I think the NTSB categorized the WDW Monorail System as a private transportation system in their accident report from the 2009 accident. They based this on a couple things, but I think the most important thing was that you can ride it without the need for a theme park ticket. So, that classification may be enough for Disney to skirt the agreement with Universal...but keeping the Avengorail on the MK lines helps avoid an unneccesary argument.
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Monorail to be wrapped once again
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I think the NTSB categorized the WDW Monorail System as a private transportation system in their accident report from the 2009 accident. They based this on a couple things, but I think the most important thing was that you can ride it without the need for a theme park ticket. So, that classification may be enough for Disney to skirt the agreement with Universal...but keeping the Avengorail on the MK lines helps avoid an unneccesary argument.
invader
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I actually wouldn't be opposed to that. Cruise Line wouldn't allow a crappy job.
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
I'm with you. I love it.
And to those who don't, take comfort in the fact that it's just temporary.
lazyboy97o
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I almost think that, unless Disney discussed this with Universal, that Universal would want to challenge this action. If something at a place dedicated to theme parks is allowed, then what else could Disney do so long as it is outside of one of the four theme parks?
Yeah, but it is still an advertisement injected into the magic of the parks, and it breaks the theming of the parks. I know the cruise line exists. I don't need to be reminded of it as I walk between Future World and World Showcase on a 45 minute basis, or have the billboard cruise past me as I walk out to the Seven Seas Lagoon.
It is just my opinion obviously. But, I am worried that this break with tradition will lead not only to more and more out of place Monorail wraps, but also to advertisements appearing on the doors of the vehicles in SpaceShip Earth, along the sides of the cars in Space Mountain, inside the PeopleMover, and places like that. Slippery slope. We already can't walk 10 feet through any of the parks without seeing a Vacation Club kiosk...
WDW1974
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So ... catch me up, please. Disney is wrapping a train in Avengers advertising?
Good old Epcot Explorer must be apocleptic (all the while discussing the merits of citrus swirls and thematic integrity ... Lee, we need to sit the boy down and have 'the talk'!)
I find it all amusing. Maybe they should have put a train in John Carter wrapping like last fall!
And Avengers ... REALLY?!??! The characters that LIVE up the road at IOA and can never live at WDW. ... On a film that Disney already had to pay $115 million upfront (with more coming) to Paramount Pictures (the original distributer) just to be able to place the freaking castle logo at the front of the film.
Does anyone really think Disney is being run on all cylinders? Seriously ... I've got two weeks left until I leave on my top one percent five week vacation to Europe and I'd love to get into a fun online scrum about how great Disney is run (or not) ... anyone?
~Hey, Lee ... would you like me to do showtunes next?!~
Good old Epcot Explorer must be apocleptic (all the while discussing the merits of citrus swirls and thematic integrity ... Lee, we need to sit the boy down and have 'the talk'!)
I find it all amusing. Maybe they should have put a train in John Carter wrapping like last fall!
And Avengers ... REALLY?!??! The characters that LIVE up the road at IOA and can never live at WDW. ... On a film that Disney already had to pay $115 million upfront (with more coming) to Paramount Pictures (the original distributer) just to be able to place the freaking castle logo at the front of the film.
Does anyone really think Disney is being run on all cylinders? Seriously ... I've got two weeks left until I leave on my top one percent five week vacation to Europe and I'd love to get into a fun online scrum about how great Disney is run (or not) ... anyone?
~Hey, Lee ... would you like me to do showtunes next?!~
WDW1974
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Oh, and couldn't help but notice that it sure looked like ALL Marvel merchandise had been removed from MK and Studios when I was there a little over a week ago. Didn't see anything.
But my local Character Warehouse outlet has loads of it.
~I'm sure it just flew off the shelves at WDW!~
But my local Character Warehouse outlet has loads of it.
~I'm sure it just flew off the shelves at WDW!~
HenryMystic
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Did the $115 go towards the production budget, or did it strictly go to Paramount's (execs) pockets?
lazyboy97o
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If I recall correctly Disney paid Paramount an estimate of their profits from the films plus an extra fee on top of all of that.
The Empress Lilly
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WDW1974
Well-Known Member
That is correct ... and I am almost positive that Paramount still gets it logo on the film as well (it's on all the posters), just that Disney's is seen first and Disney pays FOR ALL marketing on this thing.
It may do well. I don't particularly like Marvel characters, but it looks like it has some potential ... but with Dark Night coming out one has to be realistic about the super hero film that most geeks (and non-geeks) want to see. This isn't going to lose money, but it isn't going to be a mega-blockbuster either.
~Those Viacom folks are smart! Money for nothing and the pub for free!~
lazyboy97o
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The Avengers has almost three months on The Dark Knight Rises. What Disney is probably more concerned about is Batman merchandise making Spider-Man merchandise completely irrelevant.
KingdomStroller
New Member
Saw it tonight around 3am. Does not look half bad, though it was dark and I was in no position to slow down.
Testtrack321
Well-Known Member
Yup.
I hate hyperbole as much as anyone else, but anyone want to explain to me how this isn't Six Flags level of tackiness? No really, they wrap their coaster cars in ads for movies too. Did Pressler's "If it's good enough for Six Flags" powerpoint presentations get spread out to Orlando?
threeyoda
Active Member
Actually, Six Flags sells ad space on their roller coaster trains to outside companies. El Toro in Great Adventure (NJ) had a Pink & Green Stride Gum ad on its train last year, completely ruining the Spanish Bull theme of the coaster.
So at least Disney World is advertising a movie being released by another part of the same company rather than advertising outside companies. And at least its on a transportation system outside the theme parks, not on a ride vehicle. It's got that going for it.
imagineer boy
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That is one of the most utterly hideous things I have ever seen. Yuck. 1000 times worse than the Tronorail.
I seriously cringed when I saw that picture.:brick::brick::brick::brick:
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Are your thoughts telling you the contract is wrong?
Financially Walt Disney Pictures and Marvel Studios are outside company, so why should Walt Disney World refuse an outside offer should one be made?
Walt Disney World is also sold as a whole experience. Would it be okay for strip malls to be developed along World Drive because it is outside the theme parks?