DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Gusey]

I agree with your overall point but want to mention Beauty and the Beast has the weird interactive show thing and that whole area is supposed to be for her. With a sitdown restaurant, quick service restaurant, said kinda-sorta-attraction-maybe thing, then the live show, then the stupid sing-along, it's in three parks and doing waaaaaay better than most movies.

(Give it a year and I'm sure they can shove it in Animal Kingdom somewhere. It's got a horse in it, afterall.)

Ironically, they're removing the only reference to Beauty and the Beast from AK, when It's Tough to be a Bug closes. One of the songs you can hear in the queue is "Beauty and the Bees"

 

[Gusey]

At least we know what Disney's response to Epic in 2025 is: close things so people come and say goodbye for the last time and use 2025 as a farewell tour, saying goodbye to Muppet Vision, Rivers of America, Rock 'n' Rollercoaster, It's Yough to be a Bug and what's left of Dinoland.

 

[castlecake2.0]

Is this any indication when VOTLM is reopening to help offset some capacity loss? Also pray for backlot express trying to handle the QSR loss on that side of the park

 

[ToTBellHop]

Is this any indication when VOTLM is reopening to help offset some capacity loss? Also pray for backlot express trying to handle the QSR loss on that side of the park

By June 7.

 

[mattpeto]

It's telling that you don't engage with what I actually say.

Muppets is a bad fit for a coaster. Monsters is a bad fit for a land and a stage show. Neither plan plays to the properties’ strengths.

But none of that matters much, since the coaster (and Villains Land, and a lot of other announced projects) will be “delayed indefinitely” in late 2025 and 2026 by rising construction material costs, a widespread labor shortage, and new management at the top of Disney.

 

[JD80]

It's telling that you don't engage with what I actually say.

It should tell you that I don't take you seriously in any regard.

 

[castlecake2.0]

By June 7.

Hopefully that includes the gift shops at the exit, make that area look less like a dead mall

 

[Casper Gutman]

Yes, as those posts indicate, I think there is every reason to be skeptical of Villains Land. And, as I said, it is likely that the Monsters door coaster, AK, and Cars additions occur, albeit with cuts (and despite the fact that two of them are awful ideas). If you feel that position is absurd, feel free to explain why. Be sure to reference historical experience.

That leaves the Muppets RnRC overlay. It’s such a fundamental mismatch between ride system and IP that skepticism is warranted, but there are business reasons that make it more likely than not. I’d say there’s about a 75% chance we see a very unimpressive shoe horning of the Muppets into the coaster.

This whole discussion is particularly relevant because, with the exception of the AK plans, the “first round” of looming changes are so disappointing to so many posters that the “second round” was widely used to sweeten the medicine. There were many posts essentially saying, “Sure, the loss of Rivers isn’t great and the Cars addition wouldn’t be my choice, but we’re also getting Villains Land at some point!” Those reactions are EXACTLY why Disney structured these announcements as they did and should invite immediate skepticism about the clearly pandering “phase two” projects simply as a matter of principle.

 

[Casper Gutman]

It should tell you that I don't take you seriously in any regard.

Then we have no basis for discussion and you should feel free to ignore me rather then taking periodic, substanceless pot shots.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Yes, as those posts indicate, I think there is every reason to be skeptical of Villains Land. And, as I said, it is likely that the Monsters door coaster, AK, and Cars additions occur, albeit with cuts (and despite the fact that two of them are awful ideas). If you feel that position is absurd, feel free to explain why. Be sure to reference historical experience.

That leaves the Muppets RnRC overlay. It’s such a fundamental mismatch between ride system and IP that skepticism is warranted, but there are business reasons that make it more likely than not. I’d say there’s about a 75% chance we see a very unimpressive shoe horning of the Muppets into the coaster.

This whole discussion is particularly relevant because, with the exception of the AK plans, the “first round” of looming changes are so disappointing to so many posters that the “second round” was widely used to sweeten the medicine. There were many posts essentially saying, “Sure, the loss of Rivers isn’t great and the Cars addition wouldn’t be my choice, but we’re also getting Villains Land at some point!” Those reactions are EXACTLY why Disney structured these announcements as they did and should invite immediate skepticism about the clearly pandering “phase two” projects simply as a matter of principle.

I've always been skeptical of Villains. Still am. Until they drop more concept deets I'll remain so.

 

[JackCH]

I've always been skeptical of Villains. Still am. Until they drop more concept deets I'll remain so.

I would be shocked if Villains didn’t happen. Too major of a project with too much excitement around it to totally cancel. I can’t think of something comparable that has been cancelled but feel free to correct me. It may be “value engineered,” but not outright cancelled.

 

[mattpeto]

Yes, as those posts indicate, I think there is every reason to be skeptical of Villains Land. And, as I said, it is likely that the Monsters door coaster, AK, and Cars additions occur, albeit with cuts (and despite the fact that two of them are awful ideas). If you feel that position is absurd, feel free to explain why. Be sure to reference historical experience.

That leaves the Muppets RnRC overlay. It’s such a fundamental mismatch between ride system and IP that skepticism is warranted, but there are business reasons that make it more likely than not. I’d say there’s about a 75% chance we see a very unimpressive shoe horning of the Muppets into the coaster.

This whole discussion is particularly relevant because, with the exception of the AK plans, the “first round” of looming changes are so disappointing to so many posters that the “second round” was widely used to sweeten the medicine. There were many posts essentially saying, “Sure, the loss of Rivers isn’t great and the Cars addition wouldn’t be my choice, but we’re also getting Villains Land at some point!” Those reactions are EXACTLY why Disney structured these announcements as they did and should invite immediate skepticism about the clearly pandering “phase two” projects simply as a matter of principle.

Villains Land is happening.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

I would be shocked if Villains didn’t happen. Too major of a project with too much excitement around it to totally cancel. I can’t think of something comparable that has been cancelled but feel free to correct me. It may be “value engineered,” but not outright cancelled.

I would to! Though it was never going to be the massive swath of land it deserved (and the fandom expected) anyway.

Just remaining cautious. Don't want to get my hopes up.

 

[Jrb1979]

Villains Land is happening.

I hope so. I hope it comes with a B&M invert as the star attraction

 

[Agent H]

I don’t know I think it’s fair to be somewhat skeptical of villains land I’m personally just trying to stay positive but there is a sense of the white whale to this I think villains land could get pushed off to 2031 for the magic kingdoms 60th anniversary remember Sisi ni sawa we are the same

 

[mattpeto]

Moving fast.

The pace should help shutdown the operational cost narrative, if it’s true.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Moving fast.

The pace should help shutdown the operational cost narrative, if it’s true.

Never in doubt.

 

[Jrb1979]

Never in doubt.

I never doubted these projects were getting cut. The point some were making was they were closing Muppets early to save on operational costs. A lot of the Monsters Inc construction isn't near the theater.

 

[Agent H]

So how do we think they’re going to monsterify PizzeRizzo

 

[Moth]

So how do we think they’re going to monsterify PizzeRizzo

I support PizzaRoz.

It'll very likely still be an eatery with bad pizza. It's a safe food for many.