More "after hours" hard ticket dates

[CaptainAmerica]

I think most do, but I also think most notice when the same product they buy every year increases substantially in price.....

My car insurance premium went up $25 for the exact same coverage I bought six months ago. Sucks for me. Life goes on.

 

[kong1802]

True, I just look at it like it actually balances out, because a lot of the night time event people won’t use a ticket during most of the day as well. So it takes away crowds in those hours.



Of course people notice it. I’m taking a cruise the same week as I did last year.. priced 3 itineraries, all of them are within $200 of each other.. and all are nearly $1000 more than last year between higher rates, higher gratuities, and higher restaurant prices. Even the exact same ship and itinerary that I took in 2017.

So I could cry over spilled milk.. or I just decide to go or not go.

Do you see what I’m saying at all? Last year’s price is not this year’s price in anything that you buy.. the only thing left to do is determine if you still WANT to do it. That’s it, that’s all that matters in the end.
If you Don’t Want to do it- again thats ok too!

Make decisions that are best for you, but understand that a business is a business, and they will keep raising prices as long as their product is in demand. It is not an Evil Attack on you, it’s not something that they Take Away from You.. pricing/events/hours is their decisions to make, and theirs alone. They do not owe you the past.

So you did notice the increase in price. That's comforting on some level....

I'm guessing that the increase in price factored into your decision making, since you pointed it out. So again, you are doing the same thing as I'm doing....

For the record, we have AP's. We just got back from another trip last weekend. We certainly aren't "crying" over here..just pointing out a trend. The same as you did with your cruise.

That's news to me about a "business".....I always thought that was a made up term. Is WDW the only one?

 

[DryerLintFan]

True, I just look at it like it actually balances out, because a lot of the night time event people won’t use a ticket during most of the day as well. So it takes away crowds in those hours.



Of course people notice it. I’m taking a cruise the same week as I did last year.. priced 3 itineraries, all of them are within $200 of each other.. and all are nearly $1000 more than last year between higher rates, higher gratuities, and higher restaurant prices. Even the exact same ship and itinerary that I took in 2017.

So I could cry over spilled milk.. or I just decide to go or not go.

Do you see what I’m saying at all? Last year’s price is not this year’s price in anything that you buy.. the only thing left to do is determine if you still WANT to do it. That’s it, that’s all that matters in the end.
If you Don’t Want to do it- again thats ok too!

Make decisions that are best for you, but understand that a business is a business, and they will keep raising prices as long as their product is in demand. It is not an Evil Attack on you, it’s not something that they Take Away from You.. pricing/events/hours is their decisions to make, and theirs alone. They do not owe you the past.

Sure, but not everyone plans park commando days. When I plan my trip I plan either a morning in MK or an evening. Not both. So if I only planned an evening in MK and that date now has the hard ticket event, it severely impacts my plans. If I only planned a morning in MK it would actually help me so it would have a positive impact. Point being, it has an impact either way.

 

[kong1802]

My car insurance premium went up $25 for the exact same coverage I bought six months ago. Sucks for me. Life goes on.

At least you got the exact same coverage.

Not one with decreased value.....

Did they try to sell you what you used to get for more?

 

[21stamps]

So you did notice the increase in price. That's comforting on some level....

I'm guessing that the increase in price factored into your decision making, since you pointed it out. So again, you are doing the same thing as I'm doing....

For the record, we have AP's. We just got back from another trip last weekend. We certainly aren't "crying" over here..just pointing out a trend. The same as you did with your cruise.

That's news to me about a "business".....I always thought that was a made up term. Is WDW the only one?

Of course I notice price increases.. i don’t like them, but I definitely don’t view them as a personal offense against me or taking something away from me that I was owed.

I feel like people look at Disney as if Disney owes them something, it doesn’t make sense to me. You (General) are creating your own stress on that subject. If the hours have been posted at 10pm closing, they aren’t harming anyone by offering an extra even after park closing. It doesn’t matter what happened in prior years. You’re assuming instead of reading in black and white.

 

[GhostHost1000]

That will never happen. The resort will return to swamp before that happens. There are so many guests out there who will legit pay Disney any amount of money, for anything the mouse can come up with to offer. @George has a good example of Disney offering to dump a steaming bucket of excrement on you, for a hefty price, and people will pay it. And you know what, I think he's right.

that's kinda how I feel with some of the apple fans too... place an apple logo on a cow pie and someone will pay top dollar LOL! same goes for mickey I guess

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Did they try to sell you what you used to get for more?

Disney could reduce operating hours to 10:00 AM to 11:00 AM, close all attractions except for Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor, and charge $6,000 per day for admission and it wouldn't be the fault of anyone but those willing to pay it.

 

[kong1802]

Disney could reduce operating hours to 10:00 AM to 11:00 AM, close all attractions except for Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor, and charge $6,000 per day for admission and it wouldn't be the fault of anyone but those willing to pay it.

You're doing it!

 

[21stamps]

Sure, but not everyone plans park commando days. When I plan my trip I plan either a morning in MK or an evening. Not both. So if I only planned an evening in MK and that date now has the hard ticket event, it severely impacts my plans. If I only planned a morning in MK it would actually help me so it would have a positive impact. Point being, it has an impact either way.

That’s your personal choice though. You have the schedule in front of you, and you make/adjust your plans accordingly given the info that you have. They post operating hours/extra events, we plan within them according to our preferences.

2017, Was it ideal that I realized I booked 2 nights where both were MVMCP, Nope, not at all. But it can’t ruin my plans.. I have the ability to plan the day around it, based on the info that I have. They didn’t take something from me. Everyone else who will be in MK during any of these After Hours has that exact same ability.

 

[DryerLintFan]

That’s your personal choice though. You have the schedule in front of you, and you make your plans accordingly. They post operating hours, we plan within them according to our preferences.

2017, Was it ideal that I realized I booked 2 nights where both were MVMCP, Nope, not at all. But it can’t ruin my plans.. I have the ability to plan the day around it, based on the info that I have. They didn’t take something from me. Everyone else who will be in MK during any of these After Hours has that exact same ability.

While I agree with your statements,... you did ask WHAT was the curve ball. That's the curve ball. How the people plan around it is a whole different subject.

 

[kong1802]

Of course I notice price increases.. i don’t like them, but I definitely don’t view them as a personal offense against me or taking something away from me that I was owed.

I feel like people look at Disney as if Disney owes them something, it doesn’t make sense to me. You (General) are creating your own stress on that subject. If the hours have been posted at 10pm closing, they aren’t harming anyone by offering an extra even after park closing. It doesn’t matter what happened in prior years. You’re assuming instead of reading in black and white.

I don't view them as a personal offense either.

But I am curious as to why hours are reduced while costs and crowds have increased.

It's ok to question a "business", at least I think, since I just learned about their existence and all...

It's also ok to notice and point out (at least I think, you'll have to correct me business expert), when you were once given something as part of a cost, and now are asked to pay a separate cost for it. Again, perhaps this is out of bounds to do with this "business" as you call it.....

 

[xdan0920]

Disney could reduce operating hours to 10:00 AM to 11:00 AM, close all attractions except for Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor, and charge $6,000 per day for admission and it wouldn't be the fault of anyone but those willing to pay it.

Don’t think we should completely absolve corporations from any and all responsibilities.

 

[21stamps]

Why I agree with your statements,... you did ask WHAT was the curve ball. That's the curve ball. How the people plan around it is a whole different subject.

I know, it just goes back to the “owed” something that I think people are upset over. Having an after hours event take place the same day as someone’s MK day really isn’t a curveball, nothing has changed from what was published, the operating hours are the same. There’s no way to know how many of those people would have held daytime tickets instead of event tickets.. so there’s no way to say that crowds are now going to be worse in the evening that what they would have been otherwise.

 

[kong1802]

Don’t think we should completely absolve corporations from any and all responsibilities.

Good point...

They bought lead paint, it's their fault.....

 

[kong1802]

I know, it just goes back to the “owed” something that I think people are upset over. Having a after hours event take place the same day as someone’s MK day really isn’t a curveball, nothing has changed from what was published, the operating hours are the same. There’s no way to know how many of those people would have held daytime tickets instead of event tickets.. so there’s no way to say that crowds are now going to be worse in the evening that what they would have been otherwise.

To be honest, I think you are projecting a little bit when you keep stating this "owed" something thought. I'll have to scan back through, but I haven't seen that posted.....You are building an argument based on something that hasn't been said here. Is there a term for that?

 

[Biff215]

Wut? You think Disney only has projections out 60 days in advance? Disney has projections from now until 2027 at an absolute minimum.

Projections are much more accurate (reportedly) with FP+. That’s when park hours typically get extended, especially inside 30 days.

 

[21stamps]

I don't view them as a personal offense either.

But I am curious as to why hours are reduced while costs and crowds have increased.

It's ok to question a "business", at least I think, since I just learned about their existence and all...

It's also ok to notice and point out (at least I think, you'll have to correct me business expert), when you were once given something as part of a cost, and now are asked to pay a separate cost for it. Again, perhaps this is out of bounds to do with this "business" as you call it.....

It’s simple- The demand is there.

Parks across the country have been reducing their nighttime hours for the past few years, some have always closed early. So, that should tell you that cost of operations vs profit during those hours is most likely uneven. Now, A limited time event exists for those who want it.. and appears to be a successful and well reviewed event.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Don’t think we should completely absolve corporations from any and all responsibilities.

A theme park company has no responsibilities when it comes to pricing. It's 100% a frivolous expenditure.

To be honest, I think you are projecting a little bit when you keep stating this "owed" something thought. I'll have to scan back through, but I haven't seen that posted.....You are building an argument based on something that hasn't been said here. Is there a term for that?

You (and others) keep talking about how things were in past years with regard to what was offered and what was charged. No, you didn't use the word "owed," but everything you said indicated that paying a certain price for a certain product somehow entitles you to get the same product for the same price for as long as you want it.

 

[21stamps]

To be honest, I think you are projecting a little bit when you keep stating this "owed" something thought. I'll have to scan back through, but I haven't seen that posted.....You are building an argument based on something that hasn't been said here. Is there a term for that?

You keep saying that they “took away” which would mean that they owe you more.. and now have reduced it, Or am I misunderstanding the “took away” part?

 

[21stamps]

A theme park company has no responsibilities when it comes to pricing. It's 100% a frivolous expenditure.


You (and others) keep talking about how things were in past years with regard to what was offered and what was charged. No, you didn't use the word "owed," but everything you said indicated that paying a certain price for a certain product somehow entitles you to get the same product for the same price for as long as you want it.

I knew I liked you, especially for your logical thinking.