Marvel's Fantastic Four

[doctornick]

As a movies-only Marvel fan, The Fantastic Four are a D-minus IP in my mind.

And Silver Surfer is an F.

Vague memories of crap movies.

If next year’s movie is great, I’ll be thrilled because I love most of the MCU and hope it gets its mojo back.

16 years ago, I thought “Who cares about Iron Man?” And then had an awesome time at the movie theatre that sparked an incredible cinematic journey.

I get it, but I truly think the Fantastic Four are a very underrated property that when executed well can be a massive crowd pleasure. I'd even say that in general the "vibe" of the FF as a squabbling family is totally in the wheelhouse for Disney.

But of course implementation is key. I'm mostly nervous about how they are going to connect this to the rest of the MCU since I think it would do better allowing it to "breath" as its own thing instead of multiversing it to the mainstream MCU right away. I feel like The First Avenger had that problem where it was too rushed to get him to get to the present at the end and it would have been nice to have some other adventures during WWII (though it worked very well for the larger story, but I think took away a bit from Captain America).

 

[erasure fan1]

I get it, but I truly think the Fantastic Four are a very underrated property that when executed well can be a massive crowd pleasure.

That's exactly it, it's all about how well the film is executed. I fully admit I didn't think guardians would do as well as it did when they announced it. Or Ant-Man would connect with the general public. Heck, most people wouldn't have thought ironman would have been that successful. Anyone of marvels part one films could have gone the other way. But the films were all fun engaging films that were well put together.

So I have no doubt fantastic 4 can be great. I'm a bit unsure about Pedro as Richards but if it's done right, it has all the potential on the world.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Your incorrect memory of the world is sad.

If the only way your ideology makes sense is if you pretend well-documented historical events never happened, perhaps it’s time to question your ideology.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

I don't base my perception of the world on a few fringe idiots that don't matter and never did matter. It's a pessimistic, dangerous, and grossly misinformed way to base ones idealogy.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I don't base my perception of the world on a few fringe idiots that don't matter and never did matter. It's a pessimistic, dangerous, and grossly misinformed way to base ones idealogy.

Yes, you ignore things that are inconvenient or uncomfortable for you. Fantasy is always easier. That's why superhero movies are so much fun. But it's incredibly destructive to pretend fantasy is reality.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

It's not ignoring, it's not focusing on defining my beliefs by them. I don't have a malicious view of the world like you do.

We're beyond such disgusting topics as the ones you focus on all the time but people like you hold us back as you use them in a veiled attempt to badmouth others.

 

[Casper Gutman]

It's not ignoring, it's not focusing on defining my beliefs by them. I don't have a malicious view of the world like you do.

We're beyond such disgusting topics as the ones you focus on all the time but people like you hold us back as you use them in a veiled attempt to badmouth others.

I’m tremendously optimistic about this country. Part of that optimism is acknowledging the dark, broken parts of our history where we have failed to live up to our founding ideals and seeking to do better in the future. Ignoring that history, engaging in the tremendous bad faith of pretending it is “malicious” to acknowledge it, isn’t optimism, it’s deception often born out of a desire to perpetuate those negative aspects, to shield them from criticism.

Anyway, on the topic of optimism, we got a selection from the FF soundtrack at D23. I love it. One of my quibbles with the MCU is the lack of great character themes… we need more stuff like this.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Trailer premiere during Good Morning America on ABC this Tuesday…

 

[DCBaker]

Teaser for The Fantastic Four: First Steps:

"The Future Foundation invites you to take your first steps into a fantastic new era.Launch coverage begins Feb at AM PT | 7AM ET."

 

[Prince-1]

This looks awesome.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

Now that's a solid trailer

 

[Casper Gutman]

Badly cut trailer, but that’s the dang Fantastic Four. Nails every note. I’m very excited.

 

[LSLS]

SO, bit contrarian here, but that did very little for me. I'm not really a F4 fan, so take that into major account, but for me, I need more on plot/story/villain. Just a teaser so I'm not going to judge the movie off this (not even a little), but just to give a bit of an opposite perspective from someone who's not a huge fan of the franchise.

That said, I can see why many here would be excited. I rewatched it, and if they did one like this with say X-Men, I'd be beyond excited, so I get it. It just personally didn't get me excited, nor did it really pump me up.

 

[Casper Gutman]

SO, bit contrarian here, but that did very little for me. I'm not really a F4 fan, so take that into major account, but for me, I need more on plot/story/villain. Just a teaser so I'm not going to judge the movie off this (not even a little), but just to give a bit of an opposite perspective from someone who's not a huge fan of the franchise.

That said, I can see why many here would be excited. I rewatched it, and if they did one like this with say X-Men, I'd be beyond excited, so I get it. It just personally didn't get me excited, nor did it really pump me up.

Teasers normally don’t emphasize plot (look at the M3gan 2 teaser that was just released), but as someone with some knowledge of comics, I’d think the looming Galactus helmet would indicate villain and the broad plot outline.

 

[LSLS]

Teasers normally don’t emphasize plot (look at the M3gan 2 teaser that was just released), but as someone with some knowledge of comics, I’d think the looming Galactus helmet would indicate villain and the broad plot outline.

Yup, totally get that, again, the teaser is obviously MUCH more for you guys than someone like me, and I definitely haven't judged it yet.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Yup, totally get that, again, the teaser is obviously MUCH more for you guys than someone like me, and I definitely haven't judged it yet.

Are you familiar with Galactus?

 

[doctornick]

The actor choices seem a little off to me but the tone and vibe of the film is outstanding. It's a short clip but seemed to really embrace what makes the FF them. I love they have a real Galactus. And I think the retro vibe works well given their origin of being space explorers which was created during the real live Space Race* though I hope it isn't too heavy handed when they bring them to the mainstream MCU.


*are there any plans for them to have the Red Ghost hinted at? It would make sense if they want to do a teaser for him that they do it in this film when the FF are doing there space travel.

 

[Casper Gutman]

The actor choices seem a little off to me but the tone and vibe of the film is outstanding. It's a short clip but seemed to really embrace what makes the FF them. I love they have a real Galactus. And I think the retro vibe works well given their origin of being space explorers which was created during the real live Space Race* though I hope it isn't too heavy handed when they bring them to the mainstream MCU.


*are there any plans for them to have the Red Ghost hinted at? It would make sense if they want to do a teaser for him that they do it in this film when the FF are doing there space travel.

John Malcovich is in the teaser as the Red Ghost, although I suspect he’ll be dispatched in a montage.

 

[LSLS]

Are you familiar with Galactus?

A little bit. I know the look and a BIT about him (mainly that he's super powerful. I did go back and see what you were talking about, I didn't connect it my first viewing.

I will say, my biggest takeaway from how I rank MCU movies is that the villain is as important as the heroes. If he's the main thing here, it's got potential for me to really like this movie. BUT, I also seem to dislike the space-feeling ones as well, so who knows. Anyways, I'm looking forward to a full trailer on this to see what it's all about.

 

[erasure fan1]

The actor choices seem a little off to me but the tone and vibe of the film is outstanding.

100% agree. Hopefully with the full trailer the actors will click a bit better in their roles. I thought Pedro was a strange pick for Reed, and this trailer didn't really help that. That said, you're spot on, the tone was really good.