PizzaPlanet
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I really hope it doesn't, that would feel like a slap in the face to WDW fans. I'd feel differently if this wasn't replacing the headliner attraction of DHS.
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Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed
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brb1006
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With the exception of the Imagineer photos the rest is just giving some ideas for what the ride might be like.
Casper Gutman
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It is extremely likely that this was chosen to replace GMR specifically because they intend to place it in the Toontown expansion pad in DL, which they are eyeing for a ride after SWL. It explains why they are forcing it into MGM, where it doesn't really fit thematically - it DOES fit in Toontown, and reproducing the ride saves money. And "slapping WDW fans in the face" has been a big part of their business plan for a while.
Ag11gani
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This ride does fit the Chinese Theatre infact maybe even better than GMR. You are going to see a screening of a Mickey short and you get sucked into the screen, doesn't get much more fitting. I'd say that the ride wouldn't really fit Toontown usless they built a Toontown theatre.
alias8703
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Why would that feel like a slap in the face to WDW fans?
lol someone sounds a little greedy
Casper Gutman
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A movie theatre showing a Flash animated short of a style suited to internet viewing. I enjoy the style, but it isn't remotely theatrical. And I strongly suspect that a different queue and perhaps some alterations to the first scene's projections will drop the "movie theatre" conceit and the attraction will become simply be a wacky ride with Mickey and pals - the sort of thing that fits Toontown like a glove. It's like sticking Disneyland's Indy ride in the Chinese theatre and saying, "you got sucked into an Indy film!"
Casper Gutman
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Because it would be the destruction of something wonderful and unique about WDW in favor of more homogenization across Disney's properties.Why would that feel like a slap in the face to WDW fans?
lol someone sounds a little greedy
alias8703
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oh jesus who cares?
some of y'all get waaaaay to intense and serious about things that shouldn't keep you up at night... Like a disney ride coming to another (the original mind you) disney property.
Casper Gutman
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This is a WDW fan board. By definition, the people here are fans and take things pertaining to WDW a lot more seriously then the average person.
And as a general point, while each little issue might not seem that significant, I'd argue that WDW, DL and the Disney Corporation as a whole matter a great deal. They are intimately entwined in the cultural history of the 20th and 21st century and have influenced that history both directly and indirectly. Disney remains one of the 2 or 3 most powerful culture industries in the world, with the parks being one of the most potent tools for promoting their brand - and their ideology. So a lot of silly little things can add up to some pretty important big things.
spacemt354
Chili's
It's not about being greedy.Why would that feel like a slap in the face to WDW fans?
lol someone sounds a little greedy
Why travel to any other domestic or international Disney resorts if they include the same rides? There's a special reason to travel to DCA for Cars Land, or to Hong Kong Disneyland for Mystic Manor, or to Tokyo Disney Sea for Journey to the Center of the Earth.
Some attractions should be specifically unique to their park, otherwise it deters the motivation to travel to them.
Well... that's fine with me. I'm a WDW guy, and I have no feelings of ownership of WDW attractions.
Does Hong Kong want a Pandora clone? Fine! Have at it!
Does Paris want to recreate an Epcotian World Showcase of national pavilions? Be my guest!
Does Tokyo want a Star Wars Land? My face remains unslapped.
Does Shanghai want Carousel of Progress, sure, take the one we got. (
). Each park has millions and millions of guests in their sphere. Why make the whole world go to Shanghai just for their PotC? Why make the whole world travel to Hong Kong for Mystic Manor? Why do that when they can just save time and gas and expense and just go to their local Disney theme park? If I go to Tokyo or Paris, it's to see Tokyo or Paris, not to see the small handful of attractions that only their Disney park has.
After MK was basically a cloned version of Disneyland, I don't know why Disney theme park fans are against cloning. Yeah, I know what they say, but it doesn't make sense to me.
spacemt354
Chili's
Well, that's your opinion. I differ.Well... that's fine with me. I'm a WDW guy, and I have no feelings of ownership of WDW attractions.
Does Hong Kong want a Pandora clone? Fine! Have at it!
Does Paris want to recreate an Epcotian World Showcase of national pavilions? Be my guest!
Does Tokyo want a Star Wars Land? My face remains unslapped.
Does Shanghai want Carousel of Progress, sure, take the one we got. (
Each park has millions and millions of guests in their sphere. Why make the whole world go to Shanghai just for their PotC? Why make the whole world travel to Hong Kong for Mystic Manor? Why do that when they can just save time and gas and expense and just go to their local Disney theme park? If I go to Tokyo or Paris, it's to see Tokyo or Paris, not to see the small handful of attractions that only their Disney park has.
After MK was basically a cloned version of Disneyland, I don't know why Disney theme park fans are against cloning. Yeah, I know what they say, but it doesn't make sense to me.
To me, too much homogenization is a bad thing. Doesn't mean all clones are bad, but headliner attractions that peak interest into the resort as a whole should try to remain unique to that specific resort. Might be good for business to clone it, but my incentive to actually explore other Disney resorts around the world is diminished if I have everything in the home base of WDW. Sure part of our California trip was exploring Los Angeles and San Diego, but for the 2 days we were at Disneyland, I very much enjoyed experiencing attractions I've never been on and aren't available in WDW.
alias8703
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First of all, no one is disputing Disney's importance... That's why we're all here.
I wouldn't call having the same ride existing 3000 miles away silly.
Some of you guys forget that the vast majority of people will never travel to multiple Disney resorts in their lifetime.
It's a very small percentage of people who travel the globe just to go to different Disney parks.
People tend to go to the park closest to them.
Therefor having the company save R&D costs by placing more than 1 of the same ride at it's different properties around the world also then allows them to spend other money on things that make the destinations unique.
This is the first ever Mickey Mouse ride. The mouse that built Disney therefor Disneyland therefor Disneyworld.
Going by that logic this ride fits in Disneyland more than any other park on the planet.
Who cares if they clone it?
Well... that's fine with me. I'm a WDW guy, and I have no feelings of ownership of WDW attractions.
Does Hong Kong want a Pandora clone? Fine! Have at it!
Does Paris want to recreate an Epcotian World Showcase of national pavilions? Be my guest!
Does Tokyo want a Star Wars Land? My face remains unslapped.
Does Shanghai want Carousel of Progress, sure, take the one we got. (
Each park has millions and millions of guests in their sphere. Why make the whole world go to Shanghai just for their PotC? Why make the whole world travel to Hong Kong for Mystic Manor? Why do that when they can just save time and gas and expense and just go to their local Disney theme park? If I go to Tokyo or Paris, it's to see Tokyo or Paris, not to see the small handful of attractions that only their Disney park has.
After MK was basically a cloned version of Disneyland, I don't know why Disney theme park fans are against cloning. Yeah, I know what they say, but it doesn't make sense to me.
Preach.
PizzaPlanet
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Generally I agree with you about cloning attractions, and if MMRR was a new build I wouldn't care if it came to DCA. It's just the fact that we'd be losing a unique attraction (GMR) for one that can be found elsewhere. If your going to gut and replace the centerpiece of DHS at least make it unique.Well... that's fine with me. I'm a WDW guy, and I have no feelings of ownership of WDW attractions.
Does Hong Kong want a Pandora clone? Fine! Have at it!
Does Paris want to recreate an Epcotian World Showcase of national pavilions? Be my guest!
Does Tokyo want a Star Wars Land? My face remains unslapped.
Does Shanghai want Carousel of Progress, sure, take the one we got. (
Each park has millions and millions of guests in their sphere. Why make the whole world go to Shanghai just for their PotC? Why make the whole world travel to Hong Kong for Mystic Manor? Why do that when they can just save time and gas and expense and just go to their local Disney theme park? If I go to Tokyo or Paris, it's to see Tokyo or Paris, not to see the small handful of attractions that only their Disney park has.
After MK was basically a cloned version of Disneyland, I don't know why Disney theme park fans are against cloning. Yeah, I know what they say, but it doesn't make sense to me.
PizzaPlanet
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Okay dude, you could literally say that about everything we argue about on these boards. Don't try to put this one complaint into perspective to make your point. Try again and come up with a real reason to back your argument.
spacemt354
Chili's
There are some attractions that are an essential story point to the park that they are in, or the land they are in - and just because they're popular and majority of Disney fans won't travel to other parks, doesn't mean they should be automatically cloned. Nevertheless, there are some attractions whose storylines are popular and can be added to other parks around the world in a semi-seamless manner.
As stated above, it would be a shame if the Great Movie Ride was replaced with an attraction that could be easily cloned to other parks, as we would have lost something unique to WDW for something that can be easily reproducible.
Goofyernmost
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We are WDW fans because it is our local park, so to speak. I traveled for years to WDW over 1500 miles, but, it was still my local park, now at 600 miles it's practically in my backyard. However, DL is not my local park, I've gotten to it once and that isn't enough to have insight or even anything constructive to say about it. In short I don't care what the hell is there. I don't care if everything that is in WDW is also in DLR. Why? Because it doesn't have any impact on my life at all. They could stack three of everything from WDW in DLR and I still wouldn't care.
This obsession with having things only in one place only makes more money for Disney executives if the desire to see something that is in another park motivates people to spend more money with Disney and go to all of them. It has no basis of logic for us, no actual problem for us, the guests no matter how many duplicates there are. In fact, it helps keep the crowds down by not forcing people to visit other parks to see something they want. In affect, that philosophy is detrimental to those of us that can conveniently only attend one location.
FigmentForver96
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Sure, one could argue that cloning the ride isn't terrible (I personally don't like it but don't mind some things). That still doesn't change the fact the park needs more rides, not replacing rides and there never ever will be a positive reason for why they couldn't have built this elsewhere in the park AND updated the ride.
No Name
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The wider issue is when attractions don't fit as well in the park they're cloned for.
The Mr. Potato Head animatronic in DHS's Toy Story Midway Mania is dressed like a boardwalk barker, on a podium that says "boardwalk barker." But there's no boardwalk in DHS.
The Little Mermaid ride fits wonderfully in Fantasyland... but in Paradise Pier? I guess, you know, water!
Tron Lightcycle Power Run was designed as SDL's substitute for Space Mountain, so there are many similarities. Now it's being built next to its inspiration.
A more recent issue is the cloning of entire places within parks. The most alarming example I can think of is Star Wars Land. It was designed to sort of fit both DL and DHS, and so it doesn't really fit either. On the flipside, Pandora was designed mostly specifically for DAK, and it certainly shows.
The Mr. Potato Head animatronic in DHS's Toy Story Midway Mania is dressed like a boardwalk barker, on a podium that says "boardwalk barker." But there's no boardwalk in DHS.
The Little Mermaid ride fits wonderfully in Fantasyland... but in Paradise Pier? I guess, you know, water!
Tron Lightcycle Power Run was designed as SDL's substitute for Space Mountain, so there are many similarities. Now it's being built next to its inspiration.
A more recent issue is the cloning of entire places within parks. The most alarming example I can think of is Star Wars Land. It was designed to sort of fit both DL and DHS, and so it doesn't really fit either. On the flipside, Pandora was designed mostly specifically for DAK, and it certainly shows.