disneyland Resort and My Magic Plus were mentioned after the comment about Staggs being elevated to No. 2. I doubt you are making a correlation there as both projects will be very long term in nature before results are seen. And Rasulo, who is widely hated in the fan community, had far more to do with both projects (as you noted in the story) than the guy who switched jobs with him.

Anyway, I found it an interesting and entertaining read ... I wish you would have gone further in-depth in a few areas where I felt you were right on the verge of saying something big, but often my best ideas come after I have hit post myself.

Thanks.

Thanks for the comment, and glad you enjoyed it overall, even though you may have a different perspective on the matter. I think having different perspectives on MM+ is very healthy , and part of what we were getting at in the story. I think reading this you can understand where the Imagineers are coming from, just as much as you can understand where Frog was coming from. I also believe you can likely read and interpret the story in a number of ways, especially certain quotes, which is what we're basically seeing play out in this thread. You might read Staggs' quotes one way; I can assure you a lot of folks read them a different way.

Anywho, thanks for reading.

Best,
Austin
 

AustinC

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Apologies, he did respond to a few posts this early this morning. Not much after that until his response to 74. Please odnt

Apologies, he did answer a few questions early this morning.

Indeed. As I mentioned before, I'm on assignment for another story, so I'm doing my best to fit this all in in between work/meetings/calls. Sincere apologies if you feel I'm not being responsive enough, but doing my best given limited time + its nearing midnight where I'm based + there's a lot of passionate, long responses to wade through (some often not including questions : ). Re: your last question, it just happened to be one I saw when I hopped back on the message board, so I responded! No big deal, as I said before, I'm happy to respond to those types of questions, but I feel like it's prob not using time here as judiciously as we could is all!
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Ok, continuing my thoughts...

1) "At this point, the project took on a new layer of complexity, as the NGE team felt the need to consistently dazzle the Disney brass. A key part of this was regularly showing off a complex prototype of the MyMagic+ experience. The team had outgrown its original home at Epcot and had moved to Disney World’s Hollywood Studios, inside a 12,000-square-foot soundstage. That’s where the NGE team built out its advanced R&D lab, or what Franklin calls a "living blueprint" that would "sell the vision.""

I find it darkly amusing that they used closed attractions at both EPCOT Center and HS (both parks lacking attractions) to build this whole mess out, as opposed to backstage areas and/or offsite rented property. It's like giving a big fat bite of the thumb to building new attractions, using park space to develop this.

Also, if you have to "sell the vision" so hard, it's probably not that great a vision.

2) With typical Disney flair, the soundstage became a storyboard brought to life, with a full-scale living room, including an iMac, which is where the archetypal family would book their Disney vacation via what’s now known as My Disney Experience, the website and mobile app for MyMagic+.

WHAT?

3) Next came the flight-arrival stage of the set, which simulated the experience at Orlando International, with actual seats that the NGE team had purchased from the airport.

WHAT?

4) There, family members would first touch their MagicBands to a digital access point, before proceeding to a replica Magical Express bus.

WHAT??????!?!?

5) Then came the hotel set, with actual front-desk counters and bedroom furniture from Disney’s Contemporary Resort, to reflect the new MyMagic+ check-in process.

WHAAHAJKGHSGLhkjdshjklsgdfhk

6) There were also mock-ups of the in-park experience, including a main entrance; a mini version of the Haunted Mansion ride to demonstrate how attractions could be personalized with consumer data; a small version of the Be Our Guest restaurant concept; merchandising and retail shops;

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7) a small version of the Be Our Guest restaurant concept; merchandising and retail shops;

Ok, I separate this out, because...I actually think the MBs make a HECK of a lot more sense, as well as the integrated Wifi and Apps in the FAR MORE easily controlled environment of DCL. In fact, I found myself wishing for my MB while on my cruise. But, I was also more likely to wander around in a t-shirt and swimtrunks, dip in the pool, then head down to grab a coffee on the way back to my stateroom than at WDW. It MAKES SENSE on DCL. Why they didn't start there (though they'll end up there, and I think that's a good thing) blows my mind.

8) "At Disney, you can’t just create a PowerPoint presentation and say, ‘Hey, give me $10 million to build this,’ " jokes Andy Schwalb.

Yeah, so lets make a 3 million dollar Powerpoint Presentation to say "Hey, give me 1 billion to build this thing". BRILLIANT!

9) "It goes back to Walt himself," explains a former top NGE manager. "The story carries the day." Often, sources say, the "theater" of selling an idea is more important than the idea itself.

Yes, but WALT was selling things that hadn't been constructed yet, so of course models were important. YOU HAD A WHOLE LIVING TEST LAB? Why recreate Contemporary when you are less than 5 miles from it?

10) An NGE source recalls how once, right before a presentation, Padgett told one team member with a British accent, "When you’re presenting to these guys, sound and act more British. It’ll just make the presentation go better." He wasn’t joking.

So he did his best impression of Dick van doing his Cockney, eh?

11) at one point, he recommended that the NGE team "cut [their ambitions] in half" and only worry about MyMagic+ at Disney World, rather than at other potential park sites or on cruise ships. By the tour's end, recalls former NGE leader Michelle Bentubo, "probably around nine of the executives ended up with Bob in the last room, and he [looked toward] Jim MacPhee, John Padgett, and Nick Franklin, and [said], 'It better work.' "

Sounds to me like someone (Iger) stopped sipping the sizzurb...but it was too far along to kill it and too many power players were vested.

12) Sources say that, despite not seeing MyMagic+ in person, Jobs pledged his support. "I love what you guys are doing,"

Of course he did. He loved the concept of Smartphones being everywhere, all the time, doing everything. And, he came to Disney not out of some love through Disney, but through the Pixar deal. He's HARDLY a theme park enthusiast, from what I recall, and certainly not Walt.

13) he is said to have conveyed to the group. "You won’t get everything right, but doing what you’ve been doing and believing that will remain the model for the next 20 years is also not right."

So, lets listen to the guy who is a consummate salesman, but not much else, about a market he doesn't understand, because he made a lot of money in a market he does. 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14) The NGE team presented so many different concepts to the Disney leadership that some wondered if their aim was simply to wow top leaders with the long-term potential of NGE through whiz-bang features.

Yeap, that is what their goal seems to have been. However, and this I can't comment on because I don't know, perhaps this was all some Machiavellian level scheme to get basic resort style infrastructure upgrades in place. If so, it's really sad when you can't just say "the wifi at our parks stink, and we should improve that"...so, I don't think that was the case at all.

15) A team started designing a plastic cart for the guest’s luggage, so compact that it would fit through a special Disneyx-ray machine without forcing passengers to separate and throw suitcases and backpacks on the conveyer belt. It was a sort of TSA PreCheck for baggage, which would seamlessly be transported straight to a guest’s hotel room. The team began discussing ways to reengineer airport x-ray machines, and Padgett even organized a meeting with TSA officials. "That project itself cost probably close to $500,000,"

Yeah, but no new rides. You think you can change Air Travel, or that the consumer is demanding that you do from YOU. But, 500k NOT spent (since you seemed willing to spend it) on something else. Heck, 500k probably could have kept PUSH around...one of the more unique a neat experiences at Disney...or at least stretched him on a few more years for more to experience (because, youtube aside, most guests did NOT see/meet/greet/experience PUSH).

Onto the next chapter after I grab another snack (this article is gonna make me fat, and I'm only halfway through).
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I thought the article was a pretty good read. It seems well researched and there are none of the obvious factual inaccuracies that we see in so many stories about WDW. I can't see how any rational person could consider it a puff piece, but I guess not everyone has to be rational.

I thought the vast majority of the regular posters here asked good questions and I think it's pretty cool that the author has stuck around to answer them. This has obviously been a hot topic issue around here for years now and brings out a lot of passion. It's interesting to me to see something written from the perspective of an unbiased outsider.

Thanks so much for the kind words.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Ok...these next points are gonna be short and sweet...

1) Should the software fall under IT?

Yes, with consultation from Marketing and Operations.

2) Should the merchandising division control the MagicBand?

For design only, the rest should be the purvue of IT.

3) Since the project would completely alter park transactions—admission, payments, crowd flow

The first two they didn't, and the latter is still a Pie in the Sky promise.

4) shouldn’t operations take charge?

Operations probably didn't want it in the first place, and saw it as overcomplicating the process. And, yes, their concerns should have been taken into greater consideration. This isn't Walt or even Eisner building a new park no one was would sure would attract visitors, this was capitalizing on a captive audience. It wasn't "blue ocean", as some would put it, it was "red ocean"...it's just that Disney, and specifically WDW, is large enough that they have their own ocean.

5) The infighting grew intense. "Look, let’s put it crudely: People were protecting their jobs!" says one VP–level NGE source.

And that man, I think, is an idiot. There may have been some of that, but most of it, not so much. It goes back to the "protecting the castle" misconstruct I mentioned in a previous post. It's easy, in corporate culture, to assume that is what is going on, but to use it as an excuse to ignore genuine concerns and shut down honest inter-departmental debate to shove a technology that you don't even plan (according to Iger's statement alluded in the previous article) to take system wide is just sheer arrogance and lunacy.

6) For example, if ticketing were to get digitized, many jobs held by traditional ticketing folks might become irrelevant.

Ticketing has been "digitized" for over a decade.

7) Staggs encouraged a policy that’s internally referred to as "constructive discomfort," which was meant to guard against cultural complacency by fostering collaboration. "People would say, ‘Okay, this looks a little bit scary because it’s different, but it’s been this way for years, and it’s worked really, really well,’ " he tells me. "That’s a recipe for stagnation."

As long as it's not the "this is the direction we are going" Rasulo appeared to take, then I think Staggs handled it well. There ARE benefits to the new system for Disney departments, as well as new opporunities...but there is also overselling benefits...and underselling them to those who will have to deal with Mrs. Snitty Shell from New Jersey who is upset that her kid didn't get a kiss on the cheek from Belle during her visit to Akershus.

8) "Imagineering is an incredible organization but it has become as institutional as the rest," says a former high-level Disney leader. "They dream of building these big icons of their creative expression, but when a capital budget shows we’re going to invest in changing the established guest experience rather than spend on a big fixed asset, that doesn’t get met with love."

Right...that's cause they know what butters your bread. NEW ATTRACTIONS AND EXPERIENCES.

9) "Then, late in the game, these folks came in going, ‘We knew this was going to be a problem.’ We were like, ‘Really? Where have you been for the last three and a half years?!?’ "

Being ignored, I suspect.

10) As IT gained a significant foothold into MyMagic+, some credit the group with ultimately improving the technical underpinnings of MyMagic+; others claim it took advantage of the situation to secure greater leverage and resources.

Ok, I want to be very clear about this. IF YOU ARE PLANNING SOMETHING WHICH INVOLVES TECHNOLOGY, BUT YOU CONSIDER THE iPHONE REVOLUTIONARY, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD INCLUDE AT LEAST A FEW PEOPLE FROM YOUR IT DEPARTMENT IN IT FAR BEFORE YOU GET THIS CLOSE TO IMPLEMENTATION!

I mean, jeez, I know you "business sorts" love to see yourselves as visionary and all that mess, but not every IT person is a fat nerd living in their mother's basement.

Sorry for the caps, but...this really ticks me off because I've seen it in multiple organizations.

11) At one point, IT pushed the division to build its own Windows-based tablets, eventually named the 2400 and the 9000, for cast members. One source calls the devices "god-awful bricks. We didn’t need their $3,000, piece-of-, custom-mademobile devices." Parks eventually opted for iPod Touches and iPads.

And, my point is proven. Instead of working together to find WHAT you needed, you look upon them as antiquated and idiotic, when they have a heck of a lot more an idea what it goes into making that iPod and iPad work than you probably do, and there may have been reasons why they went with their solution that you overlooked because you wanted something consumer and sexy. Neither position is "wrong", but neither is completely "right".

12) As this dynamic played out, the company turned to outside software consultancies, all feasting on Disney's resources for the project, which one partner describes as a "cash cow." (According to a knowledgeable source, Accenture billed over $100 million for its role in developing MyMagic+.) Says a leader of one of these project consultancies, "We were basically chartered as a shadow organization [to the IT group], like a backup plan in case hits the fan."

I hate to emulate a point that is made by a rather fond member of the forum, but if you as CEO felt your IT leadership was this disjointed and out of touch with technology, maybe a change in that leadership and a shake up there was in order. <sigh>....I'm gonna let up on this point before I belabour it.

Need another snack. Chips and salsa this time?
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
kjhgy

Are you saying that the article did indeed cover topics such as disgruntled CM's or guests who had real issues with the system? Otherwise I dont see why you would be so offended at the idea of his, or anybodies criticism of the articles objectivity.

Hey there, I don't know what your issue with me is, because I've been patient and kind throughout this process, and happy to answer as many questions as I can. But just seems like you keep spreading misinformation, like saying I only created 2 posts (I mean, I just joined the forum, so you can clearly see the # of messages I've made today is substantially higher than 2). You also say my article does not include "one example of the myriad of problems that a guest can experience with NGE that did not exist prior."

Which is weird, because our story reads, "A slew of problems reared up after launch: The My Disney Experience app was buggy, digital access points would turn blue when they were supposed to turn green, hotel reservations were a mess, and guests griped that the new FastPass+ system was unintuitive and difficult to program."

And now you ask, "Are you saying that the article did indeed cover topics such as disgruntled CM's or guests who had real issues with the system?" Which seems to imply that this wasn't included, even though we have the following line in the story: "Honestly, it’s not so magical," one cast member tells me about MyMagic+, echoing a common sentiment I hear from park employees during my visit. "It’s just for your hotel room [door] and paying for things."

Anyway, my point is, I don't mind enthusiasm. I don't mind this brand of message-board zeal. Disagree with me, totally cool! But at least try to get your facts straight. And if you feel something is missing in the story, then just ask rather than preemptively criticizing!

If you wanted to ask what I learned from cast members, I'd happily tell you. If you wanted to ask what, specifically, went wrong post-MM+ launch, I would tell you! But instead of talking about "complex reservations" and the huge issues the company faced in 2013/2014 with the program, we're talking about how many times I did or didn't post; whether I'm a journalist worthy of your high ethical standards; whether I've disclosed my finances/conflicts with Disney; etc.
 

Nubs70

Well-Known Member
Hey there, I don't know what your issue with me is, because I've been patient and kind throughout this process, and happy to answer as many questions as I can. But just seems like you keep spreading misinformation, like saying I only created 2 posts (I mean, I just joined the forum, so you can clearly see the # of messages I've made today is substantially higher than 2). You also say my article does not include "one example of the myriad of problems that a guest can experience with NGE that did not exist prior."

Which is weird, because our story reads, "A slew of problems reared up after launch: The My Disney Experience app was buggy, digital access points would turn blue when they were supposed to turn green, hotel reservations were a mess, and guests griped that the new FastPass+ system was unintuitive and difficult to program."

And now you ask, "Are you saying that the article did indeed cover topics such as disgruntled CM's or guests who had real issues with the system?" Which seems to imply that this wasn't included, even though we have the following line in the story: "Honestly, it’s not so magical," one cast member tells me about MyMagic+, echoing a common sentiment I hear from park employees during my visit. "It’s just for your hotel room [door] and paying for things."

Anyway, my point is, I don't mind enthusiasm. I don't mind this brand of message-board zeal. Disagree with me, totally cool! But at least try to get your facts straight. And if you feel something is missing in the story, then just ask rather than preemptively criticizing!

If you wanted to ask what I learned from cast members, I'd happily tell you. If you wanted to ask what, specifically, went wrong post-MM+ launch, I would tell you! But instead of talking about "complex reservations" and the huge issues the company faced in 2013/2014 with the program, we're talking about how many times I did or didn't post; whether I'm a journalist worthy of your high ethical standards; whether I've disclosed my finances/conflicts with Disney; etc.
At what point of the stage gate process were frontline CM'S first brought into the process?
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Next chapter:

1) "They sure as hell had no ethernet networking, and didn’t even have a lot of power lines," says one source involved with the construction. "It was a huge effort to wire a communications infrastructure that was basically the same size as San Francisco."

Yeah, that's what you get when you are playing "catch up" on a trend that is two decades old. Maybe IT was inept, maybe Ops didn't want it coming out of their budget, maybe Sr. Execs weren't supportive, but, that is really the case. And, for the record, having experienced "wifi" at Disney vs "ethernet"...well, I'd still rather have ethernet in the hotels. Part of the reason I can take extended vacations to Disney is that I can continue to work, and Internet Access AT THE HOTEL is key to that work.

Cellular coverage is still meh, as of my last trip (which granted was a year and a half ago) and that is far more important to me than the "Disney-Guest" wifi...

2) "how cast members could use data to know when to wish a guest happy birthday"

Yeah, looking at a pin is hard. Here's a iTouch, now you can look up the guest on this heat map, and then briefly look up from your iTouch (or Google Glass? Is that next?) and say Happy Birthday. I'm sure that will mean just as much.

3) Little Mermaid–themed ride would feature an animatronic seagull who could interact with guests wearing the MagicBand.

Right...well, lets try to keep the Giant Potato working in the TSMM line first, eh?

4) "We want to take experiences that are more passive and make them as interactive as possible—moving from, ‘Cool, look at that talking bird,’ to ‘Wow, amazing, that bird is talking directly to me,’ " Imagineering chief creative executive Bruce Vaughn told the Times.

Wow...how...1960s Disneyland is that. It takes a mike and an actor. Otherwise, the stuff comes off canned. And, people who consume canned interactions through video games (like...kids) quickly learn that it is canned. "special interactions" which are even seen by the developers as environment, but are overused, even become memes. Take the famous "I took an arrow to the knee" phrase from Skyrim, meant merely to provide some personality and environment to the guard characters.

So, if you want truly unique interactions, even if it's behind an animatronic, there's still a person sitting behind the mic.

5) Meanwhile, the cost to redesign and integrate DisneyWorld.com with MyMagic+ soared to around $80 million.

Because you had people who don't understand IT and Systems trying to design IT and Systems, imho. They probably had teams upon teams just to deal with systems integrations, with teams upon teams of well certificated and educated "professionals" who had meetings upon meetings to discuss what, in essence, is really quite a simple set of transactions (compared to what they could be managing).

No, money was wasted on outsourcing, money was wasted on insourcing, and money was just generally tossed all around, when really this impact should have taken a front and center NOT during implementation, but during design.

6) Be Our Guest restaurant, inspired by the fairy-tale dining experience in Beauty and the Beast, launched to glowing reviews.

Because of the food and the venue. VERY few reviewers were talking about the FP+ capability or the preordering. Yes, it was a plus, but it was a plus because WDW is a park that needed new venues and experiences. NOT because you could "order online" and "reserve your meal".

No one says about a Disney Restaurant "well, the best thing about it was that I could make my reservation online"

7) Guests who preordered food online, or at a restaurant kiosk, could sit down and have their meal arrive automatically, thanks to sensors telling the waitstaff to deliver what food to what table.

I ran restaurants for 11 years, even worked in the corporate training dept for a fortune 500 chain, and all I can say is...this is making simple stuff complicated. I'll be shocked if the system sticks around. This is NOT the future. This is making the Guest feel like they are not worth your attention, while they pay top dollar for their meals.

Orlando is a fantastic test market. Did you know that McDonald's tested out their kiosk ordering systems there...nearly 15 years ago? I forget the location, but I could probably pinpoint it if I tried, cause I visited it, and was blown away. Wawa (a chain of Gas Stations/Dairy's in the NE) has been using kiosk pre-order systems for an equally long time. QT is now using them for QT kitchens. Tell me again how any of this is "new"? And, without getting into too much detail, there is a reason why they fad in and out of popularity.

8) As a former employee involved in Be Our Guest says, "It really didn’t go over well with the traditional IT org. It was like, ‘Wait, you’re going to actually have a successful launch of a project on time, on budget, as you promised? Even though our [technical] components, which were supposed to support the system, aren’t ready?’ "

Well, I hardly think an employee of the restaurant, nomatter the level, had any idea the scope and scale of what was being asked of IT. And, I increasingly get the feel they were blindsided and underfunded for it. And that, by people who think that the "genius bar" at the Apple Store is really staffed by "Geniuses" really understood their concerns, nor cared.

What most people forget about Walt is that he didn't just dictate from on high. He hired the best he could find, he pushed them to innovate, but he LISTENED. He said, hey, cinematographers, how can we make our project better, here's what I'd like to see, and let them run with it. He didn't say, Hey guys, I was talking to the boys over at my best friend I went to college with's firm and they said you should be doing it this way...oh, and why does my TV at home get a fuzzy picture? It really bothers me...if one of you could come over and figure that out I'd love it. Ok, I'm off to ski in the alps now!

Unlike many people think, IT is NOT LEFT BRAINED. It's a blend. It's an engineering art. And anyone who has done it, or any technology, really, or anything STEM, understands that. But, of course these people are not STEM majors, they are idiots.

Ugh, private gripe I'm gonna back off from again.

9) The carping weighed heavily on Nick Franklin. From the beginning of his tenure, he made efforts to generate goodwill and friendship among the various players, holding frequent team dinners so people who sources indicate didn't like each other could at least break bread and try to bridge their differences. During one feast on St. Patrick's Day, the team ate "deconstructed fisherman's pie" and "haute cuisine-style bangers and mash" paired with various Irish beers and whiskeys. "I made my team members know each other, and I mean, know who their kids are, where they grew up, and what they're passionate about," Franklin recalls. "Everybody on that team knew that John Padgett built his house himself, and that [technology SVP] Randy Brooks was a motorcycle guy who rode with his kids. That's what bridges the gap. At the end of the day, is going to get hard, and when you’re in the trenches, that’s the stuff that brings you back together."

While I appreciate, in a sense, the concept...No...just no. Howabout LISTENING TO THEIR CONCERNS AND TAKING THEM TO HEART?

10) "[Executives kept asking], ‘When is this going to be done?’ ‘Oh, in two months!’ ‘No, three months!’ It became this slog with one group going, ‘We’re ready and you’re not!’ And the other group going, ‘No, we’re ready, and you’re not!’ "

Pretty common in IT, and a dead giveaway that you have poor leadership (jeezus, I know exactly who I am sounding like now)...

Another snack....
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
I appreciated the article for adding more to the narrative. I have no doubt there are many, many problems with the system, but much of our insider narrative here originates from connections with the creatives, who clearly hated the project from the get-go. That doesn't mean the imagineers weren't right all along, but they had an agenda, and that gets happily spread.

We'll never know the true budget, but I have no doubt some of the hyperbole about it rests with ed off imagineers who didn't have their own projects approved. I would have rather the money be spent elsewhere too, but that's now in our past.

I find it funny that people are so up in arms that it didn't take a firm stance one way or another. It clearly wasn't a pure puff piece, it didn't declare the system an outright failure, but it did create purposeful conversation and let us make our own conclusions/more informed opinions.

Cheers, thanks @AustinC
 

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