Mini Golf price increase

Monorail Lime

Well-Known Member
The wife and I do mini-golf every trip because of the (1) free pass included with the Magic Your Way room reservations. $6 per person is reasonable. :)

Perhaps the extra fundage will go back into refurbishing of the courses. Anyone else think Fantasia Gardens looks a little worn out lately?
 

SoccerMickey

Active Member
The wife and I do mini-golf every trip because of the (1) free pass included with the Magic Your Way room reservations. $6 per person is reasonable. :)

Perhaps the extra fundage will go back into refurbishing of the courses. Anyone else think Fantasia Gardens looks a little worn out lately?

Yes. Fantasia Gardens has been suffering from some shoddy upkeep lately. Some of the signs with the little poems have been replaced with generic "HOLE 12" signs and it has been that way for over a year now! And a lot of the animation just does not work anymore. I prefer WinterSummerland. Has anyone noticed that in the small cluster of holes at the end of the Winter Course there is a present with a tag that says "To Robert." The word "Robert" looks like it is over some kind of "white-out". I wonder if it used to say "To Michael" or am I just reading into things. :ROFLOL:
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
You know, whenever prices go up, the complaining hits epic levels. But very few people say 'ok, I'm done. I'm not going anymore.' If they did, they wouldn't raise prices.
Everyone wants expansion, but they don't want to pay for it. Disney is in business to make money. They aren't going to just build a $300m expansion at one park plus the random other things at other parks and then just eat the bill.

If you don't want the prices to keep going higher, the best way to show it is with your pocketbook.
You are a management apologist and have no clue what's really going on. It's not about the prices going up, it's about a lowering of quality across the board. Blah, blah, blah, blah...

Now excuse me, I have to book my next trip (but they aren't getting as much money from me, that will show them!)...:hammer:

Paying full price at the Disney putt-putts is like paying full price for two people at Sweet Tomatoes...you just don't do it very often. With the cast member, AP, and room package discounts they offer the majority of guests that will pay $12 a person is very minimal. I think the majority of people that go to FG and WSL are locals because Disney doesn't really market these to their resort guests nor provide transportation.
I haven't paid full price for putt-putt at Disney in 10 years. Six dollars is a great deal, you just have to work for it a little.

Yes. Fantasia Gardens has been suffering from some shoddy upkeep lately. Some of the signs with the little poems have been replaced with generic "HOLE 12" signs and it has been that way for over a year now! And a lot of the animation just does not work anymore. I prefer WinterSummerland. Has anyone noticed that in the small cluster of holes at the end of the Winter Course there is a present with a tag that says "To Robert." The word "Robert" looks like it is over some kind of "white-out". I wonder if it used to say "To Michael" or am I just reading into things. :ROFLOL:
The golf courses get beat up quite a bit. It seems they are constantly refurbishing them. You'll hit it one visit and everything will be great and six months later it looks like it's 30 years old.
 

MousDad

New Member
CBOMB's right. When guest spending is the only thing the Street cares about, expect the deep room discounts to become as permanent as the 3-5 free admission days you get w/ MYY.

They have the luxury of knowing that people (I'm preaching to myself here) throw money around with reckless abandon, once they get inside the parks.

My favorite story is a coworker of mine who went for a 3 day weekend a couple years back, and made the wise decision of giving his 2 teenage sons their own room card for food and souvenirs. 3 days, and around $1000 dollars later, he got the cards back. :lol:
 

kennygman

Active Member
I just wrote in another thread that Mickey Premium Ice Cream Bars also went up from $2.50 to $3.25 each!

I think we should all avoid buying gold, instead buy cases of Mickey Premium Bars and store them away in freezers. In 10 years pull them out and sell them to park guests. 30% increase this year!
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
CBOMB's right. When guest spending is the only thing the Street cares about, expect the deep room discounts to become as permanent as the 3-5 free admission days you get w/ MYY.

They have the luxury of knowing that people (I'm preaching to myself here) throw money around with reckless abandon, once they get inside the parks.

My favorite story is a coworker of mine who went for a 3 day weekend a couple years back, and made the wise decision of giving his 2 teenage sons their own room card for food and souvenirs. 3 days, and around $1000 dollars later, he got the cards back. :lol:
:ROFLOL:

I've been thinking about this complaint around the boards regarding the deep discounts on rooms, guest spending, and the "nickle and diming".

I have a very strong feeling that if you ask any average family over the past 15-20 that hasn't been at all or often in a few word, "expensive" will almost always come up. Disney has always had a reputation for being overpriced to the casual observer. Anecdotially, it is an issue I have to address in almost every converstation I have about Disney with folks.

By, at the very least, creating the illusion of discounting rooms and tickets, they are breaking down this perception. When the economy returns to a healthy state, you have a brand new customer base that, although they may be conditioned to look for deals, see the value of a Disney vacation compare to places a similar distance away. It is a gamble, as you may not retain these customers, as they only come when there are discounts.

With regards to "nickel and diming" that is thrown around nowadays as much as Walmarting and "TDO eats puppies", I look at it like this: You don't complain about the grocery store when they increase prices on certain products. You don't complain when the price of shirts and pants goes up. All of these things are part of a whole and yet most don't equate this to "nickel and diming". Prices go up, even in a bad economy. It's a fact of life.
 

MousDad

New Member
You don't complain about the grocery store when they increase prices on certain products. You don't complain when the price of shirts and pants goes up. Prices go up, even in a bad economy. It's a fact of life.

I think we all know that Disney blows the inflation rate out of the water, jake. :lol:
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
I think we all know that Disney blows the inflation rate out of the water, jake. :lol:
That's true, but so has any number of products over the past years ranging from milk to gas.

I guess I don't see why Disney should be bound by only increasing prices in accordance to the inflation rate. As I repeatedly said, they are a company that deals a completely descretionary product. They can raise prices to their own detriment if they so choose. Perhaps it is simply that Disney has actually been undervalued all these years.

I know it is information that none of us has, but I think it would be interesting to see average vacation spending in relation to inflation over the past 20 years or so.
 

COProgressFan

Well-Known Member
With regards to "nickel and diming" that is thrown around nowadays as much as Walmarting and "TDO eats puppies", I look at it like this: You don't complain about the grocery store when they increase prices on certain products. You don't complain when the price of shirts and pants goes up. All of these things are part of a whole and yet most don't equate this to "nickel and diming". Prices go up, even in a bad economy. It's a fact of life.

I don't think its inappropriate to complain about anything if the price has gone up and what you get for your money goes down. Using your grocery store example, yes, I would complain if the price of certain food items goes up while the size of the package has gone down (which has been happening a lot lately). Using a WDW example, when the price of so many food items has gone up, and the quality (cuts of meat, variety, etc.) and portion size has gone down, then yes, it is also appropriate to complain.

I think the gist of the increasing prices argument is that we are getting less VALUE for our money than we used to. Fewer people would complain about high prices if they felt they still got a lot for their money, or in Disney's buzz words "exceeded guest expectations", but many, many people feel they really don't do that as much any more.
 

bgraham34

Well-Known Member
I don't think its inappropriate to complain about anything if the price has gone up and what you get for your money goes down. Using your grocery store example, yes, I would complain if the price of certain food items goes up while the size of the package has gone down (which has been happening a lot lately). Using a WDW example, when the price of so many food items has gone up, and the quality (cuts of meat, variety, etc.) and portion size has gone down, then yes, it is also appropriate to complain.

I think the gist of the increasing prices argument is that we are getting less VALUE for our money than we used to. Fewer people would complain about high prices if they felt they still got a lot for their money, or in Disney's buzz words "exceeded guest expectations", but many, many people feel they really don't do that as much any more.

I agree with you and well put. Disney has become even more corporate in the last few years trying to nickel and dime everyone. If people are upset with rising prices you should say something. You might think it does not help but if enough people do it, an effect may happen.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
I don't think its inappropriate to complain about anything if the price has gone up and what you get for your money goes down. Using your grocery store example, yes, I would complain if the price of certain food items goes up while the size of the package has gone down (which has been happening a lot lately). Using a WDW example, when the price of so many food items has gone up, and the quality (cuts of meat, variety, etc.) and portion size has gone down, then yes, it is also appropriate to complain.

I think the gist of the increasing prices argument is that we are getting less VALUE for our money than we used to. Fewer people would complain about high prices if they felt they still got a lot for their money, or in Disney's buzz words "exceeded guest expectations", but many, many people feel they really don't do that as much any more.
I never said it was inappropriate, just the constant and typical reaction is, well, constant and typical.

You guys are really going to ride the "cuts of meat" argument into the ground, aren't you? I can't think of any examples were actual portion size has been reduced, perhaps I'm just not eating at the right place. Sanaa, Kona, Captain's Grille all provide more than enough for me to eat. I frequent those places almost every visit and have actually seen an upswing in quality.

I will admit that I avoid the obvious places to eat because they are, well, obvious.

Value is subjective as it is based a large part on perception of quality.

I also honestly doubt that fewer people would complain about raising prices regardless of quality.

I agree with you and well put. Disney has become even more corporate in the last few years trying to nickel and dime everyone.
It's not nickel and diming. Everything has a different price. They are simply raising their prices, as everyone does every year. The only differences is we hear about each price increase seperately and the perception has changed.

If people are upset with rising prices you should say something. You might think it does not help but if enough people do it, an effect may happen.
Or stop going. And I don't mean that in the "poor people shouldn't go" or "one less person in line in front of me". Removing thousands of dollars from Disney is more effective than a letter or even reducing your per visit spending.
 

markjohns1

Member
What was the price before? Most off-property mini golf courses are $10-11 per round for adults. Those places have mini golf as their only draw, too, so Disney's prices seem just fine.

As far as getting less product at a higher price, I'd agree but I don't think they cut the course down to 15 holes yet.
 

COProgressFan

Well-Known Member
I also honestly doubt that fewer people would complain about raising prices regardless of quality.
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Some people will always complain no matter what. But most of the online "doom and gloomers" (as some would call them) wouldn't complain about the drastically rising prices of tickets/food/merch/etc if the quality of the product was always getting better or, heck, even just staying the same.

If the MK had been meticulously maintained the past five or so years, there were new high quality attractions and entertainment, a day parade that wasn't recycled and running for 8+ years, multiple dining locations weren't shuttered, Space Mountain didn't become an embarassment, and the Fantasyland expansion was announced two years ago, I think people's perception of quality and value would be quite different.

Still, putting things in perspective, paying 12 bucks for mini golf really isn't a big deal, that truly is the least of some of WDW's problem's right now! :cool:
 

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