Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
Yup.
If I can't bring in a damn bottle of Snapple you can leave your weapons at home.
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Man tries to bring gun into Disney World, deputies say (WFTV)
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If I can't bring in a damn bottle of Snapple you can leave your weapons at home.
It's legal but because it's private property, Disney can only ask people to leave.
No idea why people think it's necessary....
TeriofTerror
Well-Known Member
I'm quite sure they do that rather a lot. I've never seen them break any news until after this site had discussed it quite thoroughly.
Additionally, their spelling and grammar tend to be atrocious.
bhg469
Well-Known Member
That is pretty much the deal everywhere. I feel like Texas has to be the same. Not illegal but also against the wishes of the parks. People need to respect the rules of the property owner and be prepared to be trespassed if they do not comply. From what I've heard, Disney seems really fair with their policy. They don't make a big deal about it and people don't press the issue.
MonorailCoral
Active Member
Long-time lurker, first-time poster, figured I'd chime in.
With small exceptions such as bar areas among the parks where the dispensing of alcohol for consumption is the primary purpose, amusement/theme parks in general are not one of the prohibited areas when holding a valid carry permit according to the applicable Florida statutes. See section (12)(a) here. And Florida law maintains a "preemption" statute over any and all attempts to regulate firearms at a local level, found here, which would prevent Reedy Creek from ever attempting to regulate firearms on their own.
Exactly. And if you refuse to leave, you can be charged with Armed Trespassing, statute 810.09(1)(c).
The same reasons why those with a valid concealed weapon permit choose to carry everywhere else they are legally allowed to do so:
1) Because it only takes one person with nefarious intentions to make a really bad day for everyone else,
2) the Disney Bubble is no deterrent (if anything, and God forbid, it could actually be a "magnet" for unspeakable acts...Which, thank God, hasn't happened yet), and
3) those that legally carry with valid permits choose to at least have a fighting chance...or put up a formidable resistance...to save themselves and their families (any maybe you and your family too).
What's the difference if you're standing in line for "It's A Small World" next to someone legally carrying concealed, or standing in line at the mall waiting to check out next to someone legally carrying concealed? Either way, most people are probably none the wiser.
The people victimized in the recent mass-shootings within ordinance-mandated "gun-free zones" probably felt "safe" too.
With small exceptions such as bar areas among the parks where the dispensing of alcohol for consumption is the primary purpose, amusement/theme parks in general are not one of the prohibited areas when holding a valid carry permit according to the applicable Florida statutes. See section (12)(a) here. And Florida law maintains a "preemption" statute over any and all attempts to regulate firearms at a local level, found here, which would prevent Reedy Creek from ever attempting to regulate firearms on their own.
Exactly. And if you refuse to leave, you can be charged with Armed Trespassing, statute 810.09(1)(c).
The same reasons why those with a valid concealed weapon permit choose to carry everywhere else they are legally allowed to do so:
1) Because it only takes one person with nefarious intentions to make a really bad day for everyone else,
2) the Disney Bubble is no deterrent (if anything, and God forbid, it could actually be a "magnet" for unspeakable acts...Which, thank God, hasn't happened yet), and
3) those that legally carry with valid permits choose to at least have a fighting chance...or put up a formidable resistance...to save themselves and their families (any maybe you and your family too).
What's the difference if you're standing in line for "It's A Small World" next to someone legally carrying concealed, or standing in line at the mall waiting to check out next to someone legally carrying concealed? Either way, most people are probably none the wiser.
The people victimized in the recent mass-shootings within ordinance-mandated "gun-free zones" probably felt "safe" too.
Jahona
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Trying not to get to off topic but just fyi, it's not the same in Texas. There are places and locations that are singled out in the legislation for concealed/open carry that are illegal to carry a gun. Private property must post 30.06 and 30.07 signs that must follow strict guidelines in order to not have someone not carry on their property.
dstrawn9889
Well-Known Member
if you have a weapon and have a carry permit, all they can do is turn you around so that you can secure it in your property(car). you would not be arrested if you are legally carrying the firearm...
Mouse Trap
Well-Known Member
It is a scary thought. But do you know how many of these "stories" never hit the media?
Many years ago a friend of mine who worked at _________ theme park found guns on two seperate occasions in lockers during the nightly sweep. It's not a good idea to bring a weapon into a theme park and it certainly isn't a good idea to leave it behind.
fillerup
Well-Known Member
Correct.
Disney has a rule against weapons (which I agree with) but if it's not publicly posted, someone attempting to enter with a weapon isn't violating any laws.
bhg469
Well-Known Member
And I think Disney is doing the right thing by not making a big deal about it. The moment you start parading people out, you will have more yahoo's trying to demonstrate.
R W B
Well-Known Member
Right and I fully understand that. I just don't see a need to bring it to the park itself. I travel with my firearm all the time but it stays in the in-room safe while I'm at wdw. If I take Disney transport any where on property im not taken my firearm with me.
flynnibus
Premium Member
The first rule of Ignore list.. is you do not talk about the ignore list!
Matt_Black
Well-Known Member
Ignore list? What's this about an ignore list? We should talk about the ignore list and specifically the rule of the ignore list you just cited!
And we thank you for your discretion with your firearm.
matt9112
Well-Known Member
because hollow points are scary and make good news? in Florida a permit is so easy why did he not have one?
Apparently it was expired....
Victor Kelly
Well-Known Member
I have a permit, I do not carry going into any park WDW or otherwise. I know about some of the security of WDW, which makes me feel safe. Safe enough to not feel the need to carry into a theme park. Outside of the parks, specifically off property is another story for another time, with a lot of sound thought put behind it.
TheGuyThatMakesSwords
Well-Known Member
Victor, I post rarely - but must echo the points you make in your post. I also have a CCW. I also would NEVER consider bringing a firearm to any WDW location - including Disney Springs.
Just to me - there is a HUGE difference between where I LIVE (another state, with reciprocity), and WDW, in terms of a perceived need for serious defense. Could I be wrong? Of course I could... but we balance common sense, and the serious responsibility of BEING licensed, every day.
One thing keeps coming up in my mind regarding this situation: Did this person believe he was in a position to be attacked, with life threatening force at a Disney Park? A child, spilling a Dole Whip on you, just doesn't cut it....TERRORISTS! Yeah, right. Just me, but I don't think a pocket .380 is going to do much for me, or my family, if some animal with a bomb vest shows up. Here, I MUST believe WDW Security is on high alert, and doing their job.
Finally.... the most serious issue. Here (potentially), we have an armed person at WDW. Victor, I would worry about a trained POLICE OFFICER discharging a firearm ANYWHERE within WDW. Let's see.... WDW.... CHILDREN. CROWDS. STRAY BULLET. Just me - I would DIE before I fired a gun under these conditions
. Really - I keep wondering - WHAT WAS THIS MAN THINKING? Or did he THINK at all? What exactly was he going to DO if he encountered a bad situation? And how did he think that waving a pistol around within a WDW Park was going to turn out for him?Having a CCW SHOULD put the licensed holder in the same mindset as that of a Police Officer, with regard to public safety. In NO Way is a CCW holder any kind of "Junior Cop" - rather, they MUST forgo the illusion of "Junior Law Enforcement", and focus HEAVILY on a version of the creed that MDs abide by - "DO NO HARM". DIE before an innocent is in harms way, and NEVER place an innocent in a potentially deadly situation. Save an innocent? Of course - but avoid the "Batman" complex, and let the Police BE the Police. Reach for the cell phone before you reach for a deadly weapon.
This particular man was WAY off base. A good time to let our legal system deal with a rogue.