Mission: Space tragedy

[speck76]

and this is not directed at you....but

no matter how much we offer our support (of which I am still wondering who is getting this support.....the family probably does not read these boards, but hey, if it makes the poster feel better, feel free) it will not change what happened.

It is human nature to be curious.....and that is what this is about....I don't see anything wrong with it.

Some people are deeply effected by death, some are not. Some people get through their feelings by discussion, some do not.....everybody is different....some people around here do not seem to realize it.

 

[DisneyInTN]

I personally did not forget that.....it is just not a tragedy to me more than the motorcyclist that died yesterday in a car crash 5 miles from WDW, or the child that died because they were left in a hot car yesterday in Alabama....

None of these people mean anything to me. I don't know them, they don't know me. I certainly do not envy the parents, but I am not about to walk around in mourning because "someone died"

Death happens.....it is something that we all have in common....it is the tie that binds....eventually, everything and everyone dies....

Wow, you must be a joy to be around.

By reading 99% of the other posts, at least some people have some sympathy for the family who was enjoying their day at the most magical place on Earth when this terrible event happened. I would like to think all unexpected deaths deserve some sympathy but perhaps that's just my opinion. It's especially sad for me when it is a child who is yet to experience so much in life.

 

[Tim G]

Wow, you must be a joy to be around.

Please try to keep it nice, without sarcasm and such...

Thanks!

 

[DisneyInTN]

Please try to keep it nice, without sarcasm and such...

Thanks!

Sorry, didn't know sarcasm wasn't allowed. Based on a lot of these posts, I thought it was normal. Oh wait, was that sarcasm too? :animwink: :wave: ...kidding


I was talking about this incident with some co-workers and I asked them "How would you know if you should let your child ride an intense ride if they meet all the requirements to ride?" One of them had a good reply. She said: "She would look at the queue line and see if there are mostly adults or a mixed variety of kids and adults or just mostly kids."

That being said, I wonder how many parents let young children ride M:S even though they meet all requirements. After all, a common theme on this post is: 'As a parent, I would not let my 4-year old ride M:S'. If we looked at the queue line at M:S today (or last week) how many real young kids would be in line with their parents? Just curious. :veryconfu

 

[Shaman]

If we looked at the queue line at M:S today (or last week) how many real young kids would be in line with their parents? Just curious. :veryconfu

Not too many...I would say the average kid age is somewhere around 8-10, maybe a bit younger...I haven't seen too many 4 year olds...

If a parent has doubts about the intensity of a ride, they should do the research before letting their child ride; The could either do their hw before they go to the park (find out everything on the ride), OR they ride it before their young one(s) rides it...that way there are no complications....

That being said, there's no point in talking about what could've been done, or should've been done, because the kid is dead.

I also think the model of the ride vehicle at the front of M:S is a bit misleading to the average uninformed guest...because they think its just a fancy simulator...maybe something showing how fast the centrifuge spins would be more ideal (though I suspect people will pass right by that too)...

 

[peter11435]

Not too many...I would say the average kid age is somewhere around 8-10, maybe a bit younger...I haven't seen too many 4 year olds...

If a parent has doubts about the intensity of a ride, they should do the research before letting their child ride; The could either do their hw before they go to the park (find out everything on the ride), OR they ride it before their young one(s) rides it...that way there are no complications....

That being said, there's no point in talking about what could've been done, or should've been done, because the kid is dead.

I also think the model of the ride vehicle at the front of M:S is a bit misleading to the average uninformed guest...because they think its just a fancy simulator...maybe something showing how fast the centrifuge spins would be more ideal (though I suspect people will pass right by that too)...

They do attempt to show you how fast it will spin in both pre-show videos.

 

[Shaman]

They do attempt to show you how fast it will spin in both pre-show videos.

Not clear enough...thats in the background...

Personally I think the problem is that people don't follow directions...they look to the sides, or close their eyes during the ride...and that causes the injuries/illnesses...

 

[Disneyfalcon]

One viewpoint from a parent who let my five year old ride.

I agree with the posters who said a parent should question if a ride is appropriate for their child. Is it too scary, too noisy, etc? The parent can best make that call for their child. Mission Space is too scary for some children.

I do not however think a parent should ever have to question if the ride is safe. If my child meets the height restrictions AND does not meet any of the warning conditions, intense or not, it should be safe. If Disney says Mission Space is safe for a child that size, I will trust their judgement.

I do think that Mission Space is a safe ride I would let my children ride it again. I also trust Disney to raise the height restriction or close the ride if they find otherwise.

 

[peter11435]

Not clear enough...thats in the background...

Personally I think the problem is that people don't follow directions...they look to the sides, or close their eyes during the ride...and that causes the injuries/illnesses...

I think you are right about that. It always amazes me how many people ignore the information given in any attractions pre-show.

 

[angelofitaly69]

Wow, you must be a joy to be around. .

Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Some people are just immune to death.

 

[duchess1576]

Woah.

I heard about this horrible accident on the news yesterday, and I just had to check in here to see if there was any new info. I started reading all the posts, but my eyes got tired after page 9!!! 30 pages? Geez!

Anyway, my first thoughts on this tragedy were: By the looks of the boys' name, the family possibly didn't understand english very well and therefor didn't understand the warnings and description of what the ride actually does.

Second, if that wasn't the case, and the kid's family fully understood english, then he most likely had a hidden problem/illness. Because , obviously, any sane parent wouldn't take their child, 4 years old or 18, on this ride, knowing there was something medically wrong with the child.

And third, even if the kid was american as apple pie, and as healthy as a horse, and an adorable little "thrill-seeker", a 4 year old has no business on MS. End of story. And any parent who laughs that off and says, "well you don't know my kid" needs to think again. A 4-year old has no concept of what MS is doing. A 4-year old doesn't understand zero-gravity and g-forces and centrifuge. It literally makes me ill to think of anyone consciously putting their 4-year old on a ride that "twist and distort riders' faces". <SHUDDERS>

And lastly, it's extremely sad when a child dies. Period. Just because the child happened to die at WDW, is irrelevant. Children have died at happy places before. Just because we're all avid WDW-freaks, doesn't mean we should be carrying on like this for 30 pages. So, let's just drop it. My father died while I was in WDW, and it didn't scare me away from there forever. I plan on returning a million more times.

And that's all I have to say about that.

 

[Tim G]

I think WDW should just close completely. With the death of the woman on POTC, the deaths at DL on BTMR, the death of CMs, and now the death of a 4 year old innocent boy, it's time for TWDC to close the parks once and for all.

With over 15 Million people visiting WDW last year alone, and with 8.6 million people riding Mission:Space, these few deaths certainly means that Disney is more concerned about making money and bottom line than the safety of its guests.

To further add, you basically eat at your own risk when you eat a Disney meal. Remember that approximately 50 people were sent to the hospital with food poisoning last year from eating on Disney property, there is just too much likelyhood of a complete disaster!

Close the parks NOW!

Snap out of it TAC! :veryconfu

 

[Shaman]

I think you are right about that. It always amazes me how many people ignore the information given in any attractions pre-show.

I figure if they're saying it, sure must be important (ESPECIALLY if they're saying over and over and over again)...I guess some people like to live on the wild side...

Also, I agree with DisneyFalcon, parents shouldn't have to question whether a ride is safe. This is a reason Disney is so successful, becuase they go above and beyond to ensure the safety of park guests. Like DisneyFalcon mentioned, M:S is a safe ride, look at the statistics...Its important to know however, why the boy's body reacted the way it did on the attraction...

 

[ogryn]

I smell satire! :lol:

 

[Computer Magic]

Wow, you must be a joy to be around.

Actually he is.

 

[Shaman]

I think WDW should just close completely. With the death of the woman on POTC, the deaths at DL on BTMR, the death of CMs, and now the death of a 4 year old innocent boy, it's time for TWDC to close the parks once and for all.

With over 15 Million people visiting WDW last year alone, and with 8.6 million people riding Mission:Space, these few deaths certainly means that Disney is more concerned about making money and bottom line than the safety of its guests.

To further add, you basically eat at your own risk when you eat a Disney meal. Remember that approximately 50 people were sent to the hospital with food poisoning last year from eating on Disney property, there is just too much likelyhood of a complete disaster!

Close the parks NOW!

:lol:

Your satire exemplifies a tone that has creeped up in this thread...thank you for posting it Tom..I see where you're coming from...I too am sick of all the dumb bickering...

*shrugs*

:wave:

 

[AliciaLuvzDizne]

I smell satire! :lol:

*sniff sniff*
is that what that is?
:lol:

 

[pinkrose]

Wow, you must be a joy to be around.

Actually, he's alot of fun.

 

[Jseven]

I just want everyone to know yesterday i loaded a child whose father turned out to be 6'7. I asked the boy how old he was and he said 3 with the father confirming. I later saw them after they got out of their capsule and they had a blast. I dont want to make an over generalization about this one 3 year old but the truth is that some kids get by all the checkpoints on a daily basis. Height should not be an issue. I believe that the height restriction is at 44 inches because the middle of the seat restraint would be in the childs face if they were any shorter. I read in one of the reports that it may have been excess bleeding in his brain which may have been agitated by the ride. That I would be able to understand but it is not normal that most guests have excess blood flow in their head. Should that be the case, it could have happened in smallworld or even in their Disney hotel room.

It happened. I feel horrible for the family and im not a prayin man whatsoever but i wish the family the best of luck in their attempts to recover and move on in their lives. However, the sad truth is that we can not stop the parks from operating normaly and as such, the CMs must move on to help continue to bring the magic. It has been somewhat stressful on some of us MS castmembers even traunatizing to some, but we gotta keep coming back.

And to Strobe, take it to Oprah.

 

[S_Grise]

Thanks, S_Grise, for your support. I really do appreciate it, and in fact, I'm flattered. On the other hand, I'm sure Slade didn't mean anything, and I'm really not offended.

I'm sure he didn't, either. In fact, I've seen some very compassionate posts by him in other threads and I usually agree with him. My concern was/is that this thread is so big and out of hand that most people don't even know what has been said previously. This is a very emotional topic for most posters and really nice people are getting trampled and are trampling upon. I hate to see any tragedy turn even uglier, especially by well-meaning individuals. Slade, I'm assuming that like me, you're interested in KingStefan's opinions and that was all it meant. No offense meant to anyone by this or any other of my posts.
Warmly, Sharri