DHS Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

Kman101

Kman101

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MansionButler84 said:
I think Martin sometimes suffers from his vast knowledge. When you know what a project could have been, what was cut, and what it still cost, your worldview shifts. I suffer from this affliction in TSL. And maybe he just doesn’t like the ride.
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All very good points :)

It's fine if he doesn't like it :) Again, just think he's underselling it. It's not really about even liking it, lol.
 
wannabeBelle

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I think NRJ is a beautiful ride, but I don't get a storyline from it at all and before you really get into the ride, it is over. I'd prefer a little more of length on the ride as well as a storyline to draw you in. The AA is pretty awesome and it is lovely though. Marie
 
Dunston

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I'm very surprised that so many here are dismissive of Harry Potter's Forbidden Journey. I still think that it is the most impressive ride in Orlando. Not my favorite attraction experience (that honor will always go to The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror), but I'm always exhilarated and amazed when that robot arm swings me through Hogwarts. I do not remember being uinimpressed by the animatronics on that ride, because you swing past them so quickly. I do think that the lighting in some of the dark parts does let you see "behind the curtain" a bit, but I may be remembering it wrong--I haven't been on it, or to Universal, since 2013.
 
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Hawg G

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Dunston said:
I'm very surprised that so many here are dismissive of Harry Potter's Forbidden Journey. I still think that it is the most impressive ride in Orlando. Not my favorite attraction experience (that honor will always go to The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror), but I'm always exhilarated and amazed when that robot arm swings me through Hogwarts. I do not remember being uinimpressed by the animatronics on that ride, because you swing past them so quickly. I do think that the lighting in some of the dark parts does let you see "behind the curtain" a bit, but I may be remembering it wrong--I haven't been on it, or to Universal, since 2013.
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Just Diznoids.
 
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celluloid

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egg said:
I liked Forbidden Journey back in the day because at one point in the ride my feet would come in significant contact with fake foliage and my legs aren’t unusually long by any means. You never really feel the danger you’re supposed to feel on a theme park ride because you know it’s just a ride, but they managed to take that sense of safety away. It was highly immersive. Today the ride just isn’t the same.

I hope MMRR provides a similar sense of immersion.
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I can still get the tip of my shoe on some of the netting into the final screen carosuel depending on where I sit. No other ride I know Puts you Into the ride envalope the unique way the kuka arms do on FJ.
 
matt9112

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wannabeBelle said:
I think NRJ is a beautiful ride, but I don't get a storyline from it at all and before you really get into the ride, it is over. I'd prefer a little more of length on the ride as well as a storyline to draw you in. The AA is pretty awesome and it is lovely though. Marie
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valid point but its a bad ride IMO its excuted very poorly. it has no story (that an average guest will get) and is amazingly short. it could have been far larger if they wanted...honestly considering its not an overlay or shoehorn ride its probably one of the biggest failures lately.
 
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Hawg G

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matt9112 said:
valid point but its a bad ride IMO its excuted very poorly. it has no story (that an average guest will get) and is amazingly short. it could have been far larger if they wanted...honestly considering its not an overlay or shoehorn ride its probably one of the biggest failures lately.
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Especially since the increase in budget would have been fairly small to make it twice the length. It is Accountanteering at its finest. But it's clearly all they had to do. Had Universal opened some ride like that, with one AA at the end, and no story, people would just say how it's more of how Universal just can't compete, and why they don't go there. At AK, it gets 1 hour waits daily.
 
yensidtlaw1969

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matt9112 said:
valid point but its a bad ride IMO its excuted very poorly. it has no story (that an average guest will get) and is amazingly short. it could have been far larger if they wanted...honestly considering its not an overlay or shoehorn ride its probably one of the biggest failures lately.
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The story is that you're essentially going on an excursion into the wilds of the Bioluminescent Forest to explore its natural wonders. Given the structural framework of Animal Kingdom, that's about as far as any attraction story goes in that park. It's not a park about Disney Storytelling™ in the "traditional" sense, it's about creating the experience of going out into nature and building a connection with it through experience. This is similar to Kilimanjaro and even Flight of Passage - you're going on an excursion in an exotic, animal-rich environment to be awed by its beauty and moved by its splendor. The alternative to this storyline within AK is more like what we experience in Kali, Everest, and Dinosaur - we enter the natural world in ignorance of its order and through our experience we are humbled by its power.

You can totally debate the success of its execution - it's fair to say you think the Safari or FoP deliver better on this premise, and I tend to agree that the ride feels a bit like it's over before it's truly begun, though I do enjoy what's there - but the story isn't lacking by the standards of that park. Animal Kingdom is meant to mirror a real-world-type experience through its rides more than it is meant to tell a "story". That if Pandora was a real place and you went on an expedition into the forest, this is what it would be like. No one complains about the "lack of story" on Flight of Passage even though it's basically the exact same as Na'vi River Journey - go on a unique excursion through the otherworldly natural landscape of Pandora courtesy of Alpha Centauri Expeditions - but I think that simply comes down to it being generally regarded as a more satisfying attraction experience. It offers neither more nor better story, just a more exciting experience.
 
I am Timmy

I am Timmy

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
The story is that you're essentially going on an excursion into the wilds of the Bioluminescent Forest to explore its natural wonders. Given the structural framework of Animal Kingdom, that's about as far as any attraction story goes in that park. It's not a park about Disney Storytelling™ in the "traditional" sense, it's about creating the experience of going out into nature and building a connection with it through experience. This is similar to Kilimanjaro and even Flight of Passage - you're going on an excursion in an exotic, animal-rich environment to be awed by its beauty and moved by its splendor. The alternative to this storyline within AK is more like what we experience in Kali, Everest, and Dinosaur - we enter the natural world in ignorance of its order and through our experience we are humbled by its power.

You can totally debate the success of its execution - it's fair to say you think the Safari or FoP deliver better on this premise, and I tend to agree that the ride feels a bit like it's over before it's truly begun, though I do enjoy what's there - but the story isn't lacking by the standards of that park. Animal Kingdom is meant to mirror a real-world-type experience through its rides more than it is meant to tell a "story". That if Pandora was a real place and you went on an expedition into the forest, this is what it would be like. No one complains about the "lack of story" on Flight of Passage even though it's basically the exact same as Na'vi River Journey - go on a unique excursion through the otherworldly natural landscape of Pandora courtesy of Alpha Centauri Expeditions - but I think that simply comes down to it being generally regarded as a more satisfying attraction experience. It offers neither more nor better story, just a more exciting experience.
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Well said, you absolutely nailed it.
 
TJJohn12

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
The story is that you're essentially going on an excursion into the wilds of the Bioluminescent Forest to explore its natural wonders. Given the structural framework of Animal Kingdom, that's about as far as any attraction story goes in that park. It's not a park about Disney Storytelling™ in the "traditional" sense, it's about creating the experience of going out into nature and building a connection with it through experience. This is similar to Kilimanjaro and even Flight of Passage - you're going on an excursion in an exotic, animal-rich environment to be awed by its beauty and moved by its splendor. The alternative to this storyline within AK is more like what we experience in Kali, Everest, and Dinosaur - we enter the natural world in ignorance of its order and through our experience we are humbled by its power.

You can totally debate the success of its execution - it's fair to say you think the Safari or FoP deliver better on this premise, and I tend to agree that the ride feels a bit like it's over before it's truly begun, though I do enjoy what's there - but the story isn't lacking by the standards of that park. Animal Kingdom is meant to mirror a real-world-type experience through its rides more than it is meant to tell a "story". That if Pandora was a real place and you went on an expedition into the forest, this is what it would be like. No one complains about the "lack of story" on Flight of Passage even though it's basically the exact same as Na'vi River Journey - go on a unique excursion through the otherworldly natural landscape of Pandora courtesy of Alpha Centauri Expeditions - but I think that simply comes down to it being generally regarded as a more satisfying attraction experience. It offers neither more nor better story, just a more exciting experience.
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Interesting coda - the “story” of Kilimanjaro Safaris was removed (by degrees) from 2007-2012, I would wager partially because the story of “excursion in an exotic, animal-rich environment to be awed by its beauty and moved by its splendor” was enough. Guests didn’t need the ‘Big Red’ throughline. The anti-poacher preshow and theming is still intact though.
 
kap91

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
The story is that you're essentially going on an excursion into the wilds of the Bioluminescent Forest to explore its natural wonders. Given the structural framework of Animal Kingdom, that's about as far as any attraction story goes in that park. It's not a park about Disney Storytelling™ in the "traditional" sense, it's about creating the experience of going out into nature and building a connection with it through experience. This is similar to Kilimanjaro and even Flight of Passage - you're going on an excursion in an exotic, animal-rich environment to be awed by its beauty and moved by its splendor. The alternative to this storyline within AK is more like what we experience in Kali, Everest, and Dinosaur - we enter the natural world in ignorance of its order and through our experience we are humbled by its power.

You can totally debate the success of its execution - it's fair to say you think the Safari or FoP deliver better on this premise, and I tend to agree that the ride feels a bit like it's over before it's truly begun, though I do enjoy what's there - but the story isn't lacking by the standards of that park. Animal Kingdom is meant to mirror a real-world-type experience through its rides more than it is meant to tell a "story". That if Pandora was a real place and you went on an expedition into the forest, this is what it would be like. No one complains about the "lack of story" on Flight of Passage even though it's basically the exact same as Na'vi River Journey - go on a unique excursion through the otherworldly natural landscape of Pandora courtesy of Alpha Centauri Expeditions - but I think that simply comes down to it being generally regarded as a more satisfying attraction experience. It offers neither more nor better story, just a more exciting experience.
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This. The only issue with NRJ is its wait to ride length ratio. Whether changes should have been made given the designer's knowledge of how popular attractions are at WDW is up for debate I suppose - but I'm not terribly confident that much of that was in their control.
 
Imagineer777

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Here's the entrance marquee for MMRR, I think it looks awesome and fits in nicely!
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Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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All the stuff we have been seeing out of this ride looks great! I'm a big fan of the sign really plays into the whole "premiere of a short" storyline. Train looks cool aswell :)
 

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