Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

brb1006

brb1006

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DisneyOutsider said:
Mickey was never very wholesome in my recollection. Only the theme parks seem to portray him as such

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And this moment from Symphony Hour
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And Mickey kicking Pluto out of his house in "Lend A Paw".
 
Magenta Panther

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DoubleJ21 said:
They’re a lot more fun. I just don’t think I’ll ever get used to the look. It’s not that I dislike it per se, but it’s just not the Mickey I‘m used to, and it never will be.

Same thing for styles of Mickey that came before my childhood. They just look weird to me.

I’m glad that they’re keeping both styles around though.
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My only quibble with Mickey's looks in the new shorts is that the animators go off-model MUCH too often. If it's done for comic effect, or as a reaction shot, then fine. But going all in for the Kricfalusi style just for its own sake is off-putting. And slavishly imitative.
 
Tom Morrow

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Regarding the new designs of the characters in the shorts - I think it works because it borrows from Mickey's vintage look but is different enough. Using the softer mascot Mickey model would seem jarring and awkward with his personality in the new shorts.

DisneyOutsider said:
Mickey was never very wholesome in my recollection. Only the theme parks seem to portray him as such

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Right, but these cartoon shorts are from 60+ years ago. Between then and these new shorts, Mickey was never portrayed as anything but a wholesome figure and rarely used as more than a mascot.
 
Donaldfan1934

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Tom Morrow said:
Right, but these cartoon shorts are from 60+ years ago. Between then and these new shorts, Mickey was never portrayed as anything but a wholesome figure and rarely used as more than a mascot.
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I get that Mickey’s image has generally gotten more and more soft each decade following the shorts from 60+ years ago, but that doesn’t mean Disney couldn’t have done something in a similar style to them if they wanted to show off a more complex Mickey than what’s on Disney Jr. In my honest opinion, doing a completely new take on the character was an overcorrection of that softer image. It’s taking the character from one extreme to another in a way that‘s been divisive enough to fill hundreds of pages of discussion on these forums regarding whether or not this version of Mickey is the right one to be used in an attraction of this scale.
 
Goofyernmost

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Donaldfan1934 said:
I get that Mickey’s image has generally gotten more and more soft each decade following the shorts from 60+ years ago, but that doesn’t mean Disney couldn’t have done something in a similar style to them if they wanted to show off a more complex Mickey than what’s on Disney Jr. In my honest opinion, doing a completely new take on the character was an overcorrection of that softer image. It’s taking the character from one extreme to another in a way that‘s been divisive enough to fill hundreds of pages of discussion on these forums regarding whether or not this version of Mickey is the right one to be used in an attraction of this scale.
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I understand what you are saying, and I can't say you are wrong, but you are projecting what we super fans feel as opposed to what the vast majority feel. For the most part, if the show is good they will not care how Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Goofy or any of the well known characters are presented. As long as they can identify who the characters are, they will be quite happy with what is shown. Even some of us older fans are not really concerned about it as long as it is fun. I will admit that these images are a lot more like the original Mickey was like before he was fleshed out by Ub Iwerks.
 
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Fox&Hound

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Tom Morrow said:
Ignoring the visual aesthetics of them, the modern Mickey shorts do something that they weren’t able to do with Mickey for decades - make him a funny, entertaining character with personality again. The new shorts are actually funny for all ages and have just enough edge to them to make Mickey a character worth caring about that doesn’t seem lame. Not a soulless mascot, not a children’s teaching tool.

I would prefer if the characters didn’t have that modern, flat appearance to them, but these shorts have more artistic merit to them than your average modern cartoon. The backgrounds are super detailed, vibrant, and look like paintings. The characters are very expressive and go off model all the time which is very much a classic animation thing. I know some people don’t like the “shock” shots and compare them to Ren & Stimpy, but they’re used sparingly and with good comedic timing, and again I believe they’re part of a calculated effort to give Mickey some edge again.

In short, you may not like the look and that’s okay, but I don’t know why you’d prefer soulless mascot Mickey or children’s show Mickey over a fun and funny Mickey.
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I agree 100000000%. For too long Mickey has had zero personality. I remember the creators of the Epic Mickey cartoon game even said that it was a challenge when making the game that they were frustrated with how boring Mickey had become. I saw a special once where they discussed in the shorts with Goofy, Mickey and Donald that it quickly became the Donald Duck got all of the angry emotions and Goofy got the wacky/silly emotions and therefore Mickey was left as the straight man with nothing much too contribute.

I love that they went with this style and love that they are giving Mickey a refresh...
 
Donaldfan1934

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Goofyernmost said:
I understand what you are saying, and I can't say you are wrong, but you are projecting what we super fans feel as apposed to what the vast majority feel. For the most part, if the show is good they will not care how Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Goofy or any of the well known characters are presented. As long as they can identify who the characters are, they will be quite happy with what is shown. Even some of us older fans are not really concerned about it as long as it is fun. I will admit that these images are a lot more like the original Mickey was like before he was fleshed out by Ub Iwerks.
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So, basically, what you’re saying is if the average joe doesn’t mind or take much notice to how the characters are presented, why should the perspectives of those who are more critical or perceptive matter? Rizzo, is that you?
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In all seriousness, though, the entirety of these forums is devoted to super fans expressing their opinions on topics the vast majority aren’t all that concerned about. Yes, Disney may receive generally positive feedback either way, but that doesn’t mean Disney should automatically dismiss all criticism of the direction they choose to go with a given project because of it.
 
Goofyernmost

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Donaldfan1934 said:
So, basically, what you’re saying is if the average joe doesn’t mind or take much notice to how the characters are presented, why should the perspectives of those who are more critical or perceptive matter? Rizzo, is that you?View attachment 434022
In all seriousness, though, the entirety of these forums is devoted to super fans expressing their opinions on topics the vast majority aren’t all that concerned about. Yes, Disney may receive generally positive feedback either way, but that doesn’t mean Disney should automatically dismiss all criticism of the direction they choose to go with a given project because of it.
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I understand your viewpoint as well, however, ask yourself, when was the last time that they ever took fan criticism as a way to determine what direction they would go. They know how to run a theme park, we only think we do. We are armchair imagineers, they are real ones. They have done massive studies about what will and will not work. Sometimes they are wrong and most of the time they are right.

Suppose you were an auto mechanic and some guy the drew cartoons attempted to tell you how to do your area of expertise. Would you just drop everything and change what you were doing? Super fandom is a very small percentage of the people that go to theme parks. Far and away the biggest numbers are those that go there to have a good time, not as a pilgrimage to a holy land.
 
Otamin

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Steph15251 said:
While I feel rise in the end would turn out the better ride,I think I would like this better.Just wish it was a new build and that we still had GMR and that updated but it is what it is.
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Definitely.

This going in the former animation building whilst retaining GMR would've been great, but it is what it is.
 
Hawkeye_2018

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Steph15251 said:
While I feel rise in the end would turn out the better ride,I think I would like this better.Just wish it was a new build and that we still had GMR and that updated but it is what it is.
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Rise is already considered maybe the best attraction in the entire world. You think a slow moving kiddie Mickey dark ride is going to be better?
 

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