MAXPass (upcharge mobile Fastpasses) coming to Disneyland...impacts to WDW?

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drizgirl

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21stamps said:
I've been going since the late '70s. We went in June, or Spring Break, every year and I always remember waiting in long lines for certain rides.

Maybe I've just always been unlucky?lol.
We weren't a rope drop family when I was a kid. And I still wasn't a rope drop person as an adult either.

ETA- this was my first year being at WDW in winter. I've heard that once upon a time those weeks used to be slow.
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21stamps said:
I'm only talking about WDW. I haven't been to Disneyland since I was 10. So I can't comment on their wait times.

You were lucky to experience that at WDW.
You must have gone during the off season, or right when the park opened. I've never experienced that before fast pass...always waited awhile for that ride.

I hated when the paper FP came out. I never used it. We didn't get to MK early... Arrived mid day and stayed late.
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I bolded the reason you never saw waits under 20 minutes for BTMRR.
 
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21stamps

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drizgirl said:
I bolded the reason you never saw waits under 20 minutes for BTMRR.
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Before FP, when I was a child visiting with my family.. we would get to the park shortly after opening. Not mid day, but never did see a rope drop.
On my adult trips with my husband or friends..when paper FP existed, lucky if we went before noon. Edit- and a trip in '06 with my niece and nephew. I was not prepared to do the parks with a 3 and 7 year old. There were not an FPs for anything that we wanted. It was crowded. It was hot. Too many people. The kids had ice cream all over them. It was hell.lol

I think I may have used a paper FP 10 times total. I prefer FP+ for sure. I definitely don't want to go back to pre FP days.

Just look at the amount of people that visit now vs 80s and 90s. The system needs to be there.
 
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Bandini

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21stamps said:
Before FP, when I was a child visiting with my family.. we would get to the park shortly after opening. Not mid day, but never did see a rope drop.
On my adult trips with my husband or friends..when paper FP existed, lucky if we went before noon.lol

I think I may have used a paper FP 10 times total. I prefer FP+ for sure. I definitely don't want to go back to pre FP days.

Just look at the amount of people that visit now vs 80s and 90s. The system needs to be there.
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I'm comparing FP with FP+, but I'm the opposite. I miss legacy FP.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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Bandini said:
I'm comparing FP with FP+, but I'm the opposite. I miss legacy FP.
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Yeah. It totally depends on your park style. As an adult we would only go for a day, at the most 3...but never MK more than once per trip. No kids with us so we would sit by the pool and have a few cocktails..then head to MK later and stay til close.

I don't think I've done a full open to close MK day since my childhood, not even with my own kid. I may have a breakdown...or at least nightly nightmares of strollers and scooters for the month. ;)
 
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doctornick

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One of the neat quirks regarding FP at DL is that you can get fastpasses for both parks and the systems are independent. So, it takes being a "runner" to a whole another level where one member of the group can run to the other park to get FPs for rides for later. You can get multiple FP that way (this was particularly huge when they did not enforce the end times so you could basically get a day's worth of passes at the other park and use them all later in the day at the second park).

So, I'm wondering: will this app work the same way? Can you be in DL and book a FP for DCA even though you just got one for DL? If so, that makes a big difference IMHO for the utility. You could book a RSR FP without having to deal with the huge rush for that while riding rides in DL.

Heck, you could go to DCA and be in line for RSR at rope drop and also be booking a FP at the same time on your phone for another ride later in the day.

Another question: will the Matterhorn and TSM be electronic FP only or are they installing the regular paper fastpass kiosks for them as well? I'd assume the latter but wasn't sure.
 
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drizgirl

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doctornick said:
One of the neat quirks regarding FP at DL is that you can get fastpasses for both parks and the systems are independent. So, it takes being a "runner" to a whole another level where one member of the group can run to the other park to get FPs for rides for later. You can get multiple FP that way (this was particularly huge when they did not enforce the end times so you could basically get a day's worth of passes at the other park and use them all later in the day at the second park).

So, I'm wondering: will this app work the same way? Can you be in DL and book a FP for DCA even though you just got one for DL? If so, that makes a big difference IMHO for the utility. You could book a RSR FP without having to deal with the huge rush for that while riding rides in DL.

Heck, you could go to DCA and be in line for RSR at rope drop and also be booking a FP at the same time on your phone for another ride later in the day.

Another question: will the Matterhorn and TSM be electronic FP only or are they installing the regular paper fastpass kiosks for them as well? I'd assume the latter but wasn't sure.
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I'd lay money they close the 2 park loophole when this goes live.

Verbiage in the comment section of the blog says there will be paper FPs for TSMM and Matterhorn.
 
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doctornick

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Another thought: if you just want photopass for your group, this is a bargain. One person in the group signs up for it for $10 a day and you get all the photos. Ignore the electronic FP and just use it for that.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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It looks like jailbroken phones will be a lot more popular for Disneyland fans in the future... to bypass the 'only when in the park' geofencing. I wonder if they might enforce that by saying you must be on the Disneyland Wifi to book... that will really keep things harder to bypass.
 
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drizgirl

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flynnibus said:
It looks like jailbroken phones will be a lot more popular for Disneyland fans in the future... to bypass the 'only when in the park' geofencing. I wonder if they might enforce that by saying you must be on the Disneyland Wifi to book... that will really keep things harder to bypass.
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There is no DL wifi.
 
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Bandini

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flynnibus said:
It looks like jailbroken phones will be a lot more popular for Disneyland fans in the future... to bypass the 'only when in the park' geofencing. I wonder if they might enforce that by saying you must be on the Disneyland Wifi to book... that will really keep things harder to bypass.
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What are jailbroken phones?
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

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IDInstitute said:
I get what you're saying, but my point is, if you want a fastpass you can get it just the same if you aren't paying for MaxPass. So they aren't really charging for the use of a fastpass, but rather for the Photopass service and the ability to use FP on a phone.
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Ok, I understand where you were coming from now. And I totally agree - No one is being forced to use the new MaxPass, and that is definitely a good thing. As was mentioned, this would have been a nice thing to have been implemented at WDW when MDE/FP+ was rolled out.

I also think we all know where something like this is going, between just the introduction of this at DL combined with words like "introductory pricing" and tying a for-pay service in with making FastPass reservations on a mobile device.

I will be very interested to see/hear what the reaction is of the DL AP crowd to this, and how much or how little they buy in to it.
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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flynnibus said:
It looks like jailbroken phones will be a lot more popular for Disneyland fans in the future... to bypass the 'only when in the park' geofencing. I wonder if they might enforce that by saying you must be on the Disneyland Wifi to book... that will really keep things harder to bypass.
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That would be my guess, that this will be tied to being on the Disney Wifi network in order to make FastPass reservations on the DL app. However, I don't have a ton of faith in Disney IT to be able to pull it off, at least initially.
 
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drizgirl

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I will be extremely disheartened if Disney goes live with this and there's a way around the GPS requirement to be in the parks. That will RUIN the system. I really hope the ticket has to be used to enter the park for this to work.

I'd like to think Disney will be on this, but given the massive loopholes in the WDW FP+ system, I have no confidence.
 

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