Man tries to bring gun into Disney World, deputies say (WFTV)

FigmentsFangirl

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Might be relevant but I too had a time when I was asked to show my pocket knife, once I showed the size of the blade to the guard I was told "please keep it down in your pocket and welcome to Epcot!" Since then I kept that knife in the room and always had my much smaller one on me.
 

Victor Kelly

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the good thing is, that security guard was kind right ? You guys worked it out pretty quickly the way I'm reading it. you claimed it later that evening or day when you left that park right ? So its all good

Professional, polite, kind. Claimed it when we were leaving to hop parks. The clip was showing outside the pocket it was clipped into. A positive experience.
 

TheGuyThatMakesSwords

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Must mention - I always (in my home town), carry a good assisted opening SOG pocket knife. It's the very first thing I LEAVE AT HOME when the wife and I go to WDW :). Just me - just what I do. I'm probably more concerned at the prospect of being run down by one of the idiot drivers that gets lost & drives into the MK Bus Loop, DAILY :). I may be a bit old and foolish, but if the day ever comes that I must consider any form of lethal force to defend myself, or wife, at WDW? We would probably just stop going there. Could that day come? Well, yes - but sooner or later, I would also need to go to a Market to buy food :(.

I personally applaud Disney - they are TRYING to do the best they can, with a current Government Administration that really is not helping them all that much. The LAST thing they want to do is to drive people away - that impacts profit. Yet, they are TRYING to do the best they can to keep people SAFE - and it's costing them MONEY. Just a personal opinion - no "for profit" company incurs an expense without a good reason. They really don't DO stuff like this just to make their customers angry.

We appear to have "inconveniences". I wonder - is anyone old enough to recall the "inconveniences" of the LAST real War? I'm actually too YOUNG, at 63 - but I remember what my parents told me.
 

Blairnicol

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Victor, I post rarely - but must echo the points you make in your post. I also have a CCW. I also would NEVER consider bringing a firearm to any WDW location - including Disney Springs.

Just to me - there is a HUGE difference between where I LIVE (another state, with reciprocity), and WDW, in terms of a perceived need for serious defense. Could I be wrong? Of course I could... but we balance common sense, and the serious responsibility of BEING licensed, every day.

One thing keeps coming up in my mind regarding this situation: Did this person believe he was in a position to be attacked, with life threatening force at a Disney Park? A child, spilling a Dole Whip on you, just doesn't cut it....TERRORISTS! Yeah, right. Just me, but I don't think a pocket .380 is going to do much for me, or my family, if some animal with a bomb vest shows up. Here, I MUST believe WDW Security is on high alert, and doing their job.

Finally.... the most serious issue. Here (potentially), we have an armed person at WDW. Victor, I would worry about a trained POLICE OFFICER discharging a firearm ANYWHERE within WDW. Let's see.... WDW.... CHILDREN. CROWDS. STRAY BULLET. Just me - I would DIE before I fired a gun under these conditions :(. Really - I keep wondering - WHAT WAS THIS MAN THINKING? Or did he THINK at all? What exactly was he going to DO if he encountered a bad situation? And how did he think that waving a pistol around within a WDW Park was going to turn out for him?

Having a CCW SHOULD put the licensed holder in the same mindset as that of a Police Officer, with regard to public safety. In NO Way is a CCW holder any kind of "Junior Cop" - rather, they MUST forgo the illusion of "Junior Law Enforcement", and focus HEAVILY on a version of the creed that MDs abide by - "DO NO HARM". DIE before an innocent is in harms way, and NEVER place an innocent in a potentially deadly situation. Save an innocent? Of course - but avoid the "Batman" complex, and let the Police BE the Police. Reach for the cell phone before you reach for a deadly weapon.

This particular man was WAY off base. A good time to let our legal system deal with a rogue.
This is very well written & thought out. Thank you.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Must mention - I always (in my home town), carry a good assisted opening SOG pocket knife. It's the very first thing I LEAVE AT HOME when the wife and I go to WDW :). Just me - just what I do. I'm probably more concerned at the prospect of being run down by one of the idiot drivers that gets lost & drives into the MK Bus Loop, DAILY :). I may be a bit old and foolish, but if the day ever comes that I must consider any form of lethal force to defend myself, or wife, at WDW? We would probably just stop going there. Could that day come? Well, yes - but sooner or later, I would also need to go to a Market to buy food :(.

I personally applaud Disney - they are TRYING to do the best they can, with a current Government Administration that really is not helping them all that much. The LAST thing they want to do is to drive people away - that impacts profit. Yet, they are TRYING to do the best they can to keep people SAFE - and it's costing them MONEY. Just a personal opinion - no "for profit" company incurs an expense without a good reason. They really don't DO stuff like this just to make their customers angry.

We appear to have "inconveniences". I wonder - is anyone old enough to recall the "inconveniences" of the LAST real War? I'm actually too YOUNG, at 63 - but I remember what my parents told me.

Hiring the bouncer goons from CSC is not doing the best they can. If you want PROFESSIONALS you hire Wackenhut. The CSC goons are likely to hurt someone when they feel they are being 'Dissed
 

PhotoDave219

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Original Poster
Hiring the bouncer goons from CSC is not doing the best they can. If you want PROFESSIONALS you hire Wackenhut. The CSC goons are likely to hurt someone when they feel they are being 'Dissed

As much as I despise CSC, I'll give the guys at DHS props. They were doing their best to be insanely polite
 

French Quarter

Well-Known Member
Well that's odd. Hes a civil and criminal defense lawyer from a Google search. He would obviously know the ramifications of bringing a firearm into MK. I wish the story was more descriptive and said where he was arrested at. If the officer drew his own weapon then it couldn't of been inside MK because it's way too busy and an off target shot could do a lot of damage. Wonder what guys reasoning was to bring a gun, wonder if it was just for self defense. I carry a firearm daily but no way would I ever try to get it into a park, I don't even bring it to DTD.

Maybe he didn't really think much about it until it was discovered?
 

French Quarter

Well-Known Member
People taking a reactionary "I won't let the media think for me!" while failing to think it through is a bigger problem. Be as cynical as you want, question as much as you like, but use logic when you do so.

Could Disney have staged this? Yes they could. What advantage would they get? To show how good their security is perhaps? Of course they might also scare people away by making them think they are a target for mass shooters... Not really a smart play is it? And that's assuming they were able to do this and not get caught out. Which is again, unlikely.

On the other hand, we know these sorts of things happen all over the US (just pick up a newspaper any day of the week) and it's hardly the first time that someone has attempted to smuggle a gun into the Magic Kingdom.

So you tell me, which is the more likely scenario here?

I'm with you. It would be ridiculous for Disney to instill fear of any kind into its guests. That could only have a negative effect on attendance and image.
 

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