DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[JD80]

It's telling that you don't engage with what I actually say.

It should tell you that I don't take you seriously in any regard.

 

[castlecake2.0]

By June 7.

Hopefully that includes the gift shops at the exit, make that area look less like a dead mall

 

[Casper Gutman]

Yes, as those posts indicate, I think there is every reason to be skeptical of Villains Land. And, as I said, it is likely that the Monsters door coaster, AK, and Cars additions occur, albeit with cuts (and despite the fact that two of them are awful ideas). If you feel that position is absurd, feel free to explain why. Be sure to reference historical experience.

That leaves the Muppets RnRC overlay. It’s such a fundamental mismatch between ride system and IP that skepticism is warranted, but there are business reasons that make it more likely than not. I’d say there’s about a 75% chance we see a very unimpressive shoe horning of the Muppets into the coaster.

This whole discussion is particularly relevant because, with the exception of the AK plans, the “first round” of looming changes are so disappointing to so many posters that the “second round” was widely used to sweeten the medicine. There were many posts essentially saying, “Sure, the loss of Rivers isn’t great and the Cars addition wouldn’t be my choice, but we’re also getting Villains Land at some point!” Those reactions are EXACTLY why Disney structured these announcements as they did and should invite immediate skepticism about the clearly pandering “phase two” projects simply as a matter of principle.

 

[Casper Gutman]

It should tell you that I don't take you seriously in any regard.

Then we have no basis for discussion and you should feel free to ignore me rather then taking periodic, substanceless pot shots.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Yes, as those posts indicate, I think there is every reason to be skeptical of Villains Land. And, as I said, it is likely that the Monsters door coaster, AK, and Cars additions occur, albeit with cuts (and despite the fact that two of them are awful ideas). If you feel that position is absurd, feel free to explain why. Be sure to reference historical experience.

That leaves the Muppets RnRC overlay. It’s such a fundamental mismatch between ride system and IP that skepticism is warranted, but there are business reasons that make it more likely than not. I’d say there’s about a 75% chance we see a very unimpressive shoe horning of the Muppets into the coaster.

This whole discussion is particularly relevant because, with the exception of the AK plans, the “first round” of looming changes are so disappointing to so many posters that the “second round” was widely used to sweeten the medicine. There were many posts essentially saying, “Sure, the loss of Rivers isn’t great and the Cars addition wouldn’t be my choice, but we’re also getting Villains Land at some point!” Those reactions are EXACTLY why Disney structured these announcements as they did and should invite immediate skepticism about the clearly pandering “phase two” projects simply as a matter of principle.

I've always been skeptical of Villains. Still am. Until they drop more concept deets I'll remain so.

 

[JackCH]

I've always been skeptical of Villains. Still am. Until they drop more concept deets I'll remain so.

I would be shocked if Villains didn’t happen. Too major of a project with too much excitement around it to totally cancel. I can’t think of something comparable that has been cancelled but feel free to correct me. It may be “value engineered,” but not outright cancelled.

 

[mattpeto]

Yes, as those posts indicate, I think there is every reason to be skeptical of Villains Land. And, as I said, it is likely that the Monsters door coaster, AK, and Cars additions occur, albeit with cuts (and despite the fact that two of them are awful ideas). If you feel that position is absurd, feel free to explain why. Be sure to reference historical experience.

That leaves the Muppets RnRC overlay. It’s such a fundamental mismatch between ride system and IP that skepticism is warranted, but there are business reasons that make it more likely than not. I’d say there’s about a 75% chance we see a very unimpressive shoe horning of the Muppets into the coaster.

This whole discussion is particularly relevant because, with the exception of the AK plans, the “first round” of looming changes are so disappointing to so many posters that the “second round” was widely used to sweeten the medicine. There were many posts essentially saying, “Sure, the loss of Rivers isn’t great and the Cars addition wouldn’t be my choice, but we’re also getting Villains Land at some point!” Those reactions are EXACTLY why Disney structured these announcements as they did and should invite immediate skepticism about the clearly pandering “phase two” projects simply as a matter of principle.

Villains Land is happening.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

I would be shocked if Villains didn’t happen. Too major of a project with too much excitement around it to totally cancel. I can’t think of something comparable that has been cancelled but feel free to correct me. It may be “value engineered,” but not outright cancelled.

I would to! Though it was never going to be the massive swath of land it deserved (and the fandom expected) anyway.

Just remaining cautious. Don't want to get my hopes up.

 

[Jrb1979]

Villains Land is happening.

I hope so. I hope it comes with a B&M invert as the star attraction

 

[Agent H]

I don’t know I think it’s fair to be somewhat skeptical of villains land I’m personally just trying to stay positive but there is a sense of the white whale to this I think villains land could get pushed off to 2031 for the magic kingdoms 60th anniversary remember Sisi ni sawa we are the same

 

[mattpeto]

Moving fast.

The pace should help shutdown the operational cost narrative, if it’s true.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

Moving fast.

The pace should help shutdown the operational cost narrative, if it’s true.

Never in doubt.

 

[Jrb1979]

Never in doubt.

I never doubted these projects were getting cut. The point some were making was they were closing Muppets early to save on operational costs. A lot of the Monsters Inc construction isn't near the theater.

 

[Agent H]

So how do we think they’re going to monsterify PizzeRizzo

 

[Moth]

So how do we think they’re going to monsterify PizzeRizzo

I support PizzaRoz.

It'll very likely still be an eatery with bad pizza. It's a safe food for many.

 

[mattpeto]

I support PizzaRoz.

It'll very likely still be an eatery with bad pizza. It's a safe food for many.

Portnoy actually gave it a 7.1.

Made me think it might be as awful as I thought…

 

[ToTBellHop]

Given that the land’s TSR will no longer serve Italian (if it’s on theme), I’m sure the QSR will stick with bad pizza. If the pepperoni is blue, it will still be nasty pizza but somehow more charming.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

 

[mattpeto]

Given that the land’s TSR will no longer serve Italian (if it’s on theme), I’m sure the QSR will stick with bad pizza. If the pepperoni is blue, it will still be nasty pizza but somehow more charming.

Hoping whenever they demo AC buildings, they think of dining while they are at it..

I think that’s the main reason why Monsters went to Grand Avenue.

 

[JackCH]

I support PizzaRoz.

It'll very likely still be an eatery with bad pizza. It's a safe food for many.

Does it share a kitchen with Mama Melrose? Any chance that affects what it turns into as they might need similar types of food there?