MONORAIL EXPANSION COMING FOR EPCOT??

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
You people are toxic, do the 4 of you go to the same high school?
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PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
I hear everything you are saying, and you are making decent arguments but, with all due respect, I don't think you hearing me. I'm not asking If you think they should, I'm asking if you think EPCOT is their next target and if any expansion of the monorail will be included since theres already a station for it. Then: What might that look like? Mine "map" is from a magical world where money is no, object, my imagination. Forgive me for having one on a Disney website I'm a little surprised by the amount of venom involved in these responses but what would Disney be without villains right?

You, sir are no villain. You speak in fact and statistics and I appreciate you for that. 12 new trains for the current track, that does say a lot! I do want to say the price of anything goes down once you have a mold and make several of them. The first monorail design was very expensive, the next 6 expensive, the next 6 kind of expensive... I don't think Disney should just give up and destroy the monorail but that could be a generational view from someone who comes from a time when they were the future.

I have heard you. I've tried to be polite and diplomatic about it. Yes, I would love an expanded monorail system but I'd also like a Disney that isn't solely driven by profit and milking every last dollar out of the guests without reinvestment.

You want to blue sky this, fine. Go ahead. Thats your prerogative.
 

Vinny

Member
The construction of Monorails is a deep political battle. A monorail that is built with safety in mind and beautiful aesthetics is one that can redevelop chaotic and dysfunctional inner cities into economic engines of change. So sadly, Disney is politically being bullied from showcasing what could be. What a Disney Monorail offers it's commuters is a greatly positive perspective on the world. It's just like what the movie Tomorrowland said: "they made the commercial for the future but they never built it"
 

wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
The construction of Monorails is a deep political battle. A monorail that is built with safety in mind and beautiful aesthetics is one that can redevelop chaotic and dysfunctional inner cities into economic engines of change. So sadly, Disney is politically being bullied from showcasing what could be. What a Disney Monorail offers it's commuters is a greatly positive perspective on the world. It's just like what the movie Tomorrowland said: "they made the commercial for the future but they never built it"
Ok, I'll bite. Bullied by who?
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
I have heard you. I've tried to be polite and diplomatic about it. Yes, I would love an expanded monorail system but I'd also like a Disney that isn't solely driven by profit and milking every last dollar out of the guests without reinvestment.

You want to blue sky this, fine. Go ahead. Thats your prerogative.
Which is why it is now in Imagineering, where it belongs.

/me pages other imagineers

@IDInstitute
@MonorailRed
(I would tag more, but I am on my iPhone...)
Etc...

The OP will likely find the sort of hypothetical conversation he/she craves over here...instead of N&R
 
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wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
The One Percenters. Bernie Sanders is a Saint for pointing the finger. Our world is rigged, and the broken inner city is a cog in the One Percenters design of our world. That's why the Monorail technology is being built, but only in other parts of the world like Asia, the Middle East, or South America.
TWDC decided to move away from the monorails years ago. Not everything is a conspiracy....

But fine work not discussing politics. Would t want to fracture the rules of the forum or the like....
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
TWDC decided to move away from the monorails years ago. Not everything is a conspiracy....

But fine work not discussing politics. Would t want to fracture the rules of the forum or the like....
Agree. We wouldn't want to point out the individual the other party mentioned bought a multi hundred thousand dollar lake house after he left his movement hanging in the wind.
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
Which is why it is now in Imagineering, where it belongs.

/me pages other imagineers

@IDInstitute
@MonorailRed
(I would tag more, but I am on my iPhone...)
Etc...

The OP will likely find the sort of hypothetical conversation he/she craves over here...instead of N&R

Yeah, i didnt see it as "blue sky" at first. Ideally, all the roadways should have been built with multi-modes of transportation. Bus only lanes & streetcar down the middle and overhead monorail in places. But thats something you'd need to think of from the start.
 

Vinny

Member
Ok, I'll bite. Bullied by who?
Super wealthy international real estate developers. The super wealthy one percent of the people in the world, who have more money than the other 99 percent of the people in the world. That is why Monorail technology is extremely popular in Asia, the Middle East, and now even in South America.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Yeah, i didnt see it as "blue sky" at first. Ideally, all the roadways should have been built with multi-modes of transportation. Bus only lanes & streetcar down the middle and overhead monorail in places. But thats something you'd need to think of from the start.
Transportation certainly was an afterthought for most resorts. But, they've done a lot to improve the bus system in the past 5 - 6 years, imho...mostly station upgrades, but they do seem to be taking it more into account. I really like the bendy busses too. Very comfortable rides, and that extra capacity is lovely.

And, tackling the snarl that was DTD was a fantastic spend, imho.

I would love to see an expanded transit system, but it's just not practical, financially or even physically in some respects.

And, if I was to choose one, the current monorail designs are not something, as an operator, I'd want to maintain, much less expand. The largest issues being the fact they are Imagineer designed busses on square concrete that look cool (even though Gurr is my favorite imagineer)...vs something designed more as a mass transit system, to include forethought into what happens when things go wrong.

The difference between designing a dark ride omnimover, or a "toy train" setup for a theme park (which, again, all respect to Gurr, is what he was good at, REALLY good at, but even he'll admit he was more of a seat of the pants tinkerer till it worked sort...who liked to learn from mistakes) is a slightly different set of skills and talents than what is required to plan a reliable transportation system with appropriate failsafes/failovers/evaculation plans.

Staying on the ground in the first place is a nice start...
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Super wealthy international real estate developers. The super wealthy one percent of the people in the world, who have more money than the other 99 percent of the people in the world. That is why Monorail technology is extremely popular in Asia, the Middle East, and now even in South America.
Yeah, yeah, we the prols and all that, should combat the landowners and the bourgeoisie. Many of us yawned our way through Poly Sci, thanks.

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wm49rs

A naughty bit o' crumpet
Premium Member
Super wealthy international real estate developers. The super wealthy one percent of the people in the world, who have more money than the other 99 percent of the people in the world. That is why Monorail technology is extremely popular in Asia, the Middle East, and now even in South America.
Yup, still nothing to do with a theme park in Florida....
 

Heffalump333

Active Member
It would be great if this happened but, this would be very expensive and would not be a good investment for Disney. Instead I would rather to see them make more investments in the parks.
 

Vinny

Member
Yup, still nothing to do with a theme park in Florida....
As most of us know: The original purpose of Walt Disney World was to be a prototype design of the future of American cities. The monorail was a key component because of how it is a form of mass transportation that delivers a superior commuting experience while blending seamlessly into the surrounding environment.
 

mouse_luv

Well-Known Member
As most of us know: The original purpose of Walt Disney World was to be a prototype design of the future of American cities. The monorail was a key component because of how it is a form of mass transportation that delivers a superior commuting experience while blending seamlessly into the surrounding environment.
No dude-the prototype thing was EPCOT not all of WDW.
 

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