Marvel Studios’ Thunderbolts*

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

The more I see of this, the more fun it looks. Loved the trailer.

Granted, I think Black Widow is an unappreciated comedy gem. Or maybe just David Harbour in that film/role. I could watch two hours of Alexei and never stop laughing. Love him.

My hopes continue to dim for anything more than a cameo at this point, but still needs more Zemo.

 

[Disney Irish]

The more I see of this, the more fun it looks. Loved the trailer.

Granted, I think Black Widow is an unappreciated comedy gem. Or maybe just David Harbour in that film/role. I could watch two hours of Alexei and never stop laughing. Love him.

My hopes continue to dim for anything more than a cameo at this point, but still needs more Zemo.

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Yelena has the best lines.....

 

[erasure fan1]

We'll see how this goes, but I don't think you're going to see a bunch of people lost not knowing what is happening if they didn't do "homework".

The question is not will they be lost, the question is will they go in the first place. People were invested heavily in the infinity saga, not so much with the multiverse saga. So will people show up for Bucky? They might, I love the character. If the perception is, who are these characters and why should I care, then it might be an issue. If the movie jumps out with fantastic reviews, it won't really matter. The marvels bombed opening week and the fact it wasn't a quality movie didn't help. I do think if it was just Captain marvel 2, it does better, even with similar quality.

Putting 2 D+ characters front and center hurt it for sure, I heard that A LOT with people I know. And based on how it did, I don't think I'm the only one who saw that. Especially with the engagement during this post endgame run. Trust me, I want this to do well. I love Bucky, Yelena and Red guardian were great. So I've got high hopes.

 

[Disney Irish]

The question is not will they be lost, the question is will they go in the first place. People were invested heavily in the infinity saga, not so much with the multiverse saga. So will people show up for Bucky? They might, I love the character. If the perception is, who are these characters and why should I care, then it might be an issue. If the movie jumps out with fantastic reviews, it won't really matter. The marvels bombed opening week and the fact it wasn't a quality movie didn't help. I do think if it was just Captain marvel 2, it does better, even with similar quality.

Putting 2 D+ characters front and center hurt it for sure, I heard that A LOT with people I know. And based on how it did, I don't think I'm the only one who saw that. Especially with the engagement during this post endgame run. Trust me, I want this to do well. I love Bucky, Yelena and Red guardian were great. So I've got high hopes.

Well this question you have will be answered soon enough. However since this is one of the two MCU movies in 2025 not dealing with the Multiverse and also a team up movie I have a feeling it'll do better then you think.

Also you really are down on these D+ shows. The movie appears to be centering around Yelena and Bucky. So I don't think you really have to worry it'll be a repeat of The Marvels. Also now that its all said and done The Marvels actually was better received than what the box office showed. Once it hit digital and given a chance its audience scores rose overall.

 

[erasure fan1]

However since this is one of the two MCU movies in 2025 not dealing with the Multiverse and also a team up movie I have a feeling it'll do better then you think.

Here's the thing, I didn't say it was going to do bad. I said, if it's going to have a stumbling block, it could be because of characters a lot of people don't really know. Appearing as homework.

There was two sides to what I said. One, I hope it does well and I thought it has a lot of potential and I really like a few of the characters. And two, I think if it does struggle, that could be because of a perception of homework. I'm not being negative at all to the film, or trying to bring it down. I think I have a pretty fair and balanced way of looking at it.

Also you really are down on these D+ shows.

Sort of. I don't think they've really done anything to really grab the attention of the avid marvel movie watcher. That's why I say, could be. I don't think any of the D+ marvel has been great. There's been some good, a bunch of average, and some really bad. Disney has struggled making a solid series. Even Mando had a struggle with consistency in season 3. Muppets mayhem was fantastic if you're a Muppets fan, but it didn't get the traffic. We all know how willow went. So all in all D+ tv has been a real mixed bag.

 

[Disney Irish]

Here's the thing, I didn't say it was going to do bad. I said, if it's going to have a stumbling block, it could be because of characters a lot of people don't really know. Appearing as homework.

There was two sides to what I said. One, I hope it does well and I thought it has a lot of potential and I really like a few of the characters. And two, I think if it does struggle, that could be because of a perception of homework. I'm not being negative at all to the film, or trying to bring it down. I think I have a pretty fair and balanced way of looking at it.

Sort of. I don't think they've really done anything to really grab the attention of the avid marvel movie watcher. That's why I say, could be. I don't think any of the D+ marvel has been great. There's been some good, a bunch of average, and some really bad. Disney has struggled making a solid series. Even Mando had a struggle with consistency in season 3. Muppets mayhem was fantastic if you're a Muppets fan, but it didn't get the traffic. We all know how willow went. So all in all D+ tv has been a real mixed bag.

Sorry but I feel that outside of maybe Secret Invasion and She-Hulk (both of which I actually liked overall for what they tried to do) I think the Marvel D+ shows have been fairly good, and mostly well received. Wandavision and Loki for example were two of the top rated shows, even Ms. Marvel was well regarded. That may not be how you feel, but as they say "your mileage may vary". As far as the other D+ shows you brought up, they have no relevance here as I was only talking about you being down on the Marvel shows.

As for this movie, when you raise concerns such as "needing homework" and "people not so much invested in the Multiverse Saga", that comes across as rather negative toward its potential performance. So I'll just say I see that you want the movie to do well overall, but feel that your concerns don't currently seem to be warranted since there doesn't appear to be much "homework" or investment into the Multiverse story required.

The movie that your concerns would be warranted in my opinion is CA:Brave New World. As that may have people thinking they may need to do more "homework", though I think it'll end up doing better than expected. But this film, I'm not feeling your concerns at all so far from what I've seen of the trailer.

 

[LSLS]

I'm excited for the movie, but that trailer did absolutely nothing for me. I can't really pinpoint it, but I never felt goosebumps or real excitement watching it. It feels like they are building Yelena to be the next MCU star which I really like, but that teaser just didn't make me feel like this is must watch at all.

 

[Phroobar]

I'm excited for the movie, but that trailer did absolutely nothing for me. I can't really pinpoint it, but I never felt goosebumps or real excitement watching it. It feels like they are building Yelena to be the next MCU star which I really like, but that teaser just didn't make me feel like this is must watch at all.

I think it we have no idea what is going on. They did show the bad guy but not in any final form or him doing anything. It is the assembling of the Dark Avengers team by Elaine. They are probably taking on Newman. Nothing feels epic like the first Avengers movie because everyone is c-list anti-hero.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Yelena has the best lines.....

Every woman I know:

That movie is really underrated. Honestly, I think the First Family of Marvel will really have to step it up to match the family scenes in Black Widow.

 

[DCBaker]

Here's a new look at Thunderbolts*:

 

[sedati]

Here's a new look at Thunderbolts*:

That trailer hooked me.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Even if they disappoint me with no Zemo, I'm gonna stupid love this movie.

 

[DCBaker]

New trailer:



Poster:

 

[Phroobar]

Everything is better with more Bob.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

This just keeps looking better and better to me*. Especially with that trailer hinting the title's asterisk is just because of them fighting over their team name. I'm fine with that being the joke of okay, we'll call ourselves that for now but it's not necessarily the final team name. Not so much if it turns out to be "Thunderbolts: The Beginning: Part I: Featuring Bucky and the Gang"

* but still missing Zemo

 

[erasure fan1]

I gotta say, I have no idea how this plays out at the box office, but I really am looking forward to this one. I've always liked Bucky, Yelena and red guardian we're standouts in Widow. So I'm hoping it's as fun as it could be.

 

[Phroobar]

I still have no idea why Ghost is in there. How many stealth assassins do they need?

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

I'm a sucker for "team up" movies so I'm excited for this. Way more than Captain America

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Post-Brave New World’s divisive reception maybe potentially leading to it underperforming, if I were Disney, I’d make sure this movie’s box office is saved by having 1-week early free first-come first serve IMAX screenings like they did with Shang-Chi and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 to show they have faith in this movie and that it will be that great a movie with the team behind Beef behind it via Director Jake Schreier and two of the three writers on this movie being from Beef.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

I gotta say, I have no idea how this plays out at the box office, but I really am looking forward to this one. I've always liked Bucky, Yelena and red guardian we're standouts in Widow. So I'm hoping it's as fun as it could be.

I’m thinking it does $450M WW against a $150M budget, a modest success to prevent it from being labeled a flop.