My Love For Disney is Being Tested Today

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RustySpork

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We did the M&G for our kids...as an adult, I have zero desire to take pics with any character...but I have zero issues with anyone doing it though I have seen some pics where single male men do it with the female characters as a somewhat creepy hobby. For many, it's part of the Disney "fantasy" experience.

I hear that once you get groped by Donald, you'll long for the M&Gs. :hilarious:
 

RustySpork

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Generally good advice... BUT... when you see some greedy corporation driving a once-lovable brand into the ground via crass, cynical and just all-around-poor offerings... it's okay to speak up and say they've crossed the line.

Guests having the option to have a princess makeover doesn't fit into any of your listed categories though. If you had maybe complained about something that did, perhaps their underwhelming and overpriced dining options, or their watered down or now smaller size for more money per oz drinks at Epcot / F&W, the sub Motel 6 value resort experiences, or maybe even the broken Yeti, you may have been onto something.

This is none of those things, it's Disney giving guests something they obviously want.
 

Rich T

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Guests having the option to have a princess makeover doesn't fit into any of your listed categories though. If you had maybe complained about something that did, perhaps their underwhelming and overpriced dining options, or their watered down or now smaller size for more money per oz drinks at Epcot / F&W, the sub Motel 6 value resort experiences, or maybe even the broken Yeti, you may have been onto something.

This is none of those things, it's Disney giving guests something they obviously want.
Everything you mentioned is, of course, on my list. :) Here's my view of the overpriced princesstackification of innocent guests: 1) It's a terrible make-over. The guests are being ripped off. But more importantly.... 2) Just bad taste and poor management of the brand. Disney's driving the princess marketing into the ground. It's a thin, vague line, but they managed to cross it. They're--again--killing the golden goose and wringing out every guest dime for short-term profit at the cost of making their classic characters less special, less appealing (via overexposure, this is not a slam at the victi-- er, guests) and--in the long run--less valuable. In the long run, tacky, cynical offerings like this are bad for the brand. Somehow, Disney found a way to create the dress-up equivalent of mediocre direct-to-video sequels.
 
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Disney Irish

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Everything you mentioned is, of course, on my list. :) Here's my view of the overpriced princesstackification of innocent guests: 1) It's a terrible make-over. The guests are being ripped off. But more importantly.... 2) Just bad taste and poor management of the brand. Disney's driving the princess marketing into the ground. It's a thin, vague line, but thye managed to cross it. They're--again--killing the golden goose and wringing out every guest dime for short-term profit at the cost of making their classic characters less special, less appealing (via overexposure, this is not a slam at the victi-- er, guests) and--in the long run--less valuable. In the long run, tacky, cynical offerings like this are bad for the brand. Somehow, Disney found a way to create the dress-up equivalent of mediocre direct-to-video sequels.

1. Has it ever occurred to anyone that the lack of quality being complained about might be the exception more than the rule. And that the normal makeover doesn't look like this. But that to these ladies they don't care as they got to play princess dress-up as their favorite characters.
2. So if guests are asking for these makeover should Disney say no to their guests willing to pay money for such a service? In the end if the guest is happy with the result isn't that really promoting the brand rather than diminishing it. Meaning that the brand is stronger because the guest will have long lasting memories of their time playing dress-up, which will lead to a long lasting relationship with the brand which creates a more valuable brand.
 

Mr Ferret 75

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1. Has it ever occurred to anyone that the lack of quality being complained about might be the exception more than the rule. And that the normal makeover doesn't look like this. But that to these ladies they don't care as they got to play princess dress-up as their favorite characters.
2. So if guests are asking for these makeover should Disney say no to their guests willing to pay money for such a service? In the end if the guest is happy with the result isn't that really promoting the brand rather than diminishing it. Meaning that the brand is stronger because the guest will have long lasting memories of their time playing dress-up, which will lead to a long lasting relationship with the brand which creates a more valuable brand.
Nope.
It's bad cause the OP doesn't like it.
 

Phroobar

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If guests are asking for make overs, Disney should scorn the guests and tell them to grow up.
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Rich T

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1. Has it ever occurred to anyone that the lack of quality being complained about might be the exception more than the rule. And that the normal makeover doesn't look like this.
Okay, so you do agree it looks bad (except for the Jasmine makeover). And, again, we're talking make-over, not the guests themselves (for anyone reading this out of context).
Meaning that the brand is stronger because the guest will have long lasting memories of their time playing dress-up, which will lead to a long lasting relationship with the brand which creates a more valuable brand.
Yeah, but if a horrible makeover is parading around the parks, it's doing more harm than good amongst the other guests staring with mouths agape. (Again, the women all looked great pre-makeover).

And...Disney Irish Bruh, I haven't forgotten you already won another angle of this argument with me. :D
 

RustySpork

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They... aren't... kids...
And again, it's not the "fun." It's the lousy product the guests paid way too much for and a greedy corporation that thinks it can pawn off any poorly done concept as ******Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggiiiiiiiiiiiccccccccccccccccccccccccc************.

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