Marvel's Fantastic Four

[LSLS]

I suppose…I guess my expanded view of “casting” is eviscerating their stable of bankable star characters to where like…no one…is paying attention to marvel anymore.

But that’s more of a management/business decision it seems.

As far as fantastic four goes…I just don’t think it sells well as a movie. Comic book fans have always loved it…but we are now seeing there is a gigantic difference between the two

I don't really disagree. If I count as an average fan (someone who grew up with cartoons on Saturday that has never read a comic), Fantastic 4 mean nothing to me. Never watched their shows or movies, never really cared for them or even knew the backstory. But I also have felt like I was more a minority. After all, you could have said the same thing about me with Iron Man 15 years ago. I feel they COULD kick something off with them (but also agree they are still holding their trump card).

But, I think that is an issue too (needing a movie to kick things off). I know we sort of disagree about losing Captain America and Iron Man in that I don't think them being ended was a bad thing in and of itself. But I think you needed to push on with established characters being the center of the future (Spiderman for instance, should have been in everything. Thor and even Hulk should have been parts of other movies, etc.). This has felt like a throw everything against the wall and hope something sticks scenario. Nothing has really stuck, and now they are in a situation where they have to push F4 fast and HOPE that I am in fact the minority. And if that is the case, you need to be prepared to pepper those characters into a BUNCH of your upcoming slate.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I'm just happy that in the art, Reed and Sue look like they're having fun and flirting. A happy married couple. That's rare to find in superhero or action flicks.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Really feels like this is just coasting on Pascal's popularity in other franchises rather than the best casting for the role. (I don't know anything about the other three.)

Guess we'll find out in a couple of years...

 

[Disney Irish]

Guess we'll find out in a couple of years...

Only have to wait 18 months.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Only have to wait 18 months.

Really don't expect it to get done in 18 months. Expect it'll get pushed.

 

[Disney Irish]

Really don't expect it to get done in 18 months. Expect it'll get pushed.

I mean I guess it’s possible. But they can’t delay much more as it’s affecting everything else around it.

So unless there is some delay during filming this summer I don’t expect It to move again.

 

[Screamface]

The casting of Pedro is interesting. He never reads as intelligent on-screen or off-screen. I wonder if that will play into the choices they make with their interpretation of FF.

 

[Jedijax719]

Really don't expect it to get done in 18 months. Expect it'll get pushed.

If they've done most of the pre-production and assuming they have the script (which is extremely likely since they announced the main cast), they will probably film very very soon, like late spring or early summer. That will give them at least 8 months for post-production. They will easily be ready for release in July of next year.

 

[doctornick]

If they've done most of the pre-production and assuming they have the script (which is extremely likely since they announced the main cast), they will probably film very very soon, like late spring or early summer. That will give them at least 8 months for post-production. They will easily be ready for release in July of next year.

And that’s the kind of timeframe that the MCU typically had for their productions pre- pandemic

 

[jpinkc]

I will be thrilled if they treat it right. Its an ENSEMBLE CAST. Yes Reed is the leader of the team, but they are also a Family. No ONE character should be the focus. It should focus on the Group if you dont want to call it a Family. I saw lots of rumors saying otherwise and I hope thats not true.

 

[capsshield]

In the beginning the ff had two things going for them. They were a forged family trying to stay together and they were explorers. Reed and Sue were trying to be a couple and Ben and Johnny Friends or brothers.
They introduced the readers to the Marvel universe. They brought us to subterranean worlds, Laveria, Atlantis, wakanda, Attillan, Monster Island, The Negative zone, the Blue Zone on the moon, and brought the cosmos to Earth.

Marvel needs to get this one right.

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

Assuming I wasn't already completely burnt out on superhero movies, Fantastic Four would be a pass. I could never get into it.

 

[DCBaker]

Deadline reports Julia Garner has joined the cast of The Fantastic Four as the Silver Surfer.

"With the four actors set to play the iconic members of the super team, Marvel Studios‘ The Fantastic Four now has its sights set on who will play Silver Surfer, and it looks like they are going with one of the towns biggest rising stars.

Sources tell Deadline that Emmy winner Julia Garner is set to play the iconic comic book character in Marvel Studios’ The Fantastic Four. Pedro Pascal will play Reed Richards (aka Mr. Fantastic), Vanessa Kirby is Sue Storm (aka the Invisible Woman), Joseph Quinn is Johnny Storm (aka the Human Torch) and Ebon Moss-Bachrach is Ben Grimm (aka the Thing)."

‘The Fantastic Four’: Julia Garner Joins Marvel Studios Movie As A Shalla-Bal Version Of Silver Surfer

Julia Garner will play Silver Surfer in Marvel Studios' 'Fantastic Four' movie

deadline.com

 

[doctornick]

Not a good move on their part. Given the scrutiny they are under by the general public, I think gender swapping a character is not ideal and will turn some potential customers off. If they really wanted a female herald why not use Nova (Frankie Raye)?

 

[Disney Irish]

Not a good move on their part. Given the scrutiny they are under by the general public, I think gender swapping a character is not ideal and will turn some potential customers off. If they really wanted a female herald why not use Nova (Frankie Raye)?

Well since they aren't doing the Norrin Radd version I'm not sure how its gender swapping. This will be the Shalla-Bal version who in the comics is Norrin's lover and also becomes as a twin herald along side Norrin. I'm guessing they'll just drop the whole Norrin love story and just have her be the primary herald.

 

[doctornick]

Well since they aren't doing the Norrin Radd version I'm not sure how its gender swapping. This will be the Shalla-Bal version who in the comics is Norrin's lover and also becomes as a twin herald along side Norrin. I'm guessing they'll just drop the whole Norrin love story and just have her be the primary herald.

I understand this, but it will still be viewed as off brand Silver Surfer. There’s already complains about having to resort to lesser characters as to why the MCU is floundering and this isn’t going to help.

Personally, I don’t care who they use, but this seems like a poor decision to me if they hope to reverse their box office issues.

 

[Disney Irish]

I understand this, but it will still be viewed as off brand Silver Surfer. There’s already complains about having to resort to lesser characters as to why the MCU is floundering and this isn’t going to help.

Personally, I don’t care who they use, but this seems like a poor decision to me if they hope to reverse their box office issues.

Maybe they’ll have both Norrin and Shalla-Bal in the movie. Just have to wait to see what happens.

 

[erasure fan1]

I understand this, but it will still be viewed as off brand Silver Surfer. There’s already complains about having to resort to lesser characters as to why the MCU is floundering and this isn’t going to help.

Personally, I don’t care who they use, but this seems like a poor decision to me if they hope to reverse their box office issues.

Agreed. While the silver surfer isn't some super A-list character, he is by far most well known as a male character. Very few outside of the comics crowd know of any other version. The Norrin version should be what they focus on, then add in the other version later. Right or wrong, this will most likely get a lot of criticism as a "See, Disney just can't help themselves with this gender swapping". I'll be very interested to see how the reactions go.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Who Is Marvel's Shalla-Bal? New Silver Surfer Explained

Here's what you need to know about Julia Garner's MCU character.

comicbook.com

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

From that article, I found this part rather interesting-

"Although Shalla-Bal has largely been portrayed as a humanoid alien ruler in the main Marvel canon, she did become the Silver Surfer in the separate continuity of the Earth X miniseries. In a brief appearance in the issue, both Shalla-Bal and Norrin were both given the Power Cosmic and dubbed the twin-heralds of a new Galactus, Franklin Richards, only for Shalla-Bal to quickly be killed."

So, this character has been mostly portrayed as a humanoid alien ruler of some place, and in an separate continuity for a "brief appearance" she was given the power the Silver Surfer has and was quickly killed.

So, she's not the Silver Surfer. She's Shalla-Bal. This has some sniffs of going over as well as Dar-Benn in The Marvels.