Trip Report MILESTONE TRIP! First Orlando Visit, Final Disney Park!

THE TIME HAS COME!

In just about a week, I will be starting my very first ever trip to Orlando…and all therein that may be explored.

As the title suggests, among other milestones, this trip will see me visiting my 12th and final Disney Park – Magic Kingdom itself! I have traveled extensively, with all the other Disney Destinations worldwide under my belt, yet somehow I have so far resisted the allures of the Vacation Kingdom. In this week days leading up to my departure, I’ll be going over “why not yet,” “why now,” my itinerary, maybe even soliciting some travel advice.

But for now…Who’s going?

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Me after a hike at Bryce Canyon (the real Big Thunder). My beard is much calmer now.

Just me. Doug. Typically I’m a regular of the Imagineering forums, but I'm just a dilettante on these Trip Report boards. Traveling solo, as is my wont.

Where? Universal’s Endless Summer Resort for three nights, then the Walt Disney World Swan for like a week.

When? September 21st – October 1st.

The broadest plan is to see as much of Orlando as I can (both Disney and beyond) in the week+ prior to Magic Kingdom’s 50th. That means plans to see Walt Disney World, Universal, SeaWorld, Busch Gardens, even the Fun Spots.

Over ambitious, perhaps? Sure it is, but I’ve done my research, and I know my travel style and what I'm capable of! Let’s do this!
 
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D Hulk

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My continued World Showcase loop was hitting its stride. It seems like the most successful international pavilions all lie due right from the American Adventure. The Morocco Pavilion appeared next, offering something delightfully distinct from the mostly predictable country choices so far. (Of WS's nations, I only haven't been to Morocco & Arendelle.) Best as I can tell, this is the only pavilion which is actually sponsored by its host country; that otherwise seems to be an apocryphal guest assumption.

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The Morocco Pavilion was strong. It had interesting design. I ventured inwards through the covered alleyway souks, well off from the Lagoon promenade beaten track. In a fairly small acreage, the designers from Morocco & Imagineering have together created a reasonably convincing marketplace. There are enough tight corners and blind alleys here to suggest a larger lived-in community. Think Galaxy's Edge or DisnyeSea's Arabian Coast.

As the last WS pavilion to be built, Morocco even sees the Imagineers veering away from their idealized designs. The souk walls bore signs of weathering, with chipped plaster, exposed mud bricks, and other observational details...like a dry run for Animal Kingdom. That contributed to making this feel less like someplace in a theme park.

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I still found the Morocco Pavilion to be lacking in content...like most WS pavilions. The intriguing walkways come to a dead end early on, since there's a great big old table service restaurant dominating 50% of the site. I would have enjoyed an extra gallery or two exploring Moroccan arts or culture. A very beautiful pavilion, but without much under the hood.

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The France Pavilion arguably overcompensates for those shortcomings. This place was simply packed...and I'm not even counting Ratatouille in this assessment.

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A Francophile guest would likely cherish the France Pavilion like I cherished the Japan Pavilion. They share similar strengths. The mazelike layout got me twisted and turned around a few times. There are multiple tiny storefronts mixed into more than one city block space, all of them unique. Photos really elevate the design, emphasizing specific smaller picture-perfect tableaus. This place is cluttered almost to a fault...not that I'm complaining in the slightest. That's my preferred type of park design.

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I deeply, truly wanted to experience Impressions de France, the much-revered travelogue film anchoring the pavilion. I couldn't find it during an initial exploration up and down the Parisian boulevards. The cast members were uniformly too busy handling Ratatouille passholder previews, so they couldn't help. Ultimately I consulted the app, only to discover...showtimes began at 6!?!

Apparently, the same theater hosts a Beauty and the Beast Sing-a-Long during the daytime. Several WDW attraction rankings which I've seen since my trip all uniformly rank this dead last at the resort! They say it's merely a repurposed DVD extra? I chose to skip it. But I'd be back for Impressions!

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I did try, pointlessly, to get a ride on Ratatouille. The signs said that passholders could preview Ratatouille ahead of its official October 1st premiere, but they didn't say which passholders. So I marched on up and presented my Six Flags Gold Plus Member card. That didn't work. :cry:

This wasn't a huge loss. I got to ride Ratatouille at Walt Disney Studios Park in Paris many moons ago. That was a solid ride, the best in its park even. Epcot's version is supposed to be a near clone. It will be a good supporting attraction for Epcot, especially deep in World Showcase where more rides are desperately needed.

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Some more pretty photos of France. The late afternoon sunlight gave the plentiful foliage a lovely warm glow.

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Zipadeelady

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Hulk, I've been enjoying your photography, but I've stopped reading your hateful, negative text. Not cool, dude.
These are just the posters opinions and as much I don't like to see someone not liking everything Disney I do feel that there are valid points to his opinions when looking at the world showcase through the eyes of someone that is supposedly a world traveler (I'm taking your word @D Hulk that you're not pulling photos off of the web from your "travels" and you've truly been to many places). Plus if you've read his AK and DHS days he was very positive so this isn't like the News and Rumors threads where everyone complains about Disney before they've even experienced what they are complaining about.
 

D Hulk

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I don't read them as 'hateful' but rather, honest. To each their own.
These are just the posters opinions and as much I don't like to see someone not liking everything Disney I do feel that there are valid points to his opinions when looking at the world showcase through the eyes of someone that is supposedly a world traveler (I'm taking your word @D Hulk that you're not pulling photos off of the web from your "travels" and you've truly been to many places). Plus if you've read his AK and DHS days he was very positive so this isn't like the News and Rumors threads where everyone complains about Disney before they've even experienced what they are complaining about.
As with anything (everything) in life we do not all have the same opinions or impressions of stuff.

I appreciate @D Hulk 's view and assessment - I do not completely agree - but I am mostly inline with his thinging.

So I suggest that :


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and we should just

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Max
Thank you all. I really don't mean to come across as negative. I strive for honesty, and I've tried to justify my opinion when I know it goes against the grain. It's been agonizing me at length, the fact that Epcot wasn't as magical for me as it is for so many. Trust me, I would love to experience Epcot at its best. Plus, as @Zipitidoda points out, I truly enjoyed DAK & DHS. Magic Kingdom coming up was even better!

Guess I'd better prove my "world traveler" bonafides, though. I've traveled only enough to realize how little I've traveled. Here’s a chronicle of travel selfies (and beard growth)...

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Hong Kong
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Huangshan

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Shanghai

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Angkor

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Serengeti

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Kuala Lumpur

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Istanbul

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Delhi

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Bryce Canyon​
 

D Hulk

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Right then, now where were we in Epcot?

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Ah yes, just approaching the UK Pavilion!

I was nearing the very end of the lengthy World Showcase Lagoon loop, which is reportedly 1.2 miles long. It's longer than that, too, when you're taking detours to peek into every shop and to traipse down every avenue. In that time, without a pause to eat or drink (except for bottled water I had with me), with only the occasional attraction-driven seating pause such as at The American Adventure, I began to grow mighty exhausted. More exhausted, in a way, than I get on a ride-driven park visit.

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I started to slack off on my stated battleplan of giving every nook & cranny of every pavilion a proper look-see. That was becoming more onerous with the constant donning and removing of my plague mask. (Temporary pandemic requirements.) Interiors like restaurants felt uninviting since I wasn't dining in them. So while I did at least duck into the UK's tea shoppe, I didn't explore the pavilion as much as I should have.

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I did at least make it to the pavilion's cul-de-sac terminus, which revealed a gentle flower garden scene. Mary Poppins is hidden somewhere in the photo above. Can you find her?

Clearly, with the tea garden and the cozy boulevard outlining the various distinct styles of British architecture, the UK Pavilion is a place I could maybe find charming in a different mood. I find the UK itself to be charming. Something about being sober in Epcot made me anxious.

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My oh-so-brief tour of the Canada Pavilion was as follows: Found a shop lookin' like Knott's Mystery Lodge. Climbed some stairs to walk around a substantially scaled-down homage to Quebec's Chateau Frontenac. Discovered a dead end balcony with views of some rockwork and the Soarin' show building.

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There was a tranquil garden space far below, but at this stage, the sheer number of steps & stairs involved for an unknown payoff...it dissuaded me. I was ready to temporarily turn in the towel until dinnertime. Once the wall of exhaustion hits, it hits hard. Odd that I found Epcot - arguably Disney's most relaxing park out of all 12 - the most difficult one in which to relax. The frat-like Food & Wine crowds, plus the heat, all that had something to do with it.

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I proceeded again past the Canada & UK to reach the International Gateway. My goal now: The Swan, where a Nalgene and a bed awaited. Like with DHS yesterday, a late-afternoon break was definitely called for.

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A Friendship Boat arrived nearly instantly, to my good fortune. The hot, humid air was unrelentingly still while waiting on the drydock or on the motionless watercraft. Once it got moving, the gentle airflow felt 10x nicer.

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I knew already from experience & observations that the entire Friendship trek from Epcot to Swan would take as long as walking on foot, if not longer. So once the dreaded muggy unmoving air returned at the Boardwalk dock, I decided to simply walk the remaining distance. The boat still had a Yacht & Beach Club layover to go. Walking again felt nice enough, just for the change of pace. I desperately anticipated reaching my room ASAP.

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Photo time signatures suggest I was only back at the Swan for 90 minutes and less. Memories begin to fade now 1.5 months after the trip's end. Surely I must've cooled down and showered and changed. I took no more time to rest than I needed, since despite my critiques I truly was eager to return to Epcot at nightfall and see it anew. I reflected on what I liked and disliked about Epcot, especially about World Showcase. I tried to mentally reconcile my iconoclastic opinion with WS's prevailing praise. As this recent Trip Report shows, that has been torturous and unpleasant for me.

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The Friendship Boats ferried me back over to the International Gateway. There was no time crunch, and I didn't want to work up a sweat. There was an hour to go before my dinner reservation in the Japan Pavilion, there was Impressions de France still to be seen, and the quickly fading sunlight meant that World Showcase's evening lighting would soon be coming to life.​
 

D Hulk

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I reentered World Showcase through the International Gateway around 7:30. It seems crazy now, in mid-November, that it was still somewhat light outside that late in the day. I had 45 minutes until a dinner reservation in the Japan Pavilion, and a desire to sightsee along the way.

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The nighttime brings out the best in World Showcase. The magical glow of street lamps creates the bucolic parklike atmosphere which seems to be a big WS selling point. Darkness erases the intrusive sights of other countries and Future World show buildings (with welcome exceptions like Spaceship Earth all aglow like a celestial axis), making it all the easier to get lost - in all senses of that word - in top tier pavilions like France.

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Though of course I lingered a bit to see how these familiar sights looked during dusk, I still made Impressions de France a priority. Wish they didn't replace it with a Beauty and the Beast show during the day. Intermittent showtimes meant a bit more time to seek out France's nooks and crannies...and a bit of time to appreciate Impressions' theater lobby gallery space, which boasted exhibits dedicated to the history of French theater. The gallery featured genuine period costumes from ballet productions over a century ago, with explanatory plaques providing context. These little exhibits are one of the best things about World Showcase!

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Impressions de France is, ultimately, a film-based attraction. That means it isn't a headliner, nor is it repeatable (not by Disneylander standards). Judged on its own terms, it's a winner, more artfully constructed than the comparable Reflections of China. Impressions makes good use of a classical Camille Saint-Saens score, and features an impressionistic montage of French scenery which feels like the filmic version of French impressionist painting. It was warm and thoughtful, without the emotional distance of Reflections. I'm glad I finally caught this.

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A post-show shop led out to a hidden-away Parisian alleyway which I hadn't yet seen. This pavilion is impressively filled with discoveries! Sometimes the small plot of land made some scenes, like the gift shop above, feel small in comparison with their genuine French counterparts. But usually, the France Pavilion designers made good use of their limited acreage to suggest a far larger, far more vibrant setting. Taken on its own - and removed from the larger World Showcase equation - the France Pavilion reminded me of Disneyland's New Orleans Square...high praise!

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The Morocco Pavilion looked nice in the nighttime, too, as did the Japan Pavilion. I spent less time revisiting these spaces. My dinner reservation was coming up. I was growing extremely hungry - this would be my first food since breakfast - so I made a rushed beeline towards check-in.

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I had grand plans to somehow do another World Showcase loop following dinner, but that was not meant to be. I totally screwed up the park hours! Dinner at Teppan Edo would be my final Epcot experience for the day.​
 

cgersic

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You weren't kidding about the facial hair growth! You take great selfies! As a long time, major fan of Epcot, I hear a lot of truth in the critiques, so it's very hard to take offense. I don't think any of us want to see it where it is today. As you already know, there was a lot of entertainment missing from Epcot, and that's always been one of my favorite parts about it. Thanks for sharing your travels as well.
 

D Hulk

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Although most theme parks worth their salt offer more restaurants than you could hope to experience in one day, or several, Epcot is unique. Here, dining is a major attraction, a reason to visit, an E-ticket unto itself.

Epcot features seemingly dozens upon dozens of table service restaurants. Disney's other top tier sit down establishments - DisneySea's Magellan's, California Adventure's Carthay Circle, Animal Kingdom's Tiffins - as fantastic as they are, they exist as breaks in between attractions. They aren't the main reason to visit. Epcot flips that equation.

With so many World Showcase restaurants enjoying similar reputations, I chose based on cuisine. I chose Japanese. I chose Teppan Edo. (Anticipating months in advance what sort of food I'd be in the mood for, a common Disney World problem.) Teppan Edo sits out-of-the way above the Mitsukoshi Department Store. The check-in lobby and surrounding balcony offer great World Showcase views.

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It turns out that Teppan Edo is a hibachi grill restaurant. This means that 6-8 people sit together at a single grill station, where your own assigned chef prepares personalized meals before your very eyes. It's a classic dinner-and-a-show! Like at a Benihana, which Teppan Edo largely resembles, the chef performs crowd-pleasing tricks throughout the meal - forming a steaming volcano from onions, flipping huge servings of airborne fried rice into bowls, creating gigantic fireballs. This is no Six Flags corndog cart.

Though sushi and other treats were on the menu, I went with Teppan Edo's specialty...I went with the hibachi. I selected the Asakusa - a combo of grilled steak and shrimp, served with rice, garden salad, and udon. To accompany this, I also got a 20 oz Sapporo (would've preferred an Asahi :cry:) and a side of edamame. Alone among the 7 seated at out station, I used chopsticks. :p

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Dining alongside me were a young couple, and a family. Early on, our chef Kento (an Anaheim native!) asked where we were all from. The couple were locals, the family were Ohioans. (Home of Cedar Point! 😍) Asked for my hometown, I went with "Disneyland." Figured that'd be a conversation starter.

Oh my, it was! The Ohioans immediately blurted out "I can't see why anyone would visit that place." Well okay then, thanks for instantly insulting my home & Kento’s home, guys! :mad: Not that they'd ever bothered visiting Disneyland, mind you, no, this was their 20th or so time to Disney World, the only place in the world apparently worth visiting. World Showcase’s message was completely lost on them.

Looking to correct the conversation, I explained that I was on a mission to see all 12 Disney theme parks worldwide. I said that tomorrow I'd be visiting Magic Kingdom, and then I'd be 12 for 12. Well then, they asked, what was my favorite Disney theme park...They were obviously seeking validation (they clearly wanted me to say "Epcot.") I decided to go with Tokyo DisneySea - an honest and neutral and Japanese answer - and the family looked flabbergasted. Personally insulted. Why how could I, they'd never even heard of such a dinky place, so obviously it was lame and I was wrong! Snort!

I spent the rest of the meal chatting with the young couple about baseball.

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Nine o'clock struck, and the sound of explosions erupted from World Showcase Lagoon. What, so soon?!

I'd noticed on previous nights that IllumiNations (that's what it still was, right?) happened at 11. Could hear it from the Swan. Foolishly, I figured that'd be the same tonight...figured that Epcot would stay open until 11, like before. Nope, on Mondays, Epcot closes at 9! :facepalm:

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Of course I wanted to rush out onto the restaurant balcony and catch this endangered show! And of course I couldn't! That would be a dine-and-dash. I had to pay my bill first, and by the time that got settled, IllumiNations was over. Weep! Weep! :cry: I sulked back inside Teppan Edo to polish off my remaining Asakusa...I ate the slowest among our company, savoring the meal.

Then I roamed off into the night, with Epcot technically closed for the day. That put to rest any plans of completing a clockwise World Showcase loop, so instead I headed left on a slow, casual walk towards International Gateway.

Three days from now, I would return to Epcot to more fully appreciate its food (and drink).

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For now, though, how did I find Teppan Edo?

Perfectly serviceable. It was a middle-of-the-road hibachi restaurant, not too different from the Benihana in the local shopping center. The food was tasty, it was Japanese, but it was also undeniably safe...definitely designed for a Western palette. Which is what Epcot ought to do, since it aims to introduce Americans to the world's cultures and cuisines. Good for theme park food, average on a global scale. I would be a fool to come in expecting dishes on par with the best of Osaka or Kyoto, for example. For vacationing families who don't have many international dining options available at home, World Showcase seems to be a grand gustatory extravaganza.

In short, Epcot's food wasn't for me, but it does exactly what it needs to do.

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I covered the distance between the International Gateway and the Swan on foot. With the night's lower temperatures, and after a lengthy sit down at Teppan Edo, I didn't mind the brisk stroll. Plus, with Epcot ending earlier than anticipated, I wanted to burn off my excess adrenaline at the Boardwalk.

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Stop #1 was the Boardwalk Bakery. I grabbed a great big ol' hunk o' cinnamon bread. That would be breakfast tomorrow.

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Stop #2 was the Abracadabar, for a nightcap. All I had was an Old Fashioned...comfort food in booze form. Sleep would come easily this night. Mmm...

Which was perfect, since tomorrow was a HUGE day. Tomorrow was Magic Kingdom! Shortly, I would be entering my 12th and final Disney park. My Walt Disney World journey was building to this climactic moment. I'm very happy to say that Magic Kingdom lived up to its hype! I loved every moment of it! :D
 

ferbtones

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Yay for you liking the UK as that is my home. 😁

And double yay as 🤞🏻I will be visiting your ‘home’ next July for the first time ever.

I would love permission to pick your brains in the future.

Your take on Disney World, which I have visited on 7 separate occasions, is very honest and from the heart which I really appreciate. But your perspective has shown me things I missed, and things I miss, about it all.

Thanks for sharing.
 

ArmoredRodent

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The geodesic ball is an abstract, symbolic form which implies a whole ton of concepts, from the sheer awe a child might feel, to adult thoughts about Buckminster Fuller's humanist philosophies.
where a Nalgene and a bed awaited.

One of these is not like the other. :oops: But I'm glad the Nalgene will finally get some love after you so callously left it in the room in favor of a [shudder] regular water bottle.
 

Songbird76

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I sidled up to the counter in Jock Lindsey's Hangar Bar. Initially, I just caught my breathed after that needless half mile schlep to get here. Then I ordered a Tusker lager, a drink which is heavily featured over at Animal Kingdom and which was a common feature of my safari trip through Kenya. Light, refreshing, crisp, cool. Good stuff.

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Around noontime, Jock Lindsey's counter otherwise was home to several off-duty cast members, each trading war stories and exchanging long-established inside jokes with the bartender. These cast members were 50% world weary cynics, and 50% chipper "aw shucks" naïfs just like when they're on Disney's clock. A smattering of couples, young and old, filled out the hangar space.

If I may, I'd like to pause with another all-purpose Disney World complaint. You love it! Everywhere throughout the resort, Disney's air conditioning was never especially strong, certainly nothing like Universal's glorious AC. A cost-cutting measure, maybe? While going indoors at Disney provided a respite from Florida's heat & humidity, it was never able to cool me down. Meaning that once I heated up for the day - which I'd already done on this day - I would remain uncomfortable. Disney could fix this problem immediately, and it would make a visit significantly more enjoyable.

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Jock Lindsey's was awash with Imagineered details and Indy Easter Eggs, like many of the world's best theme park eateries. Disney Springs felt unworthy of this place. So much to see, more than I saw...didn't want to intrude on other patrons. A sign declaring artifacts no longer accepted as payment. Temple of Doom voodoo dolls. Postcards and stamps the world over connecting Jock Lindsey to the larger S.E.A. mythos. Jet fuel containers repurposed as beer taps. Propeller fans. So much good stuff!

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After leaving Jock Lindsey's, I pretty much limited my Disney Springs exploration to The Landing. I was already too tired to consider seeing The Marketplace or Town Center, et cetera, and besides, The Landing was food & drink central - certainly the things which most interested me. Hulk doesn't shop! So I took a circuitous route towards Raglan Road, so that I could at least catch a glimpse of places like Paddlefish along the way.

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Disney Springs has a good amount of tucked away spots and soft landscaping. These moments contrast well against the panoramic views across the lagoon. While Disney World's overall expanse sickened me every time I tried getting from place to place, the magic slowly crept back when firmly immersed within a single environment. The "Disney Bubble" effect which people describe for the resort as a whole never happened for me. I felt the Bubble in Disney Springs, and in the parks, but rarely outside of those centerpiece spots.

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I had a 12:45 brunch reservation at Raglan Road, Disney Springs' Irish pub which came highly recommended. Saturday brunch is especially coveted, since it includes live performances...not an easy thing to find with all the present staffing shortages and reduced streetmosphere.

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While Raglan Road's interior is necessarily oversized to accommodate Disney World crowds - not nearly as intimate as the greatest pubs - they did a good job approaching that intimacy in a dining hall setting. I was seated near the very center, right up against that central platform seen in the image above. This provided me with an ideal, unobstructed view of the musicians' stage. I thoroughly enjoyed a guitar and fiddle duo singing traditional Irish folk songs.

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I also immediately destroyed the chintzy dimestore frame holding the QR code menu. No matter. Ignoring the safe American dishes on the menu, I went with the most Irish options available - a shepherd's pie and a Smithwick's ale, lighter than a stout to suit the sunny weather, but still appropriately Irish. The pie wasn't super filling on its own, but the complementary bread basket - full of varied, lightly sweet options - helped supplement that. The flavors were a little on the safe side, which is typical of resort food in general, but wholly satisfying.

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About halfway through the meal, the stage musicians took a break. Shortly afterwards, a great terrible pounding started up right behind my head. That central platform which I was seated alongside? Yeah, that's a stage, and it had become the setting for some Riverdance-type Irish dancing. I quickly shifted to the opposite side of the table for a way-too-close front row view of the performance.

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To stretch out my time here before again venturing out into the wretched outdoors, I ordered a bread & butter pudding for dessert. In the time it took to receive and devour, the live acts again switched out and the musicians again returned to the stage.

I concluded brunch around 1:20. Already two pints in, I then decided to make the day into a bar crawl - perhaps unwisely, with how the sun had already affected me - so I set out into Disney Springs seeking my next libation...​
Wow.....either they really changed the AC in the last couple of years or you are a yeti! When we went in 2016 and 2019, we had to carry sweatshirts with us in July/August because every restaurant was FREEZING. We froze even WITH the sweatshirts, and I heard other guests complaining to managers, or amongst themselves in bathrooms about how cold it was indoors. I was told by my friends who live in Kissimmee that that's a common thing there. Locals know to bring sweaters with them because the AC is always set really high. We brought fleece sweatshirts last time and still got cold in some of the restaurants, though not as bad as in 2016. We ate at T-rex and were seated right next to the grill area and we were still sooooo cold. Even my husband was cold and he almost never needs a coat. It sounds like Disney needs to find a happy medium.
 

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