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More WDI Layoffs Planned?
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GeneralKnowledge
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Ok, I have avoided getting into this debate for awhile now but I just want to put in my two cents.
Imagineering is what sets Disney's parks apart from its competitors. The department continues to prove that it is the only group that can truly create a totally immersive ride. Look at any other park out there. The themeing and technological originality that Disney has is not there. Look at Dueling Dragons, just as a random example, the queue is well themed but in the end it just comes out into a standard suspended roller coaster. Right now you would neveer find a roller coaster on Disney property that has an exposed, unthemed support structure like that.(Except Primevil Whirl) In the future, without Imagineerings vision and standards, you could see something like that on Disney property.
If Disney goes over to fully outsourcing their projects to outside firms, the originality and quality Disney is known for willl go by the wayside.
Disney would probably be able to keep attendance up for a while simply because of their name and reputation, but as things deteriorate over time and off the shelf attractions are put in instead of original designs, people will begin to see that they can find the same things elsewhere.
Now I don't know exactly what is going on regarding the layoffs. What I do know is that without a fully functional, well funded Imagineering department, the quality Disney Parks are known for will slowly disappear, putting the entire company in jeapordy since they rely on the parks for a very large percentage of their revenue.
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Imagineering is what sets Disney's parks apart from its competitors. The department continues to prove that it is the only group that can truly create a totally immersive ride. Look at any other park out there. The themeing and technological originality that Disney has is not there. Look at Dueling Dragons, just as a random example, the queue is well themed but in the end it just comes out into a standard suspended roller coaster. Right now you would neveer find a roller coaster on Disney property that has an exposed, unthemed support structure like that.(Except Primevil Whirl) In the future, without Imagineerings vision and standards, you could see something like that on Disney property.
If Disney goes over to fully outsourcing their projects to outside firms, the originality and quality Disney is known for willl go by the wayside.
Disney would probably be able to keep attendance up for a while simply because of their name and reputation, but as things deteriorate over time and off the shelf attractions are put in instead of original designs, people will begin to see that they can find the same things elsewhere.
Now I don't know exactly what is going on regarding the layoffs. What I do know is that without a fully functional, well funded Imagineering department, the quality Disney Parks are known for will slowly disappear, putting the entire company in jeapordy since they rely on the parks for a very large percentage of their revenue.
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imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
speck76 said:
You are being very rude today! What's your problem?!
wannab@dis
Well-Known Member
DisRussFIT said:
According to your "join date", you've not been around for a long time to see that this type of thread comes up several times a year. Go back 2, 3, or 4 years and you'll see that they have always been a source of doom and gloom for the company. And yet, wonderful new attractions are still being built.
Outsourcing of artisan and labor sections of Imagineering is fine and will save money for the company. The "quality" of the attractions do not come from the individuals doing the work, but the team that coordinates and manages the project. Therefore, good project management, even with a smaller budget, can still create magical attractions.
Now, maybe someone can say for sure, but I'm fairly positive that "ex-imagineers" worked on the Dueling Dragons. hmmmm....
wannab@dis
Well-Known Member
imagineer boy said:
When you make statements like 'grizz should be in charge' or 'grizz only wants what's best for the company' then you can expect someone to counter your opinion.
Speck is right... Disney would go crumble faster than Horizons with Grizz in charge.
imagineer boy
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wannab@dis said:
Well he didn't need to be so effing rude about it. I'm posting my opinion, and you are speck are accusing me of being high! You could simply say "IMHO, Grizz wouldn't be my choice for CEO," and I'd be cool with that. No need to attack me viciously.
Woody13
New Member
:lol: :lol:speck76 said:
Excellent points!wannab@dis said:
My point exactly! Thanks, I forgot to include Wes Palm.MrNonacho said:
Yes I agree.mousermerf said:
You're on a roll!mousermerf said:
And I am proud to have been a small part of it. Lots of good thoughts have been expressed in this thread. I'm impressed with many of the ideas and opinions expressed here. I learn a lot from the exchange of ideas and information that takes place. We've got a lot of very intelligent members!marni1971 said:
GeneralKnowledge
Well-Known Member
wannab@dis said:
My join date has nothing to do with this. Just because I haven't been posting on this board doesn't mean I haven't been watching the company closely since the early 90's.
Now I don't disagree with you about the outsourcing of artisan and labor sections. As long as they are stilll using quality workers who are being managed by qualified Imagineers there isn't a problem. I still think that without an in house department of people who design and develop an attraction and its story to the standards previously upheld by the people in Imagineering such as Sklar, Baxter, Hench, etc, the parks will fail to uphold their top notch rank in the theme park heiarchy.
From what I've heard, it sounds like the people who are being laid off are the people who are more likely to concentrate on the quality of their attractions and consequently have a higher salary.
If they don't have a quality team designing their attractions, the parks will eventually fail. For example, i forget which company came out with it, but the new robocoaster technology that just came out has the potential to become the new standard ride vehicle for dark rides because of its ability to move so freely. Without a department of people to customize this technology into a quality attraction, WDW would end up with the same ride as Knights' Tournament at Legoland California. (http://www.lego.com/legoland/california/Default.asp?locale=2057)
Thats all I have to say about WDI layoffs, artisans and general laborers should be outsourced, but not the design and development people. Without them, Disney would not be Disney.
cherrynegra
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Corrus said:It's true... I'm one of them... But in my case I'm leaving voluntarily... I made them an offer they couldn't refuse... they settled...
Hope it all works out for the best Corrus!! :wave:
Tim G
Well-Known Member
BTW... Tthe "Mouse House" is certainly NOT falling apart...
The Lay-offs are not that big... Most of them settle... and retire like me...
And I agree with them that some are "stuck" in the past... they need "new" visionairs...
The major reason for me is "Mr. Disney" being back on the board...
and it will start all over again... nag, nag, nag...
I still hold my reasonable amount of shares.. but never in favor of Roy...
The Lay-offs are not that big... Most of them settle... and retire like me...
And I agree with them that some are "stuck" in the past... they need "new" visionairs...
The major reason for me is "Mr. Disney" being back on the board...
and it will start all over again... nag, nag, nag...
I still hold my reasonable amount of shares.. but never in favor of Roy...
Tim G
Well-Known Member
Well... Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose... (just kidding)cherrynegra said:
I'm 55 and it's time for a change... Finally I can walk around in all the parks, the way I want... They granted me my ID card for 5 years...
And financially I'm not complaining... and I won't miss my visits to china and japan... but they tightened my NDA...
Dayma
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Corrus said:
Thanks for the good words Corrus!
I feel that sometimes when on these boards we have a tendency to blow things slightly out of porportion. This is OK as this is what we are here to discuss but it's nice to have "insiders" like Corrus get us back on track with hard facts...
cherrynegra
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Corrus said:
Although we loved your pic reports from your trips abroad, I think the people who will be most grateful you won't be taking trips abroad is your family. Kinda tough to be gone for long periods of time I would imagine. I'm just happy that this was a decision you made and that you come out the winner in the end!!