News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Casper Gutman]

One truth this whole thing illustrates is that theme park fans are pretty good at determining when and where something needs to be fixed (the Animation Courtyard graveyard, the terrible Imagination pavilion, Magic Kingdom capacity, etc) but are usually dreadful at determining how to fix it or at imagining new attractions.

 

[lentesta]

Hey, since multiple people have refuted or alluded to this rumor, is it ok if I make a thread on it?

I'm cool with it.

 

[Streetway]

I'm cool with it.

Done. I credited you, along with other people associated with the rumor, in it.

 

[build_it]

So, if they move Monsters, Inc laugh floor to DHS, can we get Pigs in Space in the MK space they vacate?!?

 

[doctornick]

So, if they move Monsters, Inc laugh floor to DHS, can we get Pigs in Space in the MK space they vacate?!?

Pigs in space in the Stitch space would actually work well…

 

[ToTBellHop]

Sounds like it has indeed landed on Grand Ave but I don’t think it impacts Star Tours. While MuppetVision has excellent GSATs, the rest of the impacted area is underutilized (shuttered shops, PizzeRizzo, Melrose’s) and already looks like a city. They can easily build the new coaster here and reopen the shops (with monster merch that will sell) and have an on-theme QSR, TSR and M&Gs open.

I also think they may be planning to announce, now that HoP must be updated anyway, that the Muppets will move from DHS to MK to lessen the blow there, but that’s just my personal thoughts on why they haven’t announced MuppetVision’s closure.

 

[Winter]

Sounds like it has indeed landed on Grand Ave but I don’t think it impacts Star Tours. While MuppetVision has excellent GSATs, the rest of the impacted area is underutilized (shuttered shops, PizzeRizzo, Melrose’s) and already looks like a city. They can easily build the new coaster here and reopen the shops (with monster merch that will sell) and have an on-theme QSR, TSR and M&Gs open.

I also think they may be planning to announce, now that HoP must be updated anyway, that the Muppets will move from DHS to MK to lessen the blow there, but that’s just my personal thoughts on why they haven’t announced MuppetVision’s closure.

I've seen people mention GSATs on this forum a couple times recently. I assume from context that it's how much people like them? Is there a way to see them, or are they private to Disney?

 

[doctornick]

Sounds like it has indeed landed on Grand Ave but I don’t think it impacts Star Tours. While MuppetVision has excellent GSATs, the rest of the impacted area is underutilized (shuttered shops, PizzeRizzo, Melrose’s) and already looks like a city. They can easily build the new coaster here and reopen the shops (with monster merch that will sell) and have an on-theme QSR, TSR and M&Gs open.

I also think they may be planning to announce, now that HoP must be updated anyway, that the Muppets will move from DHS to MK to lessen the blow there, but that’s just my personal thoughts on why they haven’t announced MuppetVision’s closure.

So lots of money spent shuffling deck chairs without any actual capacity increase. Great.

So much for the $17B going to increase capacity at WDW. Same old same old.

 

[SpectroMagician]

Finally following through with a great idea first proposed over a decade ago. However the actual ride track looks very short, similar to how Tron is so short. Disney really needs to understand that the marginal cost of making a coaster longer is very small compared to the total cost and make their rides longer.

 

[Inspired Figment]

Also some guy on Twitter did this

Ya know.. ‘if’ for whatever reason, backlash doesn’t change Disney’s decision in removing Muppet•Vision (at the very least, not even bringing it back to DCA) there’s always the possibility they could also move/donate out of prosperity, the show to say, the Musuem of puppetry in Atlanta as a permanent tribute/showcase of the last thing Jim Henson worked on. Just another idea to throw out there.

 

[Horizonsfan]

That's a mind-boggling brain-dead creative decision.

They could demo Stage 1 for a wider path, coupled with a partial demo/reconstruction of Mama Melrose into a Harryhousen's that faces a new annex courtyard for Monstropolis and the coaster. They've got the space needed from Melrose/MV3D to the southward canal.

No reason to kill MV3D...beyond presumably a cynical greed for more LL $$$.

 

[SpectroMagician]

The strongest concept I've heard is "Muppets American History" to replace Hall of Presidents. That checks a lot of boxes:

• It's an IP Disney owns
• Half the country hates HOP at any given moment in time
• HOP is the lowest-rated attraction in WDW for several guest demographics
• The current HOP really has no "here's where we go from here" opportunities. They're not going to turn it into a musical. It's just not a subject that a lot of people care about enough to see.

Plus, the Muppets are viewed as largely apolitical by most Americans. They could tell the good parts and the bad parts (and avoid others entirely) in a way that most people would enjoy.

As someone who is a big HOP fan in general, even if I hate the person talking half the time, I think this is a wonderful idea.

 

[Smooth]

Has anyone talked to a bus driver yet to get the real answers?

 

[Inspired Figment]

Ya know.. something that could possibly be a net positive that I (and I’m sure a number of folks) could accept if done. If they strictly kept Muppet•Vision 3D in the Magic Eye Theatre with a little tribute exhibit to Jim Henson in the theatre lobby area and brought the original 83-98 Journey Into Imagination ride back with tech & spfx enhancements. No sneaky tactics like they did with Honey I Shrunk the Audience to close & retheme the ride to the theme of the 4D movie in ‘99, anytime in the future. I could absolutely get behind that concept.

If they could have Captain EO there in 86-93 with no problems, I would think they could with Muppet•Vision similarly. But yeah.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Tom Sawyer, Rivers of America, the Liberty Belle, and Muppets all killed at the same time. And Hall of Presidents might be next. What a truly awful day for Disney.

 

[Inspired Figment]

Tom Sawyer, Rivers of America, the Liberty Belle, and Muppets all killed at the same time. And Mr. Lincoln might be next (as if he hasn’t suffered enough already). What a truly awful day for Disney.

Mr. Lincoln is thankfully staying. It’s been stated it’ll rotate alongside the Walt show. Disney made the right call on that atleast

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Any thought of putting muppets in the hall of presidents is patently stupid and just more evidence of the desperate need for an entire new corporate vision for TWDC

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

To Disney, Animation Courtyard isn’t a desolate wasteland. Its office space and yes that is very much given heavy consideration.

…you’ve been awful quiet

 

[Coaster Lover]

If this does go into Muppets Courtyard, they must have plans for Animation Courtyard too... right? RIGHT?!? I mean, it's not Cars and not villians... so... Zootopia? Incredibles? Something else?

I suspect we'll see the Muppet Vision film "preserved" on Disney+...

 

[easyrowrdw]

Mr. Lincoln is thankfully staying. It’s been stated it’ll rotate alongside the Walt show. Disney made the right call on that atleast

I was referencing the Hall of Presidents, where Mr Lincoln also resides.