Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland

truecoat

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Normally, I’d fully expect this to be an exact clown, but since Toontown lacks the context of a real-life movie theater, I can’t help but think the story treatment of the ride will have to be different somehow.

My guess is it that it'll be a clone like TLM:AUA is a clone in WDW.
 

TwilightZone

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We've had this discussion before, in this very thread I believe...... But I personally have no issue with the current iteration of Mickey, to me its a throw back style that works. And I certainly don't think its a "bootleg" version.
To me I can't imagine this ride with any other iteration of mickey. Classic mickey will be too weird, modern (non disney channel) mickey would be too boring. This design is a nice mix of the two, so it will always be timeless in a way even years after the cartoon has ended it's run, both in new episodes and in reruns.
 

bshah365

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The building they are going to have to demolish backstage is HUGE for the entertainment department. Changing rooms, hundred of lockers, cosmetology (wig) department, parade makeup rooms, break rooms and the entire parade costuming facility for the entire resort is located ONLY within the first floor of that building..... and that's excluding the other floors above it which are entertainment operations offices.... ALSO... there is a huge maintenance storage facility and a big parade prep area attached to the same building...... While I can believe the project has been green lit by higher ups, I can't imagine where the space is to relocate all these facilities once they break ground.....
 

Burgower1994

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Random question: Is there any update with the pad site by Mickey Toontown and Star War Land? Will they use this for more star wars or to extend Mickey Toontown or even Frozen (I remember wdw1974 stated recently that Frozen was going in fantasyland).
riversofamerica-new-03-X3.jpg
 

Old Mouseketeer

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Random question: Is there any update with the pad site by Mickey Toontown and Star War Land? Will they use this for more star wars or to extend Mickey Toontown or even Frozen (I remember wdw1974 stated recently that Frozen was going in fantasyland).
riversofamerica-new-03-X3.jpg

Oh, please!!! How many times do we have to explain MiceChat's error. IT'S NOT AN EXPANSION PAD! It's a support area with room for staging deliveries, trash, and recycling and two buildings supporting costuming for Star Wars Land and it's much smaller than their guestimate. If you tear these building down, you have to move them somewhere else that is reasonably close to SW:GE. And there are fewer options with every expansion.

There are so many details about this diagram that have been proven wrong. It is based on an early concept that had a two-level traffic flow. The alignment of the show buildings was obviously out of sync from the beginning. Yes, it gave us an early approximation of what the land would contain, but it must be taken with a grain of salt. This diagram suggests that the "future expansion" area is larger than the Falcon ride when it is actually more like half the size.
 

mickEblu

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Oh, please!!! How many times do we have to explain MiceChat's error. IT'S NOT AN EXPANSION PAD! It's a support area with room for staging deliveries, trash, and recycling and two buildings supporting costuming for Star Wars Land and it's much smaller than their guestimate. If you tear these building down, you have to move them somewhere else that is reasonably close to SW:GE. And there are fewer options with every expansion.

There are so many details about this diagram that have been proven wrong. It is based on an early concept that had a two-level traffic flow. The alignment of the show buildings was obviously out of sync from the beginning. Yes, it gave us an early approximation of what the land would contain, but it must be taken with a grain of salt. This diagram suggests that the "future expansion" area is larger than the Falcon ride when it is actually more like half the size.

Yeah I dunno. You also said that the Mickey ride would never go takeover the backstage buildings behind Toontown so...
 

Old Mouseketeer

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The building they are going to have to demolish backstage is HUGE for the entertainment department. Changing rooms, hundred of lockers, cosmetology (wig) department, parade makeup rooms, break rooms and the entire parade costuming facility for the entire resort is located ONLY within the first floor of that building..... and that's excluding the other floors above it which are entertainment operations offices.... ALSO... there is a huge maintenance storage facility and a big parade prep area attached to the same building...... While I can believe the project has been green lit by higher ups, I can't imagine where the space is to relocate all these facilities once they break ground.....

A couple of my rebel spies have told me that no more than 25% of this space could be moved off-site. There are basically two final options to take space from the Northern backstage area. At least 50% of the 100 Building, which is the biggest building North of SW Land, is empty since merchandise receiving and picking has been moved to the Ontario warehouse. There is theoretically enough cubic footage to move the Entertainment building, although it would be logistically inferior. The other option is moving all of the ride vehicle maintenance shops off-site, which are just North of the Entertainment Buildings, but this would require trucking these vehicles over public streets. Both of these would require a 1-2--year lead time. I'm not sure if the Entertainment Building could be repurposed as the show building for MMRR.

If we're talking 2021 or 2022 for MMRR, it's possible. But there would be a lot of pain and suffering operationally between here and there.
 

BrianLo

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Oh, please!!! How many times do we have to explain MiceChat's error. IT'S NOT AN EXPANSION PAD! It's a support area with room for staging deliveries, trash, and recycling and two buildings supporting costuming for Star Wars Land and it's much smaller than their guestimate. If you tear these building down, you have to move them somewhere else that is reasonably close to SW:GE. And there are fewer options with every expansion.

There are so many details about this diagram that have been proven wrong. It is based on an early concept that had a two-level traffic flow. The alignment of the show buildings was obviously out of sync from the beginning. Yes, it gave us an early approximation of what the land would contain, but it must be taken with a grain of salt. This diagram suggests that the "future expansion" area is larger than the Falcon ride when it is actually more like half the size.

Yes that diagram is not accurate, but there is currently space to expand SW:GE in that general direction. Not to the size of the two attractions, but it's actually fairly large in the scale of Disneyland. I realize its in use currently, but not very efficiently and it could be easily reconfigured down the line.

I know you have deep CM ties, but I think you let your current knowledge of the backstage situation prevent you from understanding higher ups do not care and will continue to reconfigure as they see fit.
 
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Disney Irish

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If we're talking 2021 or 2022 for MMRR, it's possible. But there would be a lot of pain and suffering operationally between here and there.

I think the current rumors is that it would be 2021 or later before MMRR (or whatever its called at DLR) would be completed anyways.

So yes I think they are going to move more stuff off-site no matter the "pain" it causes. Also the rumors have been they will put some stuff in a basement floor.
 

Old Mouseketeer

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Yes that diagram is not accurate, but there is currently space to expand SW:GE in that general direction. Not to the size of the two attractions, but it's actually fairly large in the scale of Disneyland. I realize its in use currently, but not very effieicntly and it could be easily reconfigured down the line.

I know you have deep CM ties, but I think you let your current knowledge of the backstage situation prevent you from understanding higher ups do not care and will continue to reconfigure as they see fit.

I don't disagree. I am continually stunned by the lack of understanding of how executive decisions impact operations. Parades and fireworks are a logistical nightmare backstage. The corridor around small world and the RR/Monorail roundhouse is a bottleneck that brings traffic to a halt around the N/NE quadrant of the backstage area. Fireworks locks down all traffic, vehicle and pedestrian, and requires evacuation of second-floor offices and work areas. Cars can't exit TDA parking structure and CMs can't go home, all because Disney won't make the investment in hardening roofs and walkways/driveways.

If I implied that the NE corner of SW Land could NEVER be used for expansion, that is incorrect. What I mean to say is that these buildings and delivery/service areas would have to be replaced with decreasing options to do so. And if it's inefficient, that's because TDA does things on the cheap. No service facilities at DCA are in a basement and very few are even on the second floor. The Little Mermaid building is one of the rare exceptions. Yes, there are green warehouse buildings that have a second floor, but that's about it.
 

DisneyLostBoy03

Active Member
Greenlit.

The ride is going to be identical, but obviously the facade will be different as they're not plopping the Chinese Theater as-is into Toontown.
The attraction has been greenlit? YES! I am so thrilled by the news! Thank you so much! I have been hyped for this attraction ever since I heard about it when it was first announced. Even though the Disneyland version won't open until years later, I am willing to wait that long to ride this amazing attraction nonstop. :D
 

Timothy_Q

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But in Toontown, we are already in the toon world. It sounds like the premise of MMRR is that you are transported into the toon world.

Obviously a minor detail, I just wonder how they’ll incorporate that into it.
The premise of "getting from the real world into the cartoon world" is just the preshow.
The ride itself is all inside the cartoon.

For toontown, just changing the facade and preshow is enough to make it fit
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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Original Poster
I can’t believe it. They’re building an awesome new E ticket IN PLACE OF A SHOP and they’re not removing Toontown or any other ride for this.

This is so different from how they do things in Florida.

This is the result of TDA execs who are now laser focused on capacity, something their Florida brethren would be wise to get interested in.
 

VJ

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Is it weird that I'm happy Toontown isn't going to be affected (as much as what was originally rumored, at least) only because they'd have to re-record the Jack Wagner railroad announcements if it was?

I like Jack Wagner.
 

Timothy_Q

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Is it weird that I'm happy Toontown isn't going to be affected (as much as what was originally rumored, at least) only because they'd have to re-record the Jack Wagner railroad announcements if it was?

I like Jack Wagner.
I was under the impression the entire DL Railroad spiel got redone after the last refurbishment when they moved the tracks
 

mickEblu

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Is it weird that I'm happy Toontown isn't going to be affected (as much as what was originally rumored, at least) only because they'd have to re-record the Jack Wagner railroad announcements if it was?

I like Jack Wagner.

Love his voice. I need to try recording one of his spiels the next time I ride the DLRR at the park. For some reason the only clip available as a ringtone or on Disney albums is the original guy talking about the EP Ripley which isn’t as nostalgic for me.
 

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