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I was about to 'like' this for the first part, but I can't due to the second.

While DCA's ToT is inferior (one of the very few times WDW came out with the best version ... although TDS's theming almost makes up for the tame ride profile) it is still a great attraction. It's like saying that you can destroy MK's PotC because it sucks compared to Anaheim (and, indeed, every version of the ride currently open ... and, yeah, soon to be open as well). If all you knew was DCA's Tower it is still a pretty damn spectacular ride experience. The fact it is the lesser version should in NO WAY make it OK to destroy.
Longtime lurker here who's been content to peruse countless threads from a distance without contributing, but this is one topic so dire that it drew me out of the woodwork. As a SoCal resident and frequenter of the Anaheim property, I can't express sufficient support for the quoted post. Yes, I've visited DHS and concur with the near-universal consensus that the original Tower is superior, but the Anaheim version is still one helluva strong attraction that guests (die-hard AP holders and out of town visitors alike) simply love. Even for the sizable percentage of guests who've never seen an episode of the Zone and wouldn't know the difference between Rod Serling and Rocket Rods, the iconic music, opening narration and overall TZ atmosphere make for an indelible theme park experience that only Disney at its best can produce. I'll admit to a fair amount of smug chortling in the past when some posters have threatened a total boycott of parks patronage in the face of yet another dismaying development, but if this proposed plan goes through you can count me among their number.
 

Mike S

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Longtime lurker here who's been content to peruse countless threads from a distance without contributing, but this is one topic so dire that it drew me out of the woodwork. As a SoCal resident and frequenter of the Anaheim property, I can't express sufficient support for the quoted post. Yes, I've visited DHS and concur with the near-universal consensus that the original Tower is superior, but the Anaheim version is still one helluva strong attraction that guests (die-hard AP holders and out of town visitors alike) simply love. Even for the sizable percentage of guests who've never seen an episode of the Zone and wouldn't know the difference between Rod Serling and Rocket Rods, the iconic music, opening narration and overall TZ atmosphere make for an indelible theme park experience that only Disney at its best can produce. I'll admit to a fair amount of smug chortling in the past when some posters have threatened a total boycott of parks patronage in the face of yet another dismaying development, but if this proposed plan goes through you can count me among their number.
It starts before you even get to the ride. The whole Sunset Blvd. leading to our Tower is an absolutely perfect builder of suspense and anticipation. The lack of it really hit me when I went to DCA last year. It was still fun, but.......
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Wow...............
 
I have no clue at all. Likely? Because this was decided and planned before the new Muppets show got off to a very slow start. FWIW, I really enjoyed the new show through December. Haven't caught up with the rest of the shows yet (may actually watch an episode or two tonight ).

But these decisions are made far out. I mentioned this about the new DCL ships before, which will likely be heavy on an important Iger IP from the last three years and next year or two. Even if no one cares come 2021 and 2023 when Meyer Werft delivers the ships.
@WDW1974 will the other attraction surrounding ToT get makeovers to go along with the GofG re image. I'm talking about RNRC, the new flex theatre and the BatB theatre?10 minutes till Better call Saul :)
 

WDW1974

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But yet their other decisions are "good business?" That's the problem with all the "Disney is a business," stuff. If they can come up with this, how can you possibly trust that the so-called "good business" actually are? The amount of "tone deafness" and lack of understanding about their own business something like this requires...it can't be the only wrong-headed move.
You know, Hope, I had a quote from a friend/source recently and had no idea where to run it and I think I'm just going to insert it here (no fanboi jokes, please) regarding management at P&R (in this case at DLR, but with a guy who was a WDW vet until 2012) and how it plays into decisions like adding GotG to ToT.

"The only person more clueless than Chapek on this one is Michael Colglazier, who always has to remind everyone that he went to Stanford and Harvard and is obviously the smartest person in the room. Except when it comes to theme parks and the business of being a good host to 28 million or more paying guests per year, he's barely educated and really has no idea how the place runs or operates."

Yes, the man who has been running DLR for FOUR YEARS is still clueless about his business. Can you imagine being allowed to be clueless in your job for that long without being shown the door?
 

WDW1974

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@WDW1974 will the other attraction surrounding ToT get makeovers to go along with the GofG re image. I'm talking about RNRC, the new flex theatre and the BatB theatre?10 minutes till Better call Saul :)
I can't say for certain, but it is on the table. ... As to Saul, I am already two episodes behind so no spoilers, please!
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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You know, Hope, I had a quote from a friend/source recently and had no idea where to run it and I think I'm just going to insert it here (no fanboi jokes, please) regarding management at P&R (in this case at DLR, but with a guy who was a WDW vet until 2012) and how it plays into decisions like adding GotG to ToT.

"The only person more clueless than Chapek on this one is Michael Colglazier, who always has to remind everyone that he went to Stanford and Harvard and is obviously the smartest person in the room. Except when it comes to theme parks and the business of being a good host to 28 million or more paying guests per year, he's barely educated and really has no idea how the place runs or operates."

Yes, the man who has been running DLR for FOUR YEARS is still clueless about his business. Can you imagine being allowed to be clueless in your job for that long without being shown the door?
Lordy, the stories I've heard about Colglazier. He can't get "promoted" out of DLR soon enough for the people there who actually know what they're doing.
 

GoofGoof

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It starts before you even get to the ride. The whole Sunset Blvd. leading to our Tower is an absolutely perfect builder of suspense and anticipation. The lack of it really hit me when I went to DCA last year.
That's part of what makes it a perfect ride. The Tower looms large as you turn down the road but you still have that walk ahead of you, gazing up at the tower as it gets closer and bigger. Still gives me butterflies even though I've ridden it so many times. On my last trip we had a pretty heavy thunderstorm and it was raining with lightning in the background for that walk. It was even more spooky.

At least the outside won't be changing much.
 

GoofGoof

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After going back over the mumble-jumble, I still am fascinated to know how GotG could be included in a drop-tower attraction. I just can't see it, although this comes from a reliable source.
It makes about as much sense as putting them into Cinderalla's Castle. Unless the sequel is going to include time travel back to classic Hollywood;)
 

Quinnmac000

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I think the reason for me this is an absolute nightmare is due to nostalgia. The year was 1998, I was 5 years old watching Disney Channel and I kept seeing and watching that tower of terror film with Kirsten Dunst. Around March, for my birthday,my parents took me to WDW for the first time. The moment I knew that was going to Disney, my mom showed me the brochures of all the parks. I freaked out because I saw the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror. Right then, I knew it had to be the first ride I did at Disney. We went to Magic Kingdom the first day and I absolutely sat out of doing everything because I refused to do anything first but ride ToT. The next day we went to MGM which was called at the time and rode it. I was absolutely terrified and I loved it.

I guess this going away or even get a overlay kinda is like saying goodbye to an old friend.
 

WDW1974

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Cooler heads have prevailed...I was posting from frustration.

I'm still holding my breath that "cooler heads" will also prevail with Disney
I have learned that posting while angry ...well, no, I have not learned anything about that sadly!:D:devilish::D:cool:

I did just get an update from one source on this and it may give you some hope. Don't have time to go into complete detail, but in Anaheim it is 90% a done deal. It is already being slated onto rehab/ops calendars. WDW is about 50/50. Believe it or not, but Georgie K is showing some back bone here (so folks might want to pepper HIS OFFICE with phone calls expressing this view). Now, he isn't doing this because he respects fans, the park or the attraction. He's doing it because while DCA will shut the entire ride down on what likely will be Jan. 1st, he knows what a nightmare that could be at WDW. He has proposed keeping this open partially while working on one shaft at a time (oh gawd, do you know how hard it is for me to not make jokes here?!?!?:hungry::devilish::eek::D). That seems to be a compromise he is willing to do. My take is he can be influenced, so go to it if you care. Even Anaheim is only ALMOST a done deal, but it appears that only something major (SDL opens and bleeds from the start, terrorist attack domestically kills travel, natural disaster etc) is going to stop this in Anaheim.

So ... some hope in FL ... almost none in CA ... and people out on the Twitter taking shots at me when, quite bluntly, I am almost always right ... like when I said that UNI was going to add a Potter component to its Studios park and connect them via a train ... all the wand wavers forget that I was the first voice on that one and was laughed off loudly (although since then a few individuals have said they suggested this online) and attacked and if they only knew who my source was on that one.

Anyway, that's it ... I am sure tomorrow will bring more cutbacks, price increases and the like ... just remember: you aren't a real Disney fan if you don't see the value in an $11 Yoda cupcake or collect glassware from Trader Sam's.
 
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Wikkler

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Tower of Terror is perfection. It is the pinnacle of themed entertainment. The fact that this is even a rumor with any legs at all in an absolute absurdity. ToT is the standard to which Disney should hold itself, yet we keep getting derivative shi-----
It seems literally everyone wants to cuss about this, including me. Don't we all just wish Steve lifted the filter just for this thread?