Marvel in Hollywood Studios?

FrankLapidus

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Feeding trolls are prohibited and punishable by being forced to listen to JT rants for 48 hours, nonstop, with no sleep, in a dark cell...

A fate that is truly worse than death...

Is there any way that a link to the Disney/Marvel/Universal contract can be posted on the main page of the forum so that we can avoid all of this happening again next week and the week after and the week after that, etc?
 

Captain Chaos

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The Amazing Spider-man: worldwide total $752,216,577

Thor: worldwide total $449,326,618

Captain America: worldwide total $368,608,363

But The Amazing Spider-man was not a success...
 

CJR

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I can't wait for Mickey Mouse attractions at Universal since that is how public domain apparently works.

That would be crazy. Don't rule it out though. Disney did it to Warner Brothers with Oz, which could also end up in Disney's parks. Warner Brother still have the rights to the film MGM made, but if Disney bases everything off the book series, they can technically do whatever they want. The same would probably apply to Mickey or Marvel characters (or any characters for that matter).
 

elchippo

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It's much easier for Disney to collect money from Universal for the use of the Marvel attractions that already exist than to shell out MILLIONS to develop their own attractions...
 

CJR

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It's much easier for Disney to collect money from Universal for the use of the Marvel attractions that already exist than to shell out MILLIONS to develop their own attractions...

Plus, they can just create new characters. I know it's hard for companies to do anything original now days, but if they really wanted Marvel in WDW, that would probably be the easiest way.

My question is here is, would it be possible for Universal to claim rights to any new Marvel character that is made? I know the family clause and all, but what would stop them from tossing something new into IoA? Is the contract limited to the current characters or does it leave room to for Universal to obtain more rights through future additions?
 

lebeau

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That would be crazy. Don't rule it out though. Disney did it to Warner Brothers with Oz, which could also end up in Disney's parks. Warner Brother still have the rights to the film MGM made, but if Disney bases everything off the book series, they can technically do whatever they want. The same would probably apply to Mickey or Marvel characters (or any characters for that matter).

That is never going to happen. They will continue extending those copyrights forever.

The Copyright Term Extension Act (CTEA) of 1998 extended copyright terms in the United States. Since the Copyright Act of 1976, copyright would last for the life of the author plus 50 years, or 75 years for a work of corporate authorship. The Act extended these terms to life of the author plus 70 years and for works of corporate authorship to 120 years after creation or 95 years after publication, whichever endpoint is earlier.[1] Copyright protection for works published prior to January 1, 1978, was increased by 20 years to a total of 95 years from their publication date.
This law, also known as the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act, Sonny Bono Act, or as the Mickey Mouse Protection Act,[2] effectively "froze" the advancement date of the public domain in the United States for works covered by the older fixed term copyright rules. Under this Act, additional works made in 1923 or afterwards that were still protected by copyright in 1998 will not enter the public domain until 2019 or afterward (depending on the date of the product) unless the owner of the copyright releases them into the public domain prior to that. Unlike copyright extension legislation in the European Union, the Sonny Bono Act did not revive copyrights that had already expired. The Act did extend the terms of protection set for works that were already copyrighted, and is retroactive in that sense. However, works created before January 1, 1978, but not published or registered for copyright until recently, are addressed in a special section (17 U.S.C. § 303) and may remain protected until the end of 2047. The Act became Pub.L. 105–298 on October 27, 1998.
 

CJR

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That is never going to happen. They will continue extending those copyrights forever.

Very interesting. I'm glad though, because I would hate Mickey to be anywhere but Disney, that seems wrong. So the current rights expire in 2019? Disney can then push to re-extend them then. I like that, actually.

Still for Marvel, the thing is that eventually, if they wanted it in the parks, they could make it happen. They would essentially give up any exclusive rights they have, which would be incredibly stupid, but they could. However, it's pointless to argue anything like that further since, again, it would be stupid of them.

Good find!
 

lebeau

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Plus, they can just create new characters. I know it's hard for companies to do anything original now days, but if they really wanted Marvel in WDW, that would probably be the easiest way.

My question is here is, would it be possible for Universal to claim rights to any new Marvel character that is made? I know the family clause and all, but what would stop them from tossing something new into IoA? Is the contract limited to the current characters or does it leave room to for Universal to obtain more rights through future additions?

Universal has the rights to newly created characters that are part of one of the existing families. So if Marvel creates a popular new Avenger, Universal has the rights.

For Disney to have the rights, Marvel needs to create something wholly unrelated to the X-Men, Avengers, Fantastic Four or Spider-man. Basically, they need to start a completely separate line of books which would have nothing in common with what fans consider to be Marvel. It would almost certainly fail (as several attempts to do so have failed in the past). But even if it succeeded, it wouldn't really be Marvel.

Disney doesn't need Marvel to create content that is in no way connected to Marvel. They already have The Incredibles for that.
 

Bparso87

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Where Hulk eats people? I'd love to see Disney's take on that!
Yes would be cool can u imagine the possibilities. And with the changes like with Spider-Man is it the name of the character r the persons name could we not just have a doc oct Spider-Man like it is now in the comics?
 

jt04

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Show me some evidence of this beyond a quote that was clearly meant to calm shareholders who thought Disney overpaid for Marvel. Because I have decades of history that suggests that you are completely wrong.

Stay tuned....

Might want to become a regular reader of the Blue Sky Disney blog also. Then you will be up to speed.
 

CJR

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Disney doesn't need Marvel to create content that is in no way connected to Marvel. They already have The Incredibles for that.

So true. Given how long it's been, they have missed out on a huge opportunity with The Incredibles. Hopefully, they will do something with them eventually.
 

lebeau

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My understanding is they have to do sequels to retain the rights.

That is correct. Or they could always reboot again later. But they have to keep making Spider-man movies to retain the rights. Movies like this one:

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Even if Sony has a Spider-flop at the box office some day, they aren't going to let that cash cow slip away. Not ever.
 

GLaDOS

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Yes would be cool can u imagine the possibilities. And with the changes like with Spider-Man is it the name of the character r the persons name could we not just have a doc oct Spider-Man like it is now in the comics?

No. Doc Ock is part of the Spider-man family, is the main antagonist in the Universal ride, and is therefore off limits.

Miles Morales is "Spider-man" so he'd be off limits as well.
 

Bparso87

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No. Doc Ock is part of the Spider-man family, is the main antagonist in the Universal ride, and is therefore off limits.

Miles Morales is "Spider-man" so he'd be off limits as well.
Yes I know but there should only be one Spider-Man same as batman hated Grayson as batman.
 

GLaDOS

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