microsoft dropping windows xp

prberk

prberk

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Corey P said:
BTW Bought a cheap laptop to stream video and play internet video on any TV I wanted, it came with WIN 8. What a pain in The a**. I have security concerns about WIN 8, you have to retrain yourself for the simplest of tasks. Example find the control panel, took me 15 minutes first time around. Stupid program has everything automated so it's always updating and doing something to slow it's self down. Non stop updates on Win 8.

You can still buy Win 7 on Dell computers etc.
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Guy at Staples said lots of returns so far for Windows 8 based PCs and laptops.

I think that MS got clouded by the rise of iPad and other entertainment-based touch-screens, and forgot its bread-and-butter in the office work environment. Offices don't have time for the panels and other craziness that make Windows 8 not office-friendly. Just trying to compare and use data from an Excel and a Word docuement at the same time seems unusually complicated in Windows 8.

And right now the church presentation software I use on my laptop (SongShow Plus) does not support 8. And we need a new laptop for it. So we will have to special order it with 7 from Dell.

What a mess. And all because they are worried about Apple, I think.

Seemed like the smart thing to do would have been to make Windows 8 just like 7 except to have touch-screen options for opening and using programs on the screen.
 
Z

Zman-ks

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Tom Morrow said:
If all that computer does is run that slide show, then there would be no reason to upgrade it.
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Still should upgrade past WinXP....no security patches.
 
dcibrando

dcibrando

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I work in IT for a large corporation... first off... with windows 8, NO ON HAS to use the metro screen...windows 8 simply gives users the windows 7 desktop experience or the metro touch interface with ways to easily switch back and forth.

for those that want the start button back or have it boot directly into the old desktop screen (which I think the enterprise version allows a registry setting for) you can - also check out Start8 which I use at home myself

I personally like Windows 8 over an iPad because it gives me more options, especially in the enterprise. Too many people these days their pants over Apple anything. I own an iPhone and I enjoy it... but it has flaws just like everything else does from any company. I'm convinced that with some people if apple come out with the iDirt (clump of dirt with the apple logo) people would need a wet nap and pay $200 for it
 
Master Yoda

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prberk said:
Guy at Staples said lots of returns so far for Windows 8 based PCs and laptops.

I think that MS got clouded by the rise of iPad and other entertainment-based touch-screens, and forgot its bread-and-butter in the office work environment. Offices don't have time for the panels and other craziness that make Windows 8 not office-friendly. Just trying to compare and use data from an Excel and a Word docuement at the same time seems unusually complicated in Windows 8.

And right now the church presentation software I use on my laptop (SongShow Plus) does not support 8. And we need a new laptop for it. So we will have to special order it with 7 from Dell.

What a mess. And all because they are worried about Apple, I think.

Seemed like the smart thing to do would have been to make Windows 8 just like 7 except to have touch-screen options for opening and using programs on the screen.
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I think this is largely due to the ignorance of the average consumer. From the metro interface of Windows 8, you have to click a single button to be back the the familiar Windows 7 like desktop. Download a $5 app and you can ditch the Metro interface all together and even get your start button back. Granted it would have been nice to have something akin to a desktop/touch screen option included with Windows 8, but it literally takes seconds to get one without MS.

Just because a piece of software does not support Windows 8 does not mean that it will not run under it. It simply means it has not been tested for it. None of the engineering and Cad software I use supports Windows 8 and all of them run just fine under it. My engineering software actually runs better with it.
 
NowInc

NowInc

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Its not about to get updated for a ton of reasons...not limited to:

Cost (Upgrades aren't free...and even worse if they were to make the mistake of switching to apple as they are FAR FAR FAR more expensive than a PC solution)

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"...to upgrade an entire theme parks worth of systems..even from windows to windows..could create more problems than its worth..if anything they will put new OS's on new systems over time...as replacements.......eventually. Even if its running slow..it still works.

It would be safe to assume that these systems are overall part of a closed network to a main server..of which im sure is pretty patched up. So security patches (and virus threats) would be pretty much pointless. These are not operated by guests.

Since its running on custom software, actually "seeing windows" is not really something they have to worry about. Outdated or not, the "user" end of the system will be the same.


And as a side note...I have had super luck with MS support for YEARS. (The few times I have actually had to contact them)..in fact a lot more luck than I've had with Apple (Its broke? Well we have this new system you should buy!). Its always just a matter of preference (before anyone goes accusing me to be one sided...i use windows 7, 8, mac, and linux on a daily basis)...each has their place..and not one is "significantly better" than the other.
 
ratherbeinwdw

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Master Yoda said:
I think this is largely due to the ignorance of the average consumer. From the metro interface of Windows 8, you have to click a single button to be back the the familiar Windows 7 like desktop. Download a $5 app and you can ditch the Metro interface all together and even get your start button back. Granted it would have been nice to have something akin to a desktop/touch screen option included with Windows 8, but it literally takes seconds to get one without MS.

Just because a piece of software does not support Windows 8 does not mean that it will not run under it. It simply means it has not been tested for it. None of the engineering and Cad software I use supports Windows 8 and all of them run just fine under it. My engineering software actually runs better with it.
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Would you tell me what app to download to get the start button back?
 
luv

luv

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I love my Apple products.

Here's what I had to do to make it work perfectly: Plug it in.

Ta-Da!

No calling, no paying for stuff, no downloading, no support. No "uninstall and reinstall". Never needed it.

I am so glad I got rid of Windows. No problems since. :)

And maybe it isn't perfect. And maybe (likely) I use it because because I don't know a lot about computers. Don't care! It works!

So you all go on ahead and say how dumb we Apple users are while you fix stuff, wait for updates, tweak things, help each other, etc. I'll stick to being blissfully ignorant and use something that always works.

Love Apple. It costs more, but it's worth every penny.
 
BoarderPhreak

BoarderPhreak

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If all it does is run the POS - and isn't internet accessible (can't see why it would be) then who cares? It's a POS. Err, I meant POS. ;)

It would surely cost a significant amount to "update" every POS terminal with something like, say, Linux (or other, even embedded OS) and all the back-end tools/infrastructure - more than it's worth. Though it's curious how the new RFID stuff is working - unless it presents itself as a simple credit card reader to the POS terminal. Depending on how old the POS terminal is... What is it? Serial? Eek. USB on newer, likely.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

This, however, is an embarrassment...

 
Master Yoda

Master Yoda

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luv said:
I love my Apple products.

Here's what I had to do to make it work perfectly: Plug it in.

Ta-Da!

No calling, no paying for stuff, no downloading, no support. No "uninstall and reinstall". Never needed it.

I am so glad I got rid of Windows. No problems since. :)

And maybe it isn't perfect. And maybe (likely) I use it because because I don't know a lot about computers. Don't care! It works!

So you all go on ahead and say how dumb we Apple users are while you fix stuff, wait for updates, tweak things, help each other, etc. I'll stick to being blissfully ignorant and use something that always works.

Love Apple. It costs more, but it's worth every penny.
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Two words. Mountain Lion.
 
luv

luv

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Master Yoda said:
Two words. Mountain Lion.
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I don't even know what you mean, lol. I truly know nothing about computers.

I just know I had gazillions of problems with my computer when I bought whatever Windows thing it was that everyone hated and had so much trouble - they talked about it on the financial shows - and I just gave up.

Got an Apple computer and literally all I did was plug the thing in. Never had another issue. The hardest part was plugging in one cord. That was nice. One cord with one plug! It was quite a change, lol.

Oh, I had to put batteries in the keyboard, too. Lol, that's it!

So, if you were agreeing, good for you. If you were attempting to prove me wrong, I'll concede the point! I don't even care! I have a computer that has given me zero problems and nothing but good stuff! :)
 
Master Yoda

Master Yoda

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luv said:
I don't even know what you mean, lol. I truly know nothing about computers.
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Mountain Lion was a recent Mac OS update that has some pretty major problems.

luv said:
I just know I had gazillions of problems with my computer when I bought whatever Windows thing it was that everyone hated and had so much trouble - they talked about it on the financial shows - and I just gave up.

Got an Apple computer and literally all I did was plug the thing in. Never had another issue. The hardest part was plugging in one cord. That was nice. One cord with one plug! It was quite a change, lol.

Oh, I had to put batteries in the keyboard, too. Lol, that's it!

So, if you were agreeing, good for you. If you were attempting to prove me wrong, I'll concede the point! I don't even care! I have a computer that has given me zero problems and nothing but good stuff! :)
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Give it time. There is no such animal as a perfect computer.
 

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