Marvel in Hollywood Studios?

lebeau

lebeau

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CJR said:
So you're asking, why wouldn't Disney take an opportunity (that they have) to keep tourists from going to Universal Orlando? I don't really see how that would result in bad press. Disney owns Marvel and does have the right to act in its best interest even if the agreement was in place before they purchased it. I doubt Disney would go in trying to lose a case, but that would be the worst that would happen. Either way, they would keep Universal from building a huge attraction at their park either permanently or temporarily.
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Sorry, you just don't get it.

Disney abhors bad press. And they would be made to look like Dr. Doom if they pulled something like this. For what? To delay the inevitable.

Disney benefits from the success of Marvel Super Hero Island. There is no reason for them to give themslves a PR black eye while shooting themselves in the foot.
 
Captain Chaos

Captain Chaos

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CJR said:
So you're asking, why wouldn't Disney take an opportunity (that they have) to keep tourists from going to Universal Orlando? I don't really see how that would result in bad press. Disney owns Marvel and does have the right to act in its best interest even if the agreement was in place before they purchased it. I doubt Disney would go in trying to lose a case, but that would be the worst that would happen. Either way, they would keep Universal from building a huge attraction at their park either permanently or temporarily.
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But tourists aren't stopping from going to IOA... Delaying a Marvel themed attraction will NOT hurt IOA's business.. As long as Potter is around, IOA will not hurt...

The only ones who would be hurt in a dispute would be Disney... Bad press.. They would be made to look like idiots...

And if Disney really wanted to keep tourists from going to Universal, they would have gotten the rights to Potter...
 
CJR

CJR

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lebeau said:
Sorry, you just don't get it.

Disney abhors bad press. And they would be made to look like Dr. Doom if they pulled something like this. For what? To delay the inevitable.

Disney benefits from the success of Marvel Super Hero Island. There is no reason for them to give themslves a PR black eye while shooting themselves in the foot.
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I don't see how they would get bad press. They might get press, but why would it be bad just because they defended a property they own? I mean, if they went in like morons, yeah, but I doubt they would do that.

To everyone who I've had the pleasure to chat with tonight, for the record, I'm not saying Disney would actually take Universal to court, but that if they did, they would have reason. Perhaps my reasons aren't good, that's not my point, I'm saying that if Disney were to, it would be.

Would Disney find it in their interest to do it, I don't know, but if they found interest and went there, it doesn't mean they would absolutely lose and that's my point. They could find reason and if they do, they could move forward with a legal battle.


dxer07002 said:
And if Disney really wanted to keep tourists from going to Universal, they would have gotten the rights to Potter...
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OK, you got me there. I can't disagree with that one.
 
lebeau

lebeau

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CJR said:
I don't see how they would get bad press. They might get press, but why would it be bad just because they defended a property they own? I mean, if they went in like morons, yeah, but I doubt they would do that.

To everyone who I've had the pleasure to chat with tonight, for the record, I'm not saying Disney would actually take Universal to court, but that if they did, they would have reason. Perhaps my reasons aren't good, that's not my point, I'm saying that if Disney were to, it would be.

Would Disney find it in their interest to do it, I don't know, but if they found interest and went there, it doesn't mean they would absolutely lose and that's my point. They could find reason and if they do, they could move forward with a legal battle.
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If Disney had good reason, they would go to court. But Universal won't give them good reason because they aren't stupid either. Plus, it's not in their best interests to use the characters inappropriately.

You were saying Disney can use this clause to prevent Universal from building new Marvel attractions. They can't. They could cause delays, but if that is their only intent they would be stupid to do so. They would be made to look bad in the press. And they would gain nothing for their trouble.

Basically, Universal has an obligation to treat the characters well. Beyond that, they can and will do whatever they want for as long as they want.
 
CJR

CJR

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dxer07002 said:
And you would be wrong...
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Then I would be, but I've been wrong about more important things than that so I'm OK with that.

WDWGoof07 said:
There's nothing to defend. Disney knew about the contract when the bought Marvel. A legal snarl would just make it look like Disney is trying to weasel out of a contract or unfairly preventing Universal from exercising their exclusive rights. They really don't have anything to gain by pursuing this. And that is exactly why they are not pursuing it; they are content to just let Marvel collect the yearly fee and to reap residual benefits to movie ticket and merchandise sales that might occur.
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You have a good point and if I were Disney, I would do the same thing. My mind's decades out there and thinking in terms of various things that could happen over the years and while there might not be anything to defend now, the possibility could always arise at some point and that is where my argument has been from the beginning (decades out). It might seem unlikely, but such things have occurred before, although they are rare. Universal's doing a great job now, but they might not always be. For now, your comment is 100% correct though.
 
Goofyernmost

Goofyernmost

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ALERT: I have it from very reliable sources that I am very tired and will be closing down shop and catching a few Z's. You can take that news flash to the bank. Have a good night everyone!:)
 
lebeau

lebeau

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Goofyernmost said:
ALERT: I have it from very reliable sources that I am very tired and will be closing down shop and catching a few Z's. You can take that news flash to the bank. Have a good night everyone!:)
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Good idea. I shall follow your lead. Work beckons in the AM.

Evil doers, you have approximately 9 hours to concoct your wild WDW Marvel theories unchallenged. Use them well.
 
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doctornick

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So, trying to keep this on target of what actually can/cannot appear in WDW.... does anyone think there would be a problem with doing a M&G at DTD? The restrictions in the contract don't seem to apply since it would not be within a theme park or in a "Mini-theme parks, recreation centers, game centers or the like". And it seems like a good way for Disney to promote the Marvel brand and any movies that are out, plus attach it to retail and help that.
 
CJR

CJR

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I too am heading to bed, have a great night everyone! It was fun and interesting to debate the subject with you. I love challenging opinions and even if I'm on the wrong side, it's always a learning experience. Plus, it keeps me from doing more important things, which I find any distraction possible to keep from doing them, haha.

At the end of the day, we're all Disney fans and that's why we're here. We care about Disney and while it would be awesome if Marvel were a part of it, there are plenty of reasons why it's awesome the way it is now. So have a great night and I look forward to many more discussions and debates. :)
 
ctxak98

ctxak98

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lazyboy97o said:
How is it dumb? If you had the rights to use Spider-Man would you want somebody nearby to be able to use other Spider-Man characters?
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BUT! spiderman is technically part of the Avengers is what I am getting at! Most of the best marvel characters are all connected to the avengers! They each have there own story and there contribution to the Avengers. That's what I think it stupid!
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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doctornick said:
So, trying to keep this on target of what actually can/cannot appear in WDW.... does anyone think there would be a problem with doing a M&G at DTD? The restrictions in the contract don't seem to apply since it would not be within a theme park or in a "Mini-theme parks, recreation centers, game centers or the like". And it seems like a good way for Disney to promote the Marvel brand and any movies that are out, plus attach it to retail and help that.
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I think you'd have a very hard time convincing somebody that theme park-type characters being at a theme park resort's shopping district is not a clear attempt to skirt around the issue. And agin, to what end? At best, they get to keep the characters and likely increase confusion as to where the attractions are located. At worst Universal Orlando Resort goes after Walt Disney World and Disney loses, which means they're out the money spent on the development, the money spent on the lawyers and I don't think it'd be wrong for damages to be sought as well.

ctxak98 said:
BUT! spiderman is technically part of the Avengers is what I am getting at! Most of the best marvel characters are all connected to the avengers! They each have there own story and there contribution to the Avengers. That's what I think it stupid!
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I think all of the money made by The Avengers begs to differ.
 

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