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Travel Junkie

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The Kong AA looks great, but yet another 3D attraction. Some Universal fans get bent out of shape over criticism just like Disney fans, but the lack of variety in their attractions is legit. As someone who does get motion sick with screen based attractions, it is difficult to go to their parks and I really like IOA overall.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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The Kong AA looks great, but yet another 3D attraction. Some Universal fans get bent out of shape over criticism just like Disney fans, but the lack of variety in their attractions is legit. As someone who does get motion sick with screen based attractions, it is difficult to go to their parks and I really like IOA overall.

I agree. These days, the classic screen-less 3-D glasses-less relatively slow-moving elaborate AA-filled dark ride the E.T. Adventure (my favorite attraction since the closing of Kongfrontation) feels completely out place at Universal. I'm tired of the screens and 3D glasses.
 

Phroobar

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That shows how DCA 1.0 was ahead of the curve when it first opened. It had five movie based attractions! Eight if you count the Animation building, bakery and tortilla tours.
 
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What's the big deal about AAs in the 21st century? Not that I don't appreciate a well made AA figure, but I feel like to some extent they've been overused to the point that they've lost their uniqueness. The Kong figure is cool, but like most AAs he doesn't really do much, and he looks especially static after all the action in the preceding film.
 
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mickEblu

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What's the big deal about AAs in the 21st century? Not that I don't appreciate a well made AA figure, but I feel like to some extent they've been overused to the point that they've lost their uniqueness. The Kong figure is cool, but like most AAs he does really do much, and he looks especially static after all the action in the preceding film.

I think a nice combination of AAs, physical sets and screens is the best combo currently in making one feel they have been transported to another world. They key is how they all integrate though.

The cool part about AAs is that the only place you can really find them is at a theme park. (Unlike screens) IMO, the problem with most modern AAs is they have not advanced as far we think they should have by now. I have no doubt that when folks first saw the audio animatronics in the original POTC they were amazed. Most modern AAs dont have that wow factor anymore. They need to combine the AAs with special effects to achieve the WOW factor. Like that first Captain Sparrow AA in Shanghais POTC. (Still trying to figure out how they did that).

The new Kong is a decent AA, but it's placement is terrible. They place a lifeless Kong basically in the unloading zone, immediately after all that action? Very anti climatic. I get that a Kong AA would probably look too static in any action scenes, especially in comparison to the action on the screens but they could of revealed a huge Kong AA immediately before he fights with the dinosaurs and it would have added more weight to the those scenes. And that way the Kong AA at the end of ride would make more sense and not be such a let down. Of course there's that whole budget thing too.
 
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Rich T

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What's the big deal about AAs in the 21st century? Not that I don't appreciate a well made AA figure, but I feel like to some extent they've been overused to the point that they've lost their uniqueness. The Kong figure is cool, but like most AAs he does really do much, and he looks especially static after all the action in the preceding film.
Robots are cool and amazing in a way that CGI can't replicate. At this point, CGI can do anything on film and look believable (Jungle Book being the most recent highpoint). But now everyone knows that if it's on a screen and it couldn't be done in real life, it's CGI and that takes a lot of the wonder out of it (except when the story is so enthralling it could work in any medium--again, Jungle Book.) We see a giant dinosaur on a screen and we know it's CGI and we know it's done by talented animators, but it's no longer amazing as an effect in itself.

But the auctioneer on Pirates...He's *STILL* amazing to watch. Knowing it's all physical...all done with tiny hydraulics and mechanisms... that's still a wonder to behold. On a technically simpler level, it's the same with the elephants in the bathing pool on Jungle Cruise. They're magical, because they have physical presence. They're really there-- wonderful "living" sculptures sharing our physical world with us.

I'm frankly underwhelmed by the Kong head myself (he just looks annoyed), but I'm sure it looks cooler in person, and I'm glad it's not just another projection.

I wouldn't want to lose the wonders CGI can produce these days, but I do miss the pre-CGI days when if you saw something amazing in a live-action film, it was fun to try to figure out how it was done (original Indy and SW trilogies, Superman 1, Aliens, Mary Poppins, Wizard of Oz, etc.) I hope there's always room for some practical effects, real sets, real makeup and AA's. :)
 

Rich T

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One final example: The Gmork (the big werewolf thingy) in Neverending Story. Best, scariest, most enthralling monster ever to appear in a live action fantasy film, and he's all done with hydraulics and cables. He's extra fun these days because we know he's *not* CGI...that someone actually constructed and performed him. Put an equally good AA of him on a dark ride and he'd scare the bejeepers out of people.
 
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George Lucas on a Bench

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The old Kong AAs in Kongfrontation were incredible and obviously way better than this one, although I still like it. On Kongfrontation (which, if you remember, was a massive three-dimensional environment with stunning sets that were remarkably detailed--you could look into windows of the buildings and see details in the interiors) you got really close to those AAs and it appeared they even grabbed the tram.That was one of the coolest things I've ever experienced and right up there with the best attractions at Disney as far as I'm concerned. So naturally, they tore it down. I never forgave Universal for that. I never will.
 

Curious Constance

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The cool part about AAs is that the only place you can really find them is at a theme park.

I actually have seven AA "boyfriends" I've had made over the years. When I get annoyed with my husband, I rotate through them and go out on "dates" with the AA's. The conversation can get a bit repetitive and my body gets a bit sore having to carry them around from place to place, but I've had some really nice times out on the town with them.
 

dweezil78

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I think I'm less in need of AAs than just practical FX/sets in general. AAs are just one of many practical FX than can be utilized, but they ultimately do need to be good AAs for it to be worth it.

Universal used to be great about adding real fire, water, etc to their attractions amidst big expansive sets. I loved that stuff.
 

Andrew_Ryan

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I think I'm less in need of AAs than just practical FX/sets in general. AAs are just one of many practical FX than can be utilized, but they ultimately do need to be good AAs for it to be worth it.

Universal used to be great about adding real fire, water, etc to their attractions amidst big expansive sets. I loved that stuff.

Give me a big, immersive physical set with great lighting and effects over screens and lazily staged AAs any day. The beginning of Pirates is still amazing, and there is barely an animatronic in sight. I love AAs, but I feel like even in some of the best contemporary attractions, the set design is not as inspired or expansive as it could be.
 

dweezil78

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Give me a big, immersive physical set with great lighting and effects over screens and lazily staged AAs any day. The beginning of Pirates is still amazing, and there is barely an animatronic in sight. I love AAs, but I feel like even in some of the best contemporary attractions, the set design is not as inspired or expansive as it could be.

Totally. You know what really kills me? When they go to all this trouble to create a really amazing attraction like RSR, and then when you're in the show building, you look up and see boring show building panel ceiling and stage lights. ? Would it have really cost that much money to do something more interesting up there? That's the thing I love most about POTC. No matter where you look (for the most part), you're going to be totally immersed and see theming. They didn't skimp out anywhere.
 

yookeroo

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I actually have seven AA "boyfriends" I've had made over the years. When I get annoyed with my husband, I rotate through them and go out on "dates" with the AA's. The conversation can get a bit repetitive and my body gets a bit sore having to carry them around from place to place, but I've had some really nice times out on the town with them.

You may be confusing AA "boyfriends" with "boyfriends" that take AA batteries.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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Totally. You know what really kills me? When they go to all this trouble to create a really amazing attraction like RSR, and then when you're in the show building, you look up and see boring show building panel ceiling and stage lights. ***? Would it have really cost that much money to do something more interesting up there? That's the thing I love most about POTC. No matter where you look (for the most part), you're going to be totally immersed and see theming. They didn't skimp out anywhere.

I agree. Y'all remember how awful that scene in the Little Mermaid ride looked before they added the blacklight. Like, what? You can see all the infrastructure and crap. It's weird because the interior of the RSR isn't even that bright. It's a dark ride. Why do they need the lights all over the ceiling? On classics like POTC and HM, the WED geniuses found ways to conceal the lights.
 

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