My apologies to the entire board

[crazy4disney]

Just out of curiosity, who determines if something is nonsense or is asinine, such that another person deserves to be “called out” as you say?

Apparently the same people who decide what is allowed on twitter and other social media platforms along with the “fact checkers”

 

[Chi84]

Just out of curiosity, who determines if something is nonsense or is asinine, such that another person deserves to be “called out” as you say?

Actually, I have seen instances where someone clearly trolling posts dishonest information or flat-out lies that could mislead inexperienced park goers. There was one guy who consistently posted things like servers never ask about the ages of kids entering the parks or at buffets, you could add as many people as you like at the restaurant podium, guards at resorts let anyone park there without checking dining reservations, etc. He ended everything with "Disney doesn't care."

If I see that kind of thing, I'll usually just say something like that's not most people's experience or (in extreme cases) to remember this is the internet where anyone can say anything without consequence. If it's just rudeness, it's best to let it pass without comment.

 

[JusticeDisney]

Actually, I have seen instances where someone clearly trolling posts dishonest information or flat-out lies that could mislead inexperienced park goers. There was one guy who consistently posted things like servers never ask about the ages of kids entering the parks or at buffets, you could add as many people as you like at the restaurant podium, guards at resorts let anyone park there without checking dining reservations, etc. He ended everything with "Disney doesn't care."

If I see that kind of thing, I'll usually just say something like that's not most people's experience or (in extreme cases) to remember this is the internet where anyone can say anything without consequence. If it's just rudeness, it's best to let it pass without comment.

Really good points, I totally agree.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

But there are times, select times, when one needs to be called out due to sheer asinine and/or dishonest postings. Posting nonsense should not be rewarded with silence. The dishonesty usually comes in the shape of extreme bias/partisan.

Just out of curiosity, who determines if something is nonsense or is asinine, such that another person deserves to be “called out” as you say?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Actually, I have seen instances where someone clearly trolling posts dishonest information or flat-out lies that could mislead inexperienced park goers. There was one guy who consistently posted things like servers never ask about the ages of kids entering the parks or at buffets, you could add as many people as you like at the restaurant podium, guards at resorts let anyone park there without checking dining reservations, etc. He ended everything with "Disney doesn't care."

If I see that kind of thing, I'll usually just say something like that's not most people's experience or (in extreme cases) to remember this is the internet where anyone can say anything without consequence. If it's just rudeness, it's best to let it pass without comment.

…you mean I’ve been overpaying and coulda parked at beach club this whole time?!?

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Actually, I have seen instances where someone clearly trolling posts dishonest information or flat-out lies that could mislead inexperienced park goers. There was one guy who consistently posted things like servers never ask about the ages of kids entering the parks or at buffets, you could add as many people as you like at the restaurant podium, guards at resorts let anyone park there without checking dining reservations, etc. He ended everything with "Disney doesn't care."

I'm not sure why you feel the above are examples of outright lies.

A few years back, probably 2018, we met up with friends in the park. They asked if they could join us for dinner. I asked the hotel concierge for help in modifying the ADR. In short, this is exactly what the concierge TOLD us (to do).

What happened to us happens to other people at WDW every day. So YES, you can add people to your ADR, and the way to do it is to list your party size when you arrive at the podium. I imagine there are some exceptions, but the podium hosts field questions like this all day. It isn't rude to ask, nor do the hosts get upset over it.

A VERY good reason to NOT do this though is that we were seated very late. Instead of 7:15pm, we were seated more like 8:30pm. That's the trade-off. By the time we were seated, it was well past the time most people eat dinner.

It is a similar situation at the hotel guard posts. Most of the time they will happily wave you through. Generally speaking, if you want to dine at a value, mod hotel or most DVC's, you can. You do not need an ADR. The deluxe hotels are the places that will sometimes turn you away. Disney doesn't want people to park at the monorail resorts to visit MK, nor do they want people to park at Bwk/BC/YC while they visit Epcot/HS. That's all. I just did this at the Boardwalk a few months ago. We asked if we could park to pick up food from the new deli, and the guard said we were fine. In short, he did not care.

The purpose of these forums is not to police each other over the way we think WDW should be run, IMO. Our purpose is to provide each other with helpful information. At least, that is what I try to do. Disney is complicated, and even after many visits, I often have questions like two examples above.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm not sure why you feel the above are examples of outright lies.

A few years back, probably 2018, we met up with friends in the park. They asked if they could join us for dinner. I asked the hotel concierge for help in modifying the ADR. In short, this is exactly what the concierge TOLD us (to do).

What happened to us happens to other people at WDW every day. So YES, you can add people to your ADR, and the way to do it is to list your party size when you arrive at the podium. I imagine there are some exceptions, but the podium hosts field questions like this all day. It isn't rude to ask, nor do the hosts get upset over it.

A VERY good reason to NOT do this though is that we were seated very late. Instead of 7:15pm, we were seated more like 8:30pm. That's the trade-off. By the time we were seated, it was well past the time most people eat dinner.

It is a similar situation at the hotel guard posts. Most of the time they will happily wave you through. Generally speaking, if you want to dine at a value, mod hotel or most DVC's, you can. You do not need an ADR. The deluxe hotels are the places that will sometimes turn you away. Disney doesn't want people to park at the monorail resorts to visit MK, nor do they want people to park at Bwk/BC/YC while they visit Epcot/HS. That's all. I just did this at the Boardwalk a few months ago. We asked if we could park to pick up food from the new deli, and the guard said we were fine. In short, he did not care.

The purpose of these forums is not to police each other over the way we think WDW should be run, IMO. Our purpose is to provide each other with helpful information. At least, that is what I try to do. Disney is complicated, and even after many visits, I often have questions like two examples above.

That specific isn’t rare. They’ll let you change parties if at all possible

I would say “outright lies” is stating that polices aren’t followed.

Security has always bothered me. They’ve been strict for about 20 years…at least since hard dining…and you can NOT park where you want.

I cringe when people do that…you’re causing angst for someone down the road who probably isn’t as experienced/savvy

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

…you mean I’ve been overpaying and coulda parked at beach club this whole time?!?

Why the snark?

Disney's parking policy is murky.

If you are an onsite hotel guest, you generally are allowed to park anywhere on WDW property, including the hotels.

 

[Goofyernmost]

The purpose of these forums is not to police each other over the way we think WDW should be run, IMO. Our purpose is to provide each other with helpful information. At least, that is what I try to do. Disney is complicated, and even after many visits, I often have questions like two examples above.

There are always ways to circumvent the system. That doesn't mean that one should. If you runs into a lazy CM that "doesn't care" there are many things that one can get away with. The question is should you follow the rules, designed to be fair to everyone or should you take the chance that it could blow up in your face and cost you a lot of time and money to correct. Some rules are indeed stupid, but then we need to make it known to Disney that they are stupid, but rules that are fair to those that follow the rules should not be tested, in my opinion.

 

[Chi84]

I'm not sure why you feel the above are examples of outright lies.

A few years back, probably 2018, we met up with friends in the park. They asked if they could join us for dinner. I asked the hotel concierge for help in modifying the ADR. In short, this is exactly what the concierge TOLD us (to do).

What happened to us happens to other people at WDW every day. So YES, you can add people to your ADR, and the way to do it is to list your party size when you arrive at the podium. I imagine there are some exceptions, but the podium hosts field questions like this all day. It isn't rude to ask, nor do the hosts get upset over it.

A VERY good reason to NOT do this though is that we were seated very late. Instead of 7:15pm, we were seated more like 8:30pm. That's the trade-off. By the time we were seated, it was well past the time most people eat dinner.

It is a similar situation at the hotel guard posts. Most of the time they will happily wave you through. Generally speaking, if you want to dine at a value, mod hotel or most DVC's, you can. You do not need an ADR. The deluxe hotels are the places that will sometimes turn you away. Disney doesn't want people to park at the monorail resorts to visit MK, nor do they want people to park at Bwk/BC/YC while they visit Epcot/HS. That's all. I just did this at the Boardwalk a few months ago. We asked if we could park to pick up food from the new deli, and the guard said we were fine. In short, he did not care.

The purpose of these forums is not to police each other over the way we think WDW should be run, IMO. Our purpose is to provide each other with helpful information. At least, that is what I try to do. Disney is complicated, and even after many visits, I often have questions like two examples above.

The person I was referencing said Disney doesn’t care about the ages of children eating at buffets or entering the parks, that security at hotels never asks the purpose of people visiting any resort and that it was never an issue adding as many people as you like. He said “Disney doesn’t care” about those things, not that they would never try to accommodate.

It’s misleading to other posters to say Disney never follows its own policies.

 

[Br0ckford]

I'm not sure why you feel the above are examples of outright lies.

A few years back, probably 2018, we met up with friends in the park. They asked if they could join us for dinner. I asked the hotel concierge for help in modifying the ADR. In short, this is exactly what the concierge TOLD us (to do).

This is very different then telling someone they can just walk right in with several extra people and no one cares. You asked for an accommodation and they provided that.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

…and you can NOT park where you want.

I cringe when people do that…you’re causing angst for someone down the road who probably isn’t as experienced/savvy

Huh? I'm confused.

What makes you cringe?

Generally speaking, if you are staying at a WDW hotel, you are allowed day parking anywhere on property, like to eat lunch.

Generally speaking, the value and moderate hotels have ample parking spaces that normally go unused, except maybe the hotels that are now connected via the Skyline.

Guests cannot park at the hotels to get around paying the theme park parking fee. If someone shows up at CBR half an hour before HS opens, no ADR, the guards will probably, rightly, turn them away. WDW is especially strict about parking at the Contemporary.

Guests are also not allowed to park overnight, except at the hotel where they are staying.

 

[crazy4disney]

Why the snark?

Disney's parking policy is murky.

If you are an onsite hotel guest, you generally are allowed to park anywhere on WDW property, including the hotels.

Thats really not true... If you do not have a dining reservation good luck parking at a monorail resort by saying you want to check the hotel out etc... they will most likely tell you to park at MK & take monorail especially now that they check you magic bands etc... you may have a shot if you truly have no park reservations for MK and no genie rides booked that they may allow you in but good luck otherwise,,,, with that being said if you do have them and you drive to one of the resorts they never tell you that you have to leave after eating etc so basically noone is going to move their car after eating whether they know their suppose to or not....

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Huh? I'm confused.

What makes you cringe?

Generally speaking, if you are staying at a WDW hotel, you are allowed day parking anywhere on property, like to eat lunch.

Generally speaking, the value and moderate hotels have ample parking spaces that normally go unused, except maybe the hotels that are now connected via the Skyline.

Guests cannot park at the hotels to get around paying the theme park parking fee. If someone shows up at CBR half an hour before HS opens, no ADR, the guards will probably, rightly, turn them away. WDW is especially strict about parking at the Contemporary.

Guests are also not allowed to park overnight, except at the hotel where they are staying.

Nope no no…

Most of the guards turn you away at the prime parking spots. They’ll allow you to go if you have a dining reservation

The old “I’m going to beaches and cream” ended as a go to long ago.

Doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen…but do NOT recommend that to strangers. Follow the procedures to not mess with their fun.

It’s irresponsible

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Why the snark?

Disney's parking policy is murky.

If you are an onsite hotel guest, you generally are allowed to park anywhere on WDW property, including the hotels.

Tis not…see above

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

There are always ways to circumvent the system. That doesn't mean that one should. If you runs into a lazy CM that "doesn't care" there are many things that one can get away with. The question is should you follow the rules, designed to be fair to everyone or should you take the chance that it could blow up in your face and cost you a lot of time and money to correct. Some rules are indeed stupid, but then we need to make it known to Disney that they are stupid, but rules that are fair to those that follow the rules should not be tested, in my opinion.

Huh?

I am sharing WDW's official policies.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Thats really not true... If you do not have a dining reservation good luck parking at a monorail resort by saying you want to check the hotel out etc... they will most likely tell you to park at MK & take monorail especially now that they check you magic bands etc... you may have a shot if you truly have no park reservations for MK and no genie rides booked that they may allow you in but good luck otherwise,,,, with that being said if you do have them and you drive to one of the resorts they never tell you that you have to leave after eating etc so basically noone is going to move their car after eating whether they know their suppose to or not....

Monorail, wilderness, yacht, beach and boardwalk…

Your chance of being rejected is a minimum 50%.

I feel like I’m in a time warp here…

Is Eisner still in charge?!?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Huh?

I am sharing WDW's official policies.

There is no official policy for the gift shop and Captain cooks.

I bet…in the fine print…it says that parking is for “the exclusive use of guests of the Polynesian village resort and villas”…especially since the parking fees went into effect.

What you’re doing is stating the historical “precedent”…and that was a different time with way less people on property.

Best to err on the side of caution and not recommend it.

 

[crazy4disney]

Monorail, wilderness, yacht, beach and boardwalk…

Your chance of being rejected is a minimum 50%.

I feel like I’m in a time warp here…

Is Eisner still in charge?!?

I have the over 50% lol. Every time we went to eat. Even at Cape May they had the signs out saying that only resort guests and those with reservations are allowed etc etc etc…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I have the over 50% lol. Every time we went to eat. Even at Cape May they had the signs out saying that only resort guests and those with reservations are allowed etc etc etc…

Correct…those signs are the “official policy”

It used to be “we regret we cannot provide parking for Epcot”

That was 20 years ago…I think it’s more like “no ressie…don’t try it” now.

This is surreal.