Marvel coming to WDW?!?!

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
And as an aside... if the licensing costs for using the Twilight Zone branding is an issue, it would be fairly simple to simple get rid of it and make the ride just Tower of Terror. You re-record the script, change some signs and viola. Not really worse than when a sponsor leaves/changes.

Also, isn't there a Tower of Terror movie in development?
Licensing costs are fixed. A film being "in development" doesn't really mean much in Hollywood. For every film that gets made, there are at least three or four that died in development.
 

wdwfan4ver

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That said, it would still be problematic shutting down the ride to make the conversion. An even better idea is just building a a GotG ride from scratch. Doesn't DHS have an approved $2.8B budget to work with?
I thought the DHS budget is even bigger than 2.8 B. I remembered reading on this forum last year that the budget is over 3 billion dollars unless there is a cut in budget.
 

doctornick

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Licensing costs are fixed.

Not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying that if Disney removes all references and links to Twilight Zone (e.g. make the ride more like Tokyo's) that they'd still owe licensing fees? I mean, maybe they are required to pay for the licensing for a certain period, but I can't imagine the contract would call for Disney to constantly pay for a property if they are not using it.

Furthermore, WDW1974 already suggested that not having to pay the licensing fees is part of the motivation for this concept.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
I thought the DHS budget is even bigger than 2.8 B. I remembered reading on this forum last year that the budget is over 3 billion dollars unless there is a cut in budget.

The rumor was a $3.5B budget with about $350M each going to MK and Epcot and the balance ($2.8B) going to DHS. Of that $2.8B, a significant portion was going to be needed for infrastructure (especially new parking) and wouldn't specifically be going to attractions.
 

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
Not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying that if Disney removes all references and links to Twilight Zone (e.g. make the ride more like Tokyo's) that they'd still owe licensing fees? I mean, maybe they are required to pay for the licensing for a certain period, but I can't imagine the contract would call for Disney to constantly pay for a property if they are not using it.

Furthermore, WDW1974 already suggested that not having to pay the licensing fees is part of the motivation for this concept.
Fixed meaning that Disney pays a fixed amount of money, eg. annual payment, based on the contract they signed with CBS twenty plus years ago. They only pay the licensing fee on the ToTs with "The Twilight Zone" branding.

With regard to your second point, Disney is so penny wise and pound foolish that they would easily consider sacrificing a park's marquis attraction so they could save a million or two a year.
 

Phil12

Well-Known Member
The GoG theme will work fine for ToT. You've got to think outside of the box. Groot will save you from the fall. And Groot will make a super great icon for the park standing in front of the Chinese Theater. If old dead guy Walt were still here, we'd probably have Davy Crockett's ToT.
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Stitchwald

Member
The hitch right now is, naturally, WDW. They are interested in this, but they see it more as a temporary overlay to draw people into their moribund Studios park (the one they actively engage in deceptive advertising in because telling people that the real Star Wars stuff won't arrive before 2020-21 probably wouldn't be good for business).
So the reason WDW would get this overlay is because Star Wars Land will not be complete until 2-3 years after Disneyland's? WDW's ToT is the best ToT out there. It should not be touched. The park cannot afford to temporary close another ride due to its lack of attractions. I would love a GotG ride but make it a brand new and original E ticket.
 

wdwfan4ver

Well-Known Member
I really have to shake my head on this one.

Sunset Boulevard really didn't need any changes for rides and the timing for this terrible. While the third track of Toy Story Midway Mania will be running by 2017, it isn't going make up for the loss capacity when TOT goes down. DHS can't afford to have anything closed for a good amount of time after the upcoming April 2nd closings that includes LMA.
 

doctornick

Well-Known Member
I had high hopes for this thread. Those hopes were destroyed almost immediately.

Horrible.

Exactly. I got excited by the basic premise of the thread. I assumed it was going to be some sort of GotG attraction (or maybe Big Hero 6) since it was already known to be usable. The usual divergence into the contract with Uni seemed silly since Uni is never giving that up -- at most, there might be some clarification or slight modification of the contract better delineating who has the theme park rights to some minor characters.

And adding GotG to DHS just makes too much sense. The park could use any extra and it's a great IP to add to a park that is more action/adventure oriented. If they wanted to fast track something to be opened before Star Wars, all the better. But this idea sucks.

As an aside, I wouldn't really object to a temporary overlay of ToT with GotG in 2017 to promote the new movie. Though again, I think that RNR would be a better fit for that sort of idea.
 

Quinnmac000

Well-Known Member
I'm surprised Disney didn't theme RNRC to Star Wars as that would be even easier to fix and promote than TOT as Marvel haunted Galaxy ride.
 

TangledUpInKnots

Active Member
I'm usually one of those people that can role with change. I like seeing new things and I try to adjust to Disney's ideas even if I think they sound stupid at the time such as Avatar land (in my opinion, but I'm sure in the end it will pretty great). Maybe it's because the world is full of suck and I just try to enjoy a little magic in my life every 4 years when I go to WDW. But this? This makes me want to put down my magical kool-aid and pick up a REAL drink maybe several. This is the worst idea I've ever heard. I was legit excited to read this thread and how quickly that changed. I LOVE Tower of Terror. It has everything a ride should have and is my husband's absolute favorite. In case I didn't already question some of their decisions lately, this I CANNOT accept. This just goes to show you that nothing is safe...no rides are safe. I'm not sad, I'm just downright mad. :mad:
 

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