News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Jrb1979]

I agree with this assessment. I think it is pretty likely they have a few "land" ideas on the table and it is just figuring out which ones to use, and where they go. Monster's at Muppets courtyard is likely the cheapest and easiest to do while still "fitting" relatively well.

That is why I have said I am reserving final judgement on this until AC change is clear, which I know many on this site seem skeptical will happen any time soon but I disagree.

I also think this forum way overestimates how many people are upset about this. The majority of average Disney fans will likely be perfectly happy with this once it is all said and done. Assuming the Door Coaster is a fun attraction.

That's exactly it. Outside of people here, most of your average guest doesn't care about the Muppets or nostalgia of the parks. They want IP they know and new attractions.

 

[GoofGoof]

Alternatively, just rebuild MuppetVision in the Sunset Showcase and say they're making the "first ever true Muppets land". If the choices are no MuppetVision or MuppetVision on the other side of the park, I'd take that. As nostalgic as Muppets Courtyard is, it's been neutered for years, so I'd rather a fresh build that can go full Muppet mayhem.


That's fair. I suppose it's better to save the AC for something big, though I really hope it's something original. Another clone land would be super disappointing, DHS desperately needs more unique offerings- I believe right now the only exclusive attractions are MuppetVision, Rock n Rollercoaster, and Tower of Terror?

The 2 rumors I’ve heard are Zootopia and Simpsons (once Universal contract expires). Zootopia exists in Shanghai but would be unique in North America. Simpsons would be unique but would be constantly compared to Universal version. It wouldn’t be hard to beat out the rides but Universal has a pretty good land overall.

 

[Horizons '83]

That's exactly it. Outside of people here, most of your average guest doesn't care about the Muppets or nostalgia of the parks. They want IP they know and new attractions.

Doesn't make them right

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

That's my feeling. I would rather Monster's go into the smaller space and save AC for something a bit more, even if it means we have to wait a little longer. It seems like the Monsters land was always mostly about the Door Coaster with everything else being minor (playground, a show). I'd rather that go in Grand Avenue's smaller usable space than AC.

I agree about it not being a clone land. I saw someone on here have a Superhero Courtyard idea (Incredibles, Big Hero Six, and maby Dr Strange if they could use him). I'd like something like that. But just something original would be great. Hollywood needs its version of Carsland and Toy Story just ain't at that level.

I agree on your Muppets idea. I just think it is a longshot. But I think a little Muppets miniland would be a good use.

A Superhero Courtyard is a great idea, committing to one IP could lead to issues when that IP becomes unpopular (which tbqh I think a Zootopia land would age very quickly), but making it a genre land like Fantasyland or Frontierland would allow for attractions to come and go without needing to retheme the entire land.

Superhero Courtyard with a Big Hero 6 coaster, Incredibles stage show and Dr Strange dark ride? I'm all for it.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

The 2 rumors I’ve heard are Zootopia and Simpsons (once Universal contract expires). Zootopia exists in Shanghai but would be unique in North America. Simpsons would be unique but would be constantly compared to Universal version. It wouldn’t be hard to beat out the rides but Universal has a pretty good land overall.

I think it'd be super easy to beat Universal if they just put more of an emphasis on recreating the show's world. I'm against Zootopia because personally I don't think that IP has proven its staying power. It's only 9 years old, unlike the Simpsons which have long proven they'll be relevant for a long time. If Zootopia is no longer popular in a decade, then you have a much more expensive problem to fix.

 

[JackCH]

Simpsons just doesn't excite me even a little bit. But not all IP is for everyone lol.

I agree on Zootopia not being a safe long-term bet.

 

[BrianLo]

And again I ask - have any of the great insiders on these boards mentioned anything about the Muppet replacement show?

Rather than assuming it isn’t happening (since it’s currently baked into a pre-existing theatre that is already built and fronts the new land); my assumption is it’s going to be more of an overlay. Reused infrastructure. Statler and Waldorf being turned into Roz, etc. etc.

Basically just new MV3D, which by no means guarantees it is good. But since they are basically doing the same thing with Bugs to Zootopia, I see this being in that clear lineage.

I also strongly agree with you that it is not fully baked yet. But an attraction like this wouldn’t typically be that baked until 18-24 months prior to opening. Like Zootopia.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

I think it's worth noting to that the Parks blog says "film" as opposed to "show" that distinction might be trivial, but I doubt it. A film you preserve. The other elements make up the remainder of the show.

 

[Unbanshee]

I think it's worth noting to that the Parks blog says "film" as opposed to "show" that distinction might be trivial, but I doubt it. A film you preserve. The other elements make up the remainder of the show.

"As we move forward with these changes, we are having creative conversations and exploring ways to preserve the film and other parts of the experience for fans to enjoy in the future."

..."and other parts of the experience" would likely mean more than just the film

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

"As we move forward with these changes, we are having creative conversations and exploring ways to preserve the film and other parts of the experience for fans to enjoy in the future."

..."and other parts of the experience" would likely mean more than just the film

why the separation between the two?

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

why the separation between the two?

I'd assume they said it like that so if they end up just slapping it on Disney+ they can say that's what they meant, and if they move the show somewhere else, then they can say that's what the plan was too. Be vague so any outcome looks intentional.

 

[Starship824]

A Superhero Courtyard is a great idea, committing to one IP could lead to issues when that IP becomes unpopular (which tbqh I think a Zootopia land would age very quickly), but making it a genre land like Fantasyland or Frontierland would allow for attractions to come and go without needing to retheme the entire land.

Superhero Courtyard with a Big Hero 6 coaster, Incredibles stage show and Dr Strange dark ride? I'm all for it.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

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I agree with letting him cook on this but Dr Strange doesn't quite feel right to me in this specific square. I have a slight idea but it would be a long shot. If we put a Dr Strange Mystic Manor style dark ride where Beauty and the Beast is right now Sunset Boulevard becomes "Mystic Hollywood" and we keep ToT how it is unless Disney wants to scrap the Twilight Zone theming then keep ToT its own original attraction with possibly a new storyline similar to the one at Tokyo (emphasis on ORIGINAL attraction not Marvel 2.0)

 

[Professortango1]

It’s Paris ToT. You can also argue that Tokyo ToT, even with its beautiful theming, probably has the worst drop sequence.

Paris' is pretty bad, but at least its still horror themed with show scenes. And there's not a bunch lighting bars with branding bolted above doorways. That's so embarrassing, its like a major Hollywood Film having barcodes on the bottom of the china in a scene. No wonder it was the ride that made Joe Rohde quit.

 

[Professortango1]

A Superhero Courtyard is a great idea, committing to one IP could lead to issues when that IP becomes unpopular (which tbqh I think a Zootopia land would age very quickly), but making it a genre land like Fantasyland or Frontierland would allow for attractions to come and go without needing to retheme the entire land.

Superhero Courtyard with a Big Hero 6 coaster, Incredibles stage show and Dr Strange dark ride? I'm all for it.

I've always said that Big Hero Six should have taken over RnRC and the Guardians Tower should have been Florida's, as the design of that tower allows for a more adventure-themed storyline. I'd be down with a Doctor Strange retheme as well.

 

[James Alucobond]

Even if that is true. Still the far better plan because AC area is pathetic esthetically in upkeep and content. Now the park suffers a content and a stronger venue attraction loss in this downtime.

I agree with this and have said as much. AC absolutely should have gone first. Just saying that it going first wouldn’t negate Muppets going at all.

 

[celluloid]

"As we move forward with these changes, we are having creative conversations and exploring ways to preserve the film and other parts of the experience for fans to enjoy in the future."

..."and other parts of the experience" would likely mean more than just the film

This could mean a defunct Bean and Penguin animatronic behind glass in Walt Disney Presents.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

I've always said that Big Hero Six should have taken over RnRC and the Guardians Tower should have been Florida's, as the design of that tower allows for a more adventure-themed storyline. I'd be down with a Doctor Strange retheme as well.

BH6 definitely lends itself to a coaster, though I personally like Florida's ToT staying the way it is (aside from it being the park icon- why isn't the Chinese Theater the park icon?)

 

[SammyG]

Now that we know the door coaster is going into a new building backstage instead of the Muppetvision building, will they still be using the Mack ride system from Arthur in Europa Park?

Or will they be doing something different with a bigger building?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Now that we know the door coaster is going into a new building backstage instead of the Muppetvision building, will they still be using the Mack ride system from Arthur in Europa Park?

Or will they be doing something different with a bigger building?

I’m not sure where you got Mack Inverted Powered Coaster. The artwork very clearly looks like Vekoma Suspended Family Coaster trains.