DHS Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

[CJR]

So, separate load/unload. Makes sense so that the train's empty when you "step into" the cartoon.

 

[marni1971]

The layout I see is very much like Ratatouille. With one scene where you split up for a small, totally enveloping screen. The rest are rooms you will quickly go through..

The train splits in every show room. One room has a ballet (with a fifth.... thing), one room you pair off, then another ballet, then each car gets its own screen, two more ballet splits, an out of position group, and then the regroup.

It helps if you know the path envelopes

 

[marni1971]

So, separate load/unload. Makes sense so that the train's empty when you "step into" the cartoon.

Read this from yesterday:

The barn is roughly where half the original finale theatre was. It uses an LPS feature of enabling cars to park for disabled load / unload out of sight and off the main ride path. Cars will usually pass through empty to return to load.

I just checked. New unload does indeed take up around 3/4 of the original finale theatre area. Guests will exit by roughly walking through where the old right hand vehicle doors used to be, to a new corridor that leads to the old exit doors.

The left hand theatre vehicle doors are more or less where the “barn” entrance is for GWD and return to load cars. The GWD load/unload area is half of the old GMR return to load room that later had the TCM projections above.

It should be noted the old maintainence garage exit and associated vehicle pathway has gone. The new GWD dock and new exit corridor now use this space.

 

[Hawg G]

The train splits in every show room. One room has a ballet (with a fifth.... thing), one room you pair off, then another ballet, then each car gets its own screen, two more ballet splits, an out of position group, and then the regroup.

Right, if by ballet you are talking Poohs Hunny Hunt rooms with things all around. And if so, again, ther really can't be any real depth to the projections.

It's clear one room, cars are separated, on likely gentle motion bases.

With that info, if this is PHH with screens, that will be great. It will be nice for the US to finally get a ride with the quality of a 15 year old ride at TDL.

 

[marni1971]

With that info, if this is PHH with screens..

That’s a good analogy.

 

[Disney Analyst]

That’s a good analogy.

In the site of not mentioning's write up, they say 10 AA figures as well, so if that is the case... This looks like a great attraction, aside from the death of GMR.

 

[Hawg G]

In the site of not mentioning's write up, they say 10 AA figures as well, so if that is the case... This looks like a great attraction, aside from the death of GMR.

Staying with the PHH analogy, and the fact you will zip by them, I wouldn't expect high end AAs. Perhaps a M and M pair at the end.

For those who know, does this really have any unusual projected visuals? The layout looks so open, I'm guessing almost complete screen coverage around each room. Perhaps some cool movement like the Tigger room.

Can't wait to see the Universal Screenz haters pile on the praise.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Pandora was well worth the cost. Look at the lines for the 2 rides. Look at the Satu'li Canteen and of couse the merchandise. Selling a 6 month supply of Banshees in days. This land was a fantastic investment. Too many people here only talk about the rides and ignore what makes WDW a themepark and not an amusement park. I don't go for the rides but the overall experience and quality.

Pandora's cost in terms of dollars was pretty high when you consider the added capacity. It's a vastly underbuilt E-ticket (from a capacity standpoint) and a moderately underbuilt C-ticket. Satu'li Canteen does ok business but it's not like it's impossible to get in there. The merchandise hasn't been a significant push much beyond the opening summer. What it has done was inflate Animal Kingdom to the #2 park at WDW which cannot be dismissed.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I still argue if it was Flight of Wizard Passage, it would be lambasted as another Universal screen ride.

Right, if it was in Universal it would be criticized because it would be another screen based ride in a park filled with screen based rides. It is the only screen based ride in the Animal Kingdom. The issue isn't with screens, the issue is with variety.

 

[BrianLo]

They can call it whatever. I see large rooms, that will contain 4 cars at a time, so 4 points of convergence. I suspect the walls will be almost all projected. Besides the starting tunnel, which may have something unique on the right of the vehicles, or that could be where the Goofy engine returns to the next group. The rest of the rooms seem just open rooms.

As I said, perhaps some moving walls aren't shown, but they are very limited in what they can do with multiple vehicles. They can hype all they want, and they will. They have you spouting out 2.5D just like they trained you.

They will convince you 2.5D is better than 3D that Ratatouille has. Even though 2.5D is nothing but a term created by a bunch of marketers in a room one day that may or may not have contained an Imagineer

We'll see. It will be a neat ride, but I think it will end up like Smugglers Run. A ride everyone thought was going to blow their minds, that reality has slowly crept in and beat down PR speak, and folks now have much more controlled expectations of it. Some even expecting it to be pretty non-mind blowing

I think you are really over interpreting a basic layout.

By the same metric Mystic manor looks devoid.

 

[BrianLo]

@marni1971, is May reasonably safe?

Asking for a friend

 

[Kman101]

I think the popularity is just like Soarin needing 3 screens. And Soarin is just another 4 minute movie on a moving platform. I see FoP as just another movie, honestly. Yes, it's a bit sparkelier, and a bit different. But I simply dont get the fawning over it. I still argue if it was Flight of Wizard Passage, it would be lambasted as another Universal screen ride.

Satuli is so popular because it actually has air conditioning.

Nit picking the FJ show building is so tired, and Diznoidy. I'd much rather Universal spend money on rides than a hundred million on extra rock work. The ride hardware for the 2 Pandora rides was likely about 15-20% of the land cost. In a park desperately needing more attractions.

What points are you actually trying to prove? So just slap up a warehouse and a marquee and call it a day? That's not how Disney Parks work (the well themed ones, that is, HS is a mess)

 

[Kman101]

Staying with the PHH analogy, and the fact you will zip by them, I wouldn't expect high end AAs. Perhaps a M and M pair at the end.

For those who know, does this really have any unusual projected visuals? The layout looks so open, I'm guessing almost complete screen coverage around each room. Perhaps some cool movement like the Tigger room.

Can't wait to see the Universal Screenz haters pile on the praise.

You seem like you're trying to pick a fight. Relax. Maybe Universal is more your cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that

 

[marni1971]

You seem like you're trying to pick a fight. Relax. Maybe Universal is more your cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that

No reason you can’t have both

And conversely I’m doing my first Six Flags this year and can’t wait

 

[marni1971]

@marni1971, is May reasonably safe?

Asking for a friend

As always I wouldn’t book around it.

 

[ToTBellHop]

As always I wouldn’t book around it.

Martin, people plan when they will make and have babies around the news you share.

 

[monothingie]

As always I wouldn’t book around it.

Martin, people plan when they will make and have babies around the news you share.

Yes evidently I'm booking a cruise around it too...

 

[Hawg G]

I think you are really over interpreting a basic layout.

By the same metric Mystic manor looks devoid.

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Mystic Manor, and PHH, are MUCH smaller building, and more intimate. To get through all of the GMR building, you'll be moving at a decent clip. The layout may look similar, but the distances are much larger for MMRR And they have really pushed the projection portion as the WOW factor. There will be set dressing around, but with the screens full of movement, there won't be much need for other stuff as you zip through.

 

[Kman101]

No reason you can’t have both

And conversely I’m doing my first Six Flags this year and can’t wait

Nope, no reason. I love both Shocking how we can love both, no? I don't see the need like some to try and start the Uni vs. Disney. They're both existing and doing their thing ... we all win when they keep trying to top the other

 

[Kman101]

Mystic Manor, and PHH, are MUCH smaller building, and more intimate. To get through all of the GMR building, you'll be moving at a decent clip. The layout may look similar, but the distances are much larger for MMRR And they have really pushed the projection portion as the WOW factor. There will be set dressing around, but with the screens full of movement, there won't be much need for other stuff as you zip through.

You are on a "train" so I have no doubt it will be "zippy". Original flavor dark rides on a track move you around pretty quickly past the cardboard ... I'm glad though you've decided it's a fail before we even see how it is on the inside. I hope you're pleasantly surprised but you've apparently made up your mind on this

And I notice you often bypass the fact it will indeed have animatronics. And more than one