Mickey’s Not-So-Scary Halloween Party 2020

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
Think of all the money they could save by combining the Christmas and Halloween Decor into one.
It's been done...
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Tom P.

Well-Known Member
Look, I get it. The party starts way before Halloween and there are lots of parties and they are expensive.

But it really is a smart strategy on Disney's part. They are defining the end of "summer" as the point at which most American kids are back in school, which is mid-August. From that point on, they use the Halloween party to draw the crowds in. And the evidence from the past several years shows that it works. People enjoy the parties. They want them. They spend tons of money on them. And what was previously a very slow month -- September -- is now reliably drawing in crowds.

It makes sense.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Look, I get it. The party starts way before Halloween and there are lots of parties and they are expensive.

But it really is a smart strategy on Disney's part. They are defining the end of "summer" as the point at which most American kids are back in school, which is mid-August. From that point on, they use the Halloween party to draw the crowds in. And the evidence from the past several years shows that it works. People enjoy the parties. They want them. They spend tons of money on them. And what was previously a very slow month -- September -- is now reliably drawing in crowds.

It makes sense.

You know who else spends tons of money? Normal guests. Normal guests who don't want to pay extra to enjoy MK at night. What about those guests? They can kick rocks I guess?

How many guests are simply buying these tickets because they know they have to if they want to enjoy the MK at all?
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
DAH catches so much less flack then the holiday parties and I can’t understand why. They are literal money grabs where Disney closes early throws in some Mickey bars and popcorn and calls it good. They also only last 3 hours.

The parties on the other hand have special parade, fireworks, shows, meet and greets, decor, mild ride overlays and themed free (and pay extra) snacks. They also now last 6 hours. You can complain about them being too crowded, but they are insanely popular for a reason and it’s not because they close access of to the Magic Kingdom (Princess and Pirate Party failure proves that along with the anemic reaction DAH year after year.)

I love these events and always buy a ticket if I’m there during them.
 

Jon81uk

Well-Known Member
DAH catches so much less flack then the holiday parties and I can’t understand why. They are literal money grabs where Disney closes early throws in some Mickey bars and popcorn and calls it good. They also only last 3 hours.

The parties on the other hand have special parade, fireworks, shows, meet and greets, decor, mild ride overlays and themed free (and pay extra) snacks. They also now last 6 hours. You can complain about them being too crowded, but they are insanely popular for a reason and it’s not because they close access of to the Magic Kingdom (Princess and Pirate Party failure proves that along with the anemic reaction DAH year after year.)

I love these events and always buy a ticket if I’m there during them.

The parties have more entertainment, but cause the park to close early, making it harder to see the fireworks with a regular tickets.
After Hours still allows regular ticket holders to see the fireworks etc and then the event takes place after hours, the park doesn't close any earlier than any other day during the same week.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
2020: 36 Halloween parties (top price - $149. Lowest price - $85)
2019: 36 Halloween parties
2018: 34 Halloween parties
2017: 32 Halloween parties
2016: 29 Halloween parties
2015: 25 Halloween parties (top price - $87)

I won't say they've reached "maximum density" with Halloween parties, but it's doing to be more difficult to squeeze more in without likely getting some "negative guest feedback" from the non-party guests.

I may need a spreadsheet for this and the Christmas party dates and prices. ;) And yes, I picked the years listed above for a reason - It shows the last year pre-Chapek (2015 I count as "pre-Chapek", as he hadn't had a chance to squeeze that particular money teat yet) and the years since he was installed as head of P&R/PEP.

Tickets on sale now for the 2020 Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party

I'm seeing $149 as the top adult price, on October 31?

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monothingie

Nakatomi Plaza Christmas Eve 1988. Never Forget.
Premium Member
2020: 36 Halloween parties (top price - $149. Lowest price - $85)
2019: 36 Halloween parties
2018: 34 Halloween parties
2017: 32 Halloween parties
2016: 29 Halloween parties
2015: 25 Halloween parties (top price - $87)

I won't say they've reached "maximum density" with Halloween parties, but it's doing to be more difficult to squeeze more in without likely getting some "negative guest feedback" from the non-party guests.

I may need a spreadsheet for this and the Christmas party dates and prices. ;) And yes, I picked the years listed above for a reason - It shows the last year pre-Chapek (2015 I count as "pre-Chapek", as he hadn't had a chance to squeeze that particular money teat yet) and the years since he was installed as head of P&R/PEP.



I'm seeing $149 as the top adult price, on October 31?

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This also doesn't figure in the massive increase in ticket inventory for the parties as well.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
Maybe they should add more? Or just have every night be a Halloween/Christmas party?

Im a little surprised they haven’t added a few dates to the Christmas Party after New Years but before the Epiphany, I’m sure marathon guests would enjoy the chance. However, August is probably the earliest for the Halloween Party. Christmas is the biggest holiday of the year, and Halloween is rapidly overtaking Thanksgiving to become the 2nd biggest holiday, there is no other current holiday that you could theme around that would be nearly as popular so no I dont think you can expand the dates much further.
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
Im a little surprised they haven’t added a few dates to the Christmas Party after New Years but before the Epiphany, I’m sure marathon guests would enjoy the chance. However, August is probably the earliest for the Halloween Party. Christmas is the biggest holiday of the year, and Halloween is rapidly overtaking Thanksgiving to become the 2nd biggest holiday, there is no other current holiday that you could theme around that would be nearly as popular so no I dont think you can expand the dates much further.

What's "Epiphany"? I'm joking. I'm Anglican. But I think most people think Christmas is over at midnight December 25.
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
And yet the “Twelve Days of Christmas” is one of the most popular Christmas songs to come from the country your religion was founded in.

Except I would bet most think it's a countdown to December 25. Sigh. . . But I know better. The decorations don't come down until January 6. (December 25 - January 5 are the 12 days of Christmas. January 6 is Epiphany).
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Im a little surprised they haven’t added a few dates to the Christmas Party after New Years but before the Epiphany, I’m sure marathon guests would enjoy the chance. However, August is probably the earliest for the Halloween Party. Christmas is the biggest holiday of the year, and Halloween is rapidly overtaking Thanksgiving to become the 2nd biggest holiday, there is no other current holiday that you could theme around that would be nearly as popular so no I dont think you can expand the dates much further.

It's hard selling a US-specific holiday based on history (Thanksgiving) to international visitors who have a hard time identifying with any of the cultural touchstones involved (Turkey really ? Lets put the guests into food comas). Halloween as Disneyworld Magic Kingdom does it, however, can be sold to about any nationality.... look at the number of Japanese tourists present as an example. Kawaii (かわいい) sells.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
And yet the “Twelve Days of Christmas” is one of the most popular Christmas songs to come from the country your religion was founded in.
And the girlfriend responds... and yes, this is a safe-for-work version:
 

JohnD

Well-Known Member
And the girlfriend responds... and yes, this is a safe-for-work version:

An oldie but a goodie. Hilarious. I've seen a similar version with, um, more colorful language. Together it's 364 total gifts.

12 (1x12) Partridges
22 (2x11) Turtle Doves
30 (3x10) French Hens
36 (4 x 9) Calling Birds
40 (5 x 8) Golden Rings
42 (6 x 7) Geese-a-laying
42 (7 x 6) Swans-a-swimming
40 (8 x 5) Maids-a-milking
36 (9 x 4) Ladies Dancing
30 (10x3) Lords-a-leaping
22 (11x2) Pipers piping
12 (12x1) Drummers drumming
364 gifts
 
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