Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland

TP2000

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Just curious did the neighbor lady mention what kind of capacity the Mickey ride will have? @GiveMeTheMusic?

It obviously won’t be POTC level but I’m hoping for better than the SWL rides.

Nope, she didn't mention the capacity in any way. Just that it was a project on Disneyland's radar and they need to demolish a big warehouse directly north of Toontown to do it.
 

TP2000

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Our insiders say of the one in DHS about 1,900 pph.

But why are DL folk worried about capacity during the initial SWL onslaught? Not only do they brag about their outsized capability to handle it with their high concentration of attractions... but the brag is actually true!

True, Disneyland has the most attractions of any Disney park in the world. But they also have the highest attendance and haven't added a new E Ticket to this park in 25 years (Indy '95) by the time Star Wars opens next summer. And it will have been 15 years since they added the last C Ticket dark rides (Buzz Lightyear '05 and Pooh '03).

Let's just think about that. All they've done for the past quarter century is fiddle with some holiday overlays and a few tech or cosmetic upgrades to existing rides. Even the two new C Tickets 15 years ago replaced existing attractions (CircleVision, Country Bears) that likely had higher hourly capacity than the dark rides that replaced them.

In the meantime, they also shut down a handful of other rides that had modest to high capacity (Skyway '94, PeopleMover '95, Motorboat Cruise '95, Keelboats '97). But add up those four closed rides and they had more than double the 1,800 customers per hour that Indiana Jones reportedly makes. Meanwhile a few existing venues feature tired static displays with big chunks unused (Innoventions/Carousel Theater) or low-interest clip shows (Magic Eye Theater).

I'm honestly not that grumpy today as my Dutch Baby and ham turned out great this morning, but my God when you step back and look at what a revolving door of clueless TDA execs have done to Disneyland in the last 25 years the results are nearly criminal. And in seven months time they are going to open Star Wars Land and try to cope with the crowds that will bring to an already overcrowded park??? That's a level of executive leadership that is shockingly inept and borderline criminal.
 

Timothy_Q

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True, Disneyland has the most attractions of any Disney park in the world. But they also have the highest attendance and haven't added a new E Ticket to this park in 25 years (Indy '95) by the time Star Wars opens next summer. And it will have been 15 years since they added the last C Ticket dark rides (Buzz Lightyear '05 and Pooh '03).
Disneyland doesn't have the highest attendance.
MK does
 

mickEblu

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Our insiders say of the one in DHS about 1,900 pph.

But why are DL folk worried about capacity during the initial SWL onslaught? Not only do they brag about their outsized capability to handle it with their high concentration of attractions... but the brag is actually true!

1900... that’s Decent I guess esp when considering it’s only replacing a store in Toontown.

Not sure I understand the rest of the post. Are you asking why we are concerned about capacity when we are always boasting about having so many attractions at DLR? I guess cause DLR is overcrowded like 350 days a year.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
1900... that’s Decent I guess esp when considering it’s only replacing a store in Toontown.

Not sure I understand the rest of the post. Are you asking why we are concerned about capacity when we are always boasting about having so many attractions at DLR? I guess cause DLR is overcrowded like 350 days a year.
Exactly. That’s why I asked when their last visit was. Anyone who’s been going to the parks regularly for the past few years knows the crowds have been ridiculous.

Welcome to our East Coast world.

Everything's relative.

MK has 2 million more guests per year than DL and less attractions. So, ya wanna talk busy? :p

And don't get me started on DHS.

Sure, DL is going to be submerged in a tsunami of guests, but compared to any other park, relatively, DL is the best suited for that onslaught.

Unless... WDW becomes generous in giving out hoppers to those who couldn't get in. Then WDW is more suited to absorb the crowds with three other theme parks.
 

mickEblu

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Welcome to our East Coast world.

Everything's relative.

MK has 2 million more guests per year than DL and less attractions. So, ya wanna talk busy? :p

And don't get me started on DHS.

Sure, DL is going to be submerged in a tsunami of guests, but compared to any other park, relatively, DL is the best suited for that onslaught.

Unless... WDW becomes generous in giving out hoppers to those who couldn't get in. Then WDW is more suited to absorb the crowds with three other theme parks.

I’m no expert and I’ve never been to WDW but 2 million more people spread out amongst the city that is WDW doesn’t seem like that much more when you compare the sizes of the resorts. DLR has more attractions but way less real estate, hotels, restaurants etc. to fit all of the people that visit comfortably. Not to mention how much more crowded DLR feels with its 1955 sized pathways and nooks n crannies.

Granted most people that visit the resorts are going to spend the most time at the parks so attraction count does come into play but from what I understand all of the WDW parks are huge. Meaning more space to hold the crowds. 2 million more people a year when comparing a city to the tiny DLR isn’t a whole lot.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I’m no expert and I’ve never been to WDW but 2 million more people spread out amongst the city that is WDW doesn’t seem like that much more when you compare the sizes of the resorts. DLR has more attractions but way less real estate, hotels, restaurants etc. to fit all of the people that visit comfortably. Not to mention how much more crowded DLR feels with its 1955 sized pathways and nooks n crannies.

Granted most people that visit the resorts are going to spend the most time at the parks so attraction count does come into play but from what I understand all of the WDW parks are huge. Meaning more space to hold the crowds. 2 million more people a year when comparing a city to the tiny DLR isn’t a whole lot.

I can't argue with that logic. It's settled: MK is much better than DL.
 

mickEblu

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I can't argue with that logic. It's settled: MK is much better than DL.

lol I don’t think anyone can argue that WDW isn’t the better vacation destination. DL is just the crem dela crem when it comes to theme parks and categories like design, artistry, landscaping etc.. but we pay for the charm with claustrophobia and it’s slowly changing with them hacking away at DL of late.

In short if I’m going on vacation I probably want to go to WDW. If I’m an AP I’m probably happier at DLR. Although me personally WDW isn’t the first place I want to vacation when I spend 20 days a year or so at DLR.
 

Californian Elitist

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Welcome to our East Coast world.

Everything's relative.

MK has 2 million more guests per year than DL and less attractions. So, ya wanna talk busy? :p

And don't get me started on DHS.

Sure, DL is going to be submerged in a tsunami of guests, but compared to any other park, relatively, DL is the best suited for that onslaught.

Unless... WDW becomes generous in giving out hoppers to those who couldn't get in. Then WDW is more suited to absorb the crowds with three other theme parks.

Okay, but when was your last visit to Disneyland? You didn’t answer my question lol. Not sure what the east coast and WDW have to do with what I asked.
 
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Californian Elitist

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Welcome to our East Coast world.

Everything's relative.

MK has 2 million more guests per year than DL and less attractions. So, ya wanna talk busy? :p

And don't get me started on DHS.

Sure, DL is going to be submerged in a tsunami of guests, but compared to any other park, relatively, DL is the best suited for that onslaught.

Unless... WDW becomes generous in giving out hoppers to those who couldn't get in. Then WDW is more suited to absorb the crowds with three other theme parks.

Have you ever been to Disneyland? It is small with tight walkways. It is absolutely NOT suited for SWL crowds.

Methinks you’ve never visited at all. Or maybe your last visit was back in the 1900’s. Correct me if I’m wrong.
 
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NateD1226

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These arguments are irrelevant to this thread. Does anybody have any speculations on what the façade/queue could look like for DL's version of Runaway Railway? It has to seamlessly compliment the rest of the land and also match the story of the attraction itself...
I hope Disney is not using Chinese Theater.I don't hate that Chinese Theater! (i don't want to start another argument today ;)) I just don't think that it fits in ToonTown. I would love to see facade ideas! I just want it to be bold and cartoonish like the other buildings..
 

bshah365

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Maybe if they made the façade into a super loud and cartoony movie studio.. like Mickey's Movie Barn, or something similar to Who Framed Roger Rabbit.... and the queue had guests stepping on set, and being a part of the making of a Mickey Mouse cartoon short... Guests are asked to actually be in the short and that's where we board our vehicles? Then things escalate from there...
 

VJ

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I hope Disney is not using Chinese Theater.I don't hate that Chinese Theater! (i don't want to start another argument today ;)) I just don't think that it fits in ToonTown. I would love to see facade ideas! I just want it to be bold and cartoonish like the other buildings..
Pfft. It'd work. All they have to do is put scorch marks around the Chinese Theater and KABAM, it came out of nowhere!
 

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