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[JackCH]

TRON is really bad from Storybook Circus, the train, and the Contemporary. It's just that a lot of people don't bother going to Storybook Circus and some don't care about the resort views for whatever reason. Cosmic Rewind is really bad when approaching the park and when looking back from World Showcase, which some also don't care about, but I really hate that it competes with Spaceship Earth. It isn't even all that well hidden when within World Discovery.

I can excuse France somewhat and the Starcruiser is no longer relevant, but France would be such an easy fix that it's insanely frustrating.

Fair. I don't personally mind the sightlines outside of the park. (for example, the back of EE is awful outside AK, but I excuse that). Never go to Storybook so that is why I missed that one. Just haven't noticed Cosmic Rewind, but I may just be oblivious lol.

The concern definitely isn't the way it was when they designed ToT to have the back side match Morocco. But I'm not sure they have been that way for a long time (see EE point above).

 

[JackCH]

Six Flags Magic Mountain, Epcot, Alton Towers as far as I've experienced. I still want to visit Dollywood, Efteling, Tokyo Disney Seas, and Shangai Disney.

MK has more to do than all of those.

Disneyland is probably more like a 1 1/2 to 2 day park. And again, MK will actually be close if they do Cars and Villains. It only has like 3 fewer major attractions.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Why?

There are many examples of poor sight lines. For the most part, they are still OK within the parks with a few exceptions (but there have always been exceptions).

But the views of Pandora and Galaxies edge from public areas outside the park are extremely bad show.

Related specifically to this topic, you can see the existing muppets building from within galaxies edge - that could have been prevented in the design, but it wasn’t.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Just haven't noticed Cosmic Rewind, but I may just be oblivious lol.

Cosmic is actually not that noticeable from within the park - in my opinion and to my surprise since when they were constructing it I thought it would stick out really bad. That go away blue must work haha.

 

[JackCH]

There are many examples of poor sight lines. For the most part, they are still OK within the parks with a few exceptions (but there have always been exceptions).

But the views of Pandora and Galaxies edge from public areas outside the park are extremely bad show.

Related specifically to this topic, you can see the existing muppets building from within galaxies edge - that could have been prevented in the design, but it wasn’t.

I guess I've never counted outside the park as much. EE looks terrible from behind as well.

Never noticed Muppets. I feel like if you aren't looking for it you wouldn't notice.

But again, fair enough. I don't think they don't care at all about sightlines. But perhaps they don't care as much as they used to.

 

[James Alucobond]

Maybe they will get the sightlines correct for Monsters land, Cars land, Villains land and Tropical Americas area.

Tropical Americas re-uses pretty much all existing infrastructure, with the only added show building cloaked in tiered rockwork in the the model. Should be fine.

Cars is definitely considering it based on the artwork. The concerns are threefold in that:

1. You have two tall attractions next door (Tiana and Big Thunder) that may offer unfavorable views if they're not careful.
2. The actual content of the proposed attractions doesn't mesh well with the rest of the land and therefore will need to be fully obscured from the main Frontierland pathway to be thematically inoffensive.
3. What's being replaced is obviously thematically superior.

Monsters should be fine even if it's partially visible from Galaxy's Edge if they just face the whole thing with finished paneling instead of falling back on go-away blue with exposed gutters and a corrugated exterior.

We know nothing about Villains, so speculation is irrelevant.

 

[Jrb1979]

MK has more to do than all of those.

Disneyland is probably more like a 1 1/2 to 2 day park. And again, MK will actually be close if they do Cars and Villains. It only has like 3 fewer major attractions.

Disagree. Magic Mountain is on par with MK in terms of attractions. Dollywood has more than MK.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Tropical Americas re-uses pretty much all existing infrastructure, with the only added show building cloaked in tiered rockwork in the the model. Should be fine.

Cars is definitely considering it based on the artwork. The concerns are threefold in that:

1. You have two tall attractions next door (Tiana and Big Thunder) that may offer unfavorable views if they're not careful.
2. The actual content of the proposed attractions doesn't mesh well with the rest of the land and therefore will need to be fully obscured from the main Frontierland pathway to be thematically inoffensive.
3. What's being replaced is obviously thematically superior.

Monsters should be fine even if it's partially visible from Galaxy's Edge if they just face the whole thing with finished paneling instead of falling back on go-away blue with exposed gutters and a corrugated exterior.

We know nothing about Villains, so speculation is irrelevant.

Good points.

My heart wants todays Disney to be like the old Disney where they painted the back of ToT so it looked good from EPCOT.

My brain says today's Disney just wants to spend the least possible in the parks and the heck with sightlines; it is what it is; just get it done as cheap as possible.

I guess I have just lost faith.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I guess I've never counted outside the park as much. EE looks terrible from behind as well.

Any public area is “on stage” in my opinion.

 

[James Alucobond]

Any public area is “on stage” in my opinion.

I mostly consider any resort or guest transportation view as on stage. When you sell park view rooms at a premium, those park views should be good, as they were for decades from the Contemporary before TRON arrived. It's also why Everest concerns me less than other things. I've never had a Disney bus drive me anywhere near it.

 

[Professortango1]

MK has more to do than all of those.

Disneyland is probably more like a 1 1/2 to 2 day park. And again, MK will actually be close if they do Cars and Villains. It only has like 3 fewer major attractions.

Not sure about your first statement, especially in regards to attractions that appeal to teens and up. MK has a lot of attractions aimed at 10 and under, which is understandable. But its the same reason I don't visit Lego Land, the parks don't have enough that appeals to me as the person spending my money.

As for 2 day park...I've never been to Disneyland for 2 days. I could see doing 2 days if I was looking to do DCA with it. Or 2 days if I was looking to take a nap mid-day both days. Or if this was the only time you expect to visit the park in the next 15 years. I can't imagine doing two back-to-back days at Disneyland when I can experience just about everything in a single day.

I am hoping that Cars can be a hit. Radiator Springs Racers is a killer attraction at DCA and pretty much the only reason I visit that park. I know MK isn't getting that attraction model, so hopefully their new concept is just as breathtaking and fun to experience. As long as Disney learned the right lessons from GE, Villains should turn out decently. I just worry about a lot of wide flat walkways like MK and GE. They didn't learn from Wizarding World's successes, so hopefully Disney can learn from their own shortcomings.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I'm an advocate for capacity expansions, but MK is not lacking attraction capacity.

It really is. The park hasn’t expanded much from its initial plans intended for 10 million visitors per year. We’ve just accepted fewer attractions per hour.

Uni has no interest in removing their grip from Marvel at Florida. You can make a billion "rumor" news stories but the cold hard fact is that Universal has the upper hand for superheroes right now and it'd take Batman being available for licensing for them to release Marvel (and that's me guessing!).

Almost no chance Warner Bros. would offer Batman for less than Marvel.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It's also why Everest concerns me less than other things. I've never had a Disney bus drive me anywhere near it.

Everest was really bad when it opened - from the DAK parking lot and also from transportation when on the overpass. It’s much better now - still a few problem areas but not terrible.

However, the view of Avatar (and backstage areas in general) from Disney transportation when arriving at DAK is truly horrible show.

There are similarly bad views of Galaxies Edge from guest areas.

 

[JackCH]

Disagree. Magic Mountain is on par with MK in terms of attractions. Dollywood has more than MK.

Just looked at a list. Dollywood has a lot more than I thought!

 

[lazyboy97o]

I can excuse France somewhat and the Starcruiser is no longer relevant, but France would be such an easy fix that it's insanely frustrating.

France is even worse because the ridiculous placement of Ratatouille was driven in part by the desire to clean up the view for the Skyliner.

I never did starcuiser for obvious reasons what was the problem with the sight lines there?

You’re drive to it involved seeing the bare backside of Galaxy’s Edge.

 

[Agent H]

France is even worse because the ridiculous placement of Ratatouille was driven in part by the desire to clean up the view for the Skyliner.


You’re drive to it involved seeing the bare backside of Galaxy’s Edge.

Oh I know that I remark on that every time I drive past it that’s bad show with or without the starcuiser

 

[UNCgolf]

If Disneyland is a full day park and MK offers less...it's what? A 66% day park? A 2/3's day park?

Disneyland isn't a full day park if you want to ride everything and see every show, it's a multiple day park. Any average guest can't come close to experiencing everything at Disneyland in one day; most average guests can't even experience everything at the Magic Kingdom in one day.

It's obviously relative as to what any individual wants to do -- I doubt there are many people that want to experience every attraction in any park. I personally could do Magic Mountain in like two hours because almost none of the attractions are interesting to me, but that doesn't mean it's a half-day park in general.

 

[Professortango1]

Disneyland isn't a full day park -- it's a multiple day park. Any average guest can't come close to experiencing everything at Disneyland in one day; most average guests can't even experience everything at the Magic Kingdom in one day.

What makes a park a full day park isn't the quantity of experiences. A park could be packed with spinners, flat rides, and meet and greets. For someone with toddlers and young children, that could occupy a full day, but for most visitors, they would find themselves bored after a few hours at most.

No park is designed for guests to experience every single experience offered. You know that some people may not enjoy Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln while they may appreciate the Storybook Land Canals. Some may love Tron and you couldn't get them to do Belle's storytime experience to save their life.

What makes a good full day park for me is if there is enough variety to allow me to have a lot of varied experiences throughout the day. I can spend an hour or two riding the pretzel rides and enjoying their charm. I can spend several hours on the giant E-tickets that immerse you fully, I can spend an hour experiencing Fantasmic or a quality stage show, etc.

Considering that the Gumball Rally exists and people routinely can knock out all or most of the attractions in a single day, I would never call Disneyland a multiple day park. It's just a really good theme park. Single day, but full of so many types of experiences. You could do all of the DLR in 2 days, including DCA. If the Florida parks were closer to one another, I could easily do MK, DHS, and AK in the course of a single day.

Epcot is the only other US Disney park where I have to spend a full day there to experience all that I want to experience.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

I'm not a fan of the office building that comes out of Everest. You can see parts of this from the parking lot and the drive to Animal Kingdom, and it's bothered me since the ride opened.

 

[Agent H]

I'm not a fan of the office building that comes out of Everest. You can see parts of this from the parking lot and the drive to Animal Kingdom, and it's bothered me since the ride opened.

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I don’t know I’m just going to imagine that’s the base camp we never made it to