Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

DanielBB8

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Yes, and once they see an attraction with declining numbers they don't hesitate to start the ball rolling on the replacement.

That is why they keep growing.
Much of DHS’ attractions felt like filler. They weren’t going to last anyways. The creator of Indy show didn’t think it will last beyond a few years. It’s still here, which tells you more about Disney than the audience.

If they wanted to save GMR and many Epcot rides that were done right, but became outdated, it would have happened a long time ago. Heck, GMR’s awful script needed to be changed decades ago. This is on Disney.
 

GlacierGlacier

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People who are tasteless enough to hate the GMR (and other iconic things like HEA, for instance) don't deserve a proper conversation. We have to stop thinking its "okay" for dissent. This new ride will be great but it doesn't mean the cretins who thought GMR was stale, old, and boring need to crawl out of the wood work and spew their hatred all over the place.
Again, it was only stale if you lack taste and appreciation for great films and old school Disney, which clearly a lot of people on this forum do o_Oo_O Sorry but GMR was better than a majority of the rides at WDW when it was still around.
You hold an opinion of GMR, and others hold their own opinions. You need to learn to understand that people are allowed to disagree with your opinions.

Other people's opinions on GMR are equally valid here on this form.

And dissent is the spice of life. You'd much rather eat a chocolate chip cookie than a cookie of the exact same construction just without chocolate chips. Variance, opinions, and proper discussion improves not only social understanding but it can improve and broaden your own world view.
 

donaldtoo

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Personally I would be happy if Mickey Mouse were in the ride at all, or even just a cameo, but we shall have to make do with this bizarre looking new character.

Yea, I still don’t understand Disney Animation devolving Mickey and the gang to Cartoon Network level animation status...other than (just speculation) cost and “keeping up with the times”. They just copied what others have been doing for years and years and broke no new ground.
Disney has, usually, been known for breaking new ground and setting the times, not just keeping up with them...WTH...?!?!?!
 

NiarrNDisney

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Parachute Drop would look awesome but would have to be very short to not destroy the immersion the land provides.

If they did RSR or RC racers, I think it would be its own mini-land.

I think (depending on location) the Parachute Drop would be fine, yeah you may see it from vantage points in other lands but honestly you can see ToT from pretty much anywhere in the park. As I have said in the past bringing the Parachute Drop would give the kiddos not tall enough for ToT a similar ride experience so they wont feel left out on the fun.

As for the RC Racer I was referring to the ride found in Hong Kong and Paris.
 

jt04

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I think (depending on location) the Parachute Drop would be fine, yeah you may see it from vantage points in other lands but honestly you can see ToT from pretty much anywhere in the park. As I have said in the past bringing the Parachute Drop would give the kiddos not tall enough for ToT a similar ride experience so they wont feel left out on the fun.

As for the RC Racer I was referring to the ride found in Hong Kong and Paris.

Very good. Another rumor out there is a Woody's Round-up sit down restaurant. Since it already has 3 rides I think this is a more likely option. They could take an all the above approach too and just keep adding to the land.
 

NiarrNDisney

Well-Known Member
Very good. Another rumor out there is a Woody's Round-up sit down restaurant. Since it already has 3 rides I think this is a more likely option. They could take an all the above approach too and just keep adding to the land.

I think the restaurant would be a great addition to the land and the park. I also feel the land could use one more attraction to help with the lines.
 

rle4lunch

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You hold an opinion of GMR, and others hold their own opinions. You need to learn to understand that people are allowed to disagree with your opinions.

Other people's opinions on GMR are equally valid here on this form.

And dissent is the spice of life. You'd much rather eat a chocolate chip cookie than a cookie of the exact same construction just without chocolate chips. Variance, opinions, and proper discussion improves not only social understanding but it can improve and broaden your own world view.

It's sad that his/her attitude is the norm today. Instead of having normal debate, people go 0-100 on the emotion scale in .2 seconds flat. It's a direct result of having an unlimited amount of anonymity in an indirect interaction medium (i.e. the internet). This trait has spilled over into face to face communication and is rapidly creating the great divisions that we see in society.

We live in the greatest time in human history, yet people still dig up something to about. Manufacturing injustice has become a full time job for some, and it's sad to witness.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I think (depending on location) the Parachute Drop would be fine, yeah you may see it from vantage points in other lands but honestly you can see ToT from pretty much anywhere in the park. As I have said in the past bringing the Parachute Drop would give the kiddos not tall enough for ToT a similar ride experience so they wont feel left out on the fun.

Concern about lines of sight from rides that give you height is a canard. Every Disney coaster with an outdoor component, every drop ride (the ToTs), and all the tree houses let you see outside your 'land' into another land (or even back stage).

You can't build berms high enough to block that sight. The only option is to completely encase your tall rides or chose not to have a tall ride.

People who brought that up with regard to Slinky were being, at best, very forgetful, and at worst, disingenuous.

So, yeah, a Parachute Drop would be fine. :)
 

Marc Davis Fan

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Concern about lines of sight from rides that give you height is a canard. Every Disney coaster with an outdoor component, every drop ride (the ToTs), and all the tree houses let you see outside your 'land' into another land (or even back stage).

You can't build berms high enough to block that sight. The only option is to completely encase your tall rides or chose not to have a tall ride.

I'm not totally sure about this. It's true that the sightline standards for rides that go high up are more flexible (compared to sightlines from walking areas on the ground, for example), but they're not completely thrown out the window. That is, the designers do take into consideration what you will see and the effect that will have, but they balance those considerations against the value of height and the practicalities involved with height. This is why, to provide just one example, backstage areas are blocked from view with faux "picket fences" on Splash Mountain at Disneyland.
 

Jones14

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Concern about lines of sight from rides that give you height is a canard. Every Disney coaster with an outdoor component, every drop ride (the ToTs), and all the tree houses let you see outside your 'land' into another land (or even back stage).

You can't build berms high enough to block that sight. The only option is to completely encase your tall rides or chose not to have a tall ride.

People who brought that up with regard to Slinky were being, at best, very forgetful, and at worst, disingenuous.

So, yeah, a Parachute Drop would be fine. :)
I think the concern with Parachute Drop wasn’t that you could see other areas from it, but that you would be able to see it from inside Galaxy’s Edge.
 

Marc Davis Fan

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I think the concern with Parachute Drop wasn’t that you could see other areas from it, but that you would be able to see it from inside Galaxy’s Edge.

Perhaps TSL should have been designed with a slightly-less-tall parachute drop on the end farthest from Galaxy’s Edge (and thus a reconfigured SDD layout, which could still have been just as good). And if they built four towers instead of just two, they would have a reasonable-capacity additional attraction at a low cost. And since they surely knew that DHS would need as much capacity as it could get once Galaxy’s Edge opens...
 
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The Empress Lilly

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Let's say that come 2030, the ride is still popular, but 2019 Mickey is considered dated at that point due to changing styles and tastes.
Outdated by 2030? The 2013 Mickey already looks outdated in 2019 and it's still just three weeks in.


Disney trying to be trendy and to go with the times never ends well. Disney Quest - the future of theme parks! - has already been demolished while Disneyland happily cruises towards seventy, more popular than ever before. When Star Wars went 2010's SJW it managed what not even the Ewok movies and Jar-Jar Binks could: it alienated the fans. Likewise, 1934 Mickey looks as fresh as ever, while 2013 Mickey is as past its Best Before date as the word hipster.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
Concern about lines of sight from rides that give you height is a canard. Every Disney coaster with an outdoor component, every drop ride (the ToTs), and all the tree houses let you see outside your 'land' into another land (or even back stage).

You can't build berms high enough to block that sight. The only option is to completely encase your tall rides or chose not to have a tall ride.

People who brought that up with regard to Slinky were being, at best, very forgetful, and at worst, disingenuous.

So, yeah, a Parachute Drop would be fine. :)
I agree that sight lines are an overused point of anger, but, although sight lines are no reason to not include Parachute Drop, the fact that, in my opinion, it is one of the lamest things on the planet it really should be assigned only to roadside carnivals. Perhaps over in DinoLand.
 

PorterRedkey

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I think (depending on location) the Parachute Drop would be fine, yeah you may see it from vantage points in other lands but honestly you can see ToT from pretty much anywhere in the park. As I have said in the past bringing the Parachute Drop would give the kiddos not tall enough for ToT a similar ride experience so they wont feel left out on the fun.

As for the RC Racer I was referring to the ride found in Hong Kong and Paris.
Concern about lines of sight from rides that give you height is a canard. Every Disney coaster with an outdoor component, every drop ride (the ToTs), and all the tree houses let you see outside your 'land' into another land (or even back stage).

You can't build berms high enough to block that sight. The only option is to completely encase your tall rides or chose not to have a tall ride.

People who brought that up with regard to Slinky were being, at best, very forgetful, and at worst, disingenuous.

So, yeah, a Parachute Drop would be fine. :)
I think it would look great over by the end of Slinky Dog, maybe even where the track loops around.
I think the concern with Parachute Drop wasn’t that you could see other areas from it, but that you would be able to see it from inside Galaxy’s Edge.
I agree that sight lines are an overused point of anger, but, although sight lines are no reason to not include Parachute Drop, the fact that, in my opinion, it is one of the lamest things on the planet it really should be assigned only to roadside carnivals. Perhaps over in DinoLand.


The main reason not to add the Parachute Drop ride (besides sightlines) is that the capacity is abysmal. I think the capacity is around 600-700 guests per hour. I think RC Racers is even worse. If Disney added FastPass+ to the ride (and you know they will!), the lines would be insane. Insane lines for a couple of drops on the tower? I think that might have guests complaining. You could add another tower, but then you double the sightline issues and the expense of doubling up on a cheap, dolled up amusement park ride.

IMHO Parachute Drop need to stay in Paris and Hong Kong and away from DHS. Save the money and build the Indyland instead! There needs to be another large E-ticket in the park to complement SW:GE and MMRR. I believe both will be very popular and this capacity-lacking park is going to suffer and as a result, so will the guest's overall experience.
 

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