I don't have any info, but I wouldn't be shocked if this was still happening in the short term they would wait until Moana 2 to announce it so they can ride that hype trainim surprised moana wasnt announced, it was so certain on this board lol.
They're still utilizing tracts of new land with Villains, and for something already realized, they just did it with TRON. That TSI is being replaced says nothing about their willingness or unwillingness to use new space; rather, it says something about how they want space utilized in general. Personally, I'd almost rather they focus on some of the existing real estate, especially in Tomorrowland.Going back to this, now that we saw that "Beyond" Big Thunder Mountain was a farce and they were always just going to replace ROI and TSI instead of go through the process to expand, does anyone actually believe they'll actually expand into new land to have another boat ride instead of just replacing Jungle Cruise with their new preferred IP?
That was a very good questionGoing back to this, now that we saw that "Beyond" Big Thunder Mountain was a farce and they were always just going to replace ROI and TSI instead of go through the process to expand, does anyone actually believe they'll actually expand into new land to have another boat ride instead of just replacing Jungle Cruise with their new preferred IP?
All new space? So the entrance to the land is further than Haunted Mansion. If it's *all new* then means it's not where any part of River's of America is including in the back. Not saying it won't have additional space but saying all is new ...I don’t understand why people are still conflating facts. Disney is still building “beyond” Big Thunder. Villains Land is going to be all new space.
1. They are building beyond big thunder. That was not a farce or a lie. Cars was never sold to us as a Beyond project, it was made clear that it was Frontierland during the presentation. Villains is the first phase of Beyond construction. Yes it appears it will share some of the previous river space, but it will most certainly spill over into new plots. Multiple insiders have confirmed more will go back there they just don’t know what right now. That they’re doing Villains this way suggests a want to leave room Beyond for further future development.Going back to this, now that we saw that "Beyond" Big Thunder Mountain was a farce and they were always just going to replace ROI and TSI instead of go through the process to expand, does anyone actually believe they'll actually expand into new land to have another boat ride instead of just replacing Jungle Cruise with their new preferred IP?
Good point with Tron, that's the best argument against. At that point it likely was more cost effective then dealing with SM or other areas, but agree pure expansion can be done with right circumstances. Also agree, now there's no reason not to remove the Speedway particularly for later expansion.They're still utilizing tracts of new land with Villains, and for something already realized, they just did it with TRON. That TSI is being replaced says nothing about their willingness or unwillingness to use new space; rather, it says something about how they want space utilized in general. Personally, I'd almost rather they focus on some of the existing real estate, especially in Tomorrowland.
1. The land that was teased as "Beyond" Big Thunder isn't being used. The land being used is partially "Beyond" Haunted Mansion, with the rest of villains and the entirety of Cars being the ROA area. Cars pretty much is Beyond Phase 1, given Coco nor Encanto actually happened but this did in its place. And in that case, it's a slight expansion north and largely being a replacement, not the teased area where Cars could have gone actually "Beyond" the ride. Maybe they go back to that lot for "Phase 2" (assuming Villains isn't Phase 2 already, imo it is), but we know what happens with promised Phase 2s.1. They are building beyond big thunder. That was not a farce or a lie. Cars was never sold to us as a Beyond project, it was made clear that it was Frontierland during the presentation. Villains is the first phase of Beyond construction. Yes it appears it will share some of the previous river space, but it will most certainly spill over into new plots. Multiple insiders have confirmed more will go back there they just don’t know what right now. That they’re doing Villains this way suggests a want to leave room Beyond for further future development.
2. No, they’re not going to get rid of Jungle Cruise for numerous reasons, both practical and financial.
3. Yes, I do believe when/if they pull the trigger on this Moana ride, it’ll be in the space we’ve all been discussing.
"Westward Ho!" means something totally different than "Westward, Ho!"“Beyond the Westward Ho” just didn’t test well.
This got a good chuckle out of meGoing back to this, now that we saw that "Beyond" Big Thunder Mountain was a farce and they were always just going to replace ROI and TSI instead of go through the process to expand, does anyone actually believe they'll actually expand into new land to have another boat ride instead of just replacing Jungle Cruise with their new preferred IP?
I wish Mater said "Dang Nabitt" "Dang SHOOT" to Josh D'Amaro and for IGER at D23! No International Pistachio Ice Cream World Grand Prix at Epcot, no Ornament Valley Radiator Spring's Beyond, no Florida Daytona Speedway at Tomorrowland.“Beyond the Westward Ho” just didn’t test well.
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