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Man Arrested after trying to bring gun into Epcot
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RapunzelsWeave
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It happened at MK last December when I was there. The very next week they put up the metal detectors.
SosoDude
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I somewhat agree, but the person with the permit is responsible to know where he or she is allowed to carry with the permit.
In the state I live in we have concealed permits that allow persons to carry concealed in some public areas. then we have an "Enhanced Carry" permit that requires hours of classes and qualification at a gun range so that person can carry in almost any public area. Banks, schools, even businesses that have " no guns allowed " signs. Both permits require the person to understand where they can and can not carry.
s8film40
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This is true, however people with a permit are legally allowed to carry a concealed gun into WDW. This is simply a Disney rule, carrying a gun into WDW is no different than carrying a selfie stick in. No one could possibly know what every single business allows and doesn't allow. There are likely people in the park every day carrying guns who don't even know it's not allowed.
rob0519
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Let's clarify shoot to stop. Officers are trained to "shoot to stop," by aiming for the center mass of a person's chest because it is the target they are most certain to hit and is most likely to take the suspect down. Fortunately or unfortunately depending on your point of view, it is also most likely to kill the suspect.
lazyboy97o
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Even with 100% screening the odds are plenty good that the screening can be circumvented.
TheGuyThatMakesSwords
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Worth noting - there is a second reason. Center of mass is the largest target... hence, an officer is less likely to MISS, and send a 9mm round right into an innocent close to the line of fire.
Just personal advice - if you SEE an Officer draw his gun? GET AWAY. GIVE HIM/HER LOTS OF ROOM. Don't be the backstop for a stray round.
s8film40
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This is true, this is why I suggested it should be all or nothing. At least if everyone's going through a metal detector we know that no one is bringing in a metal weapon outside of somehow circumventing the security checkpoint. This wouldn't necessarily stop someone planning some sort of pre-planned attack. It would however stop the in the moment type incidents that could occur, for example someone gets into an argument things get escalated and one person pulls out the weapon that no one told them wasn't allowed. As it stands now the security is a joke and just waste of everyone's time.
DisneyDebRob
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Thank you Mom.
EOD K9
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Yes, shoot to stop or neutralize the threat. If an officer shoots, misses the subject (and lets say the round strikes a mound of dirt) and the suspect decides to comply, then the officer should stop and cuff the suspect. I have spent 20 years in the business....I know a little bit about firearms training, tactics, and gun laws.
As others have said, center mass i.e the chest, is the largest and best area to aim for. The whole idea of winging someone or trying to shoot a gun out of someone's hand is best left for Hollywood's writers.
Also, if everyone goes through security, while not perfect, it is better than complete randomness. That alone can possibly make someone think twice. We have had this discussion numerous times on these forums though.
As others have said, center mass i.e the chest, is the largest and best area to aim for. The whole idea of winging someone or trying to shoot a gun out of someone's hand is best left for Hollywood's writers.
Also, if everyone goes through security, while not perfect, it is better than complete randomness. That alone can possibly make someone think twice. We have had this discussion numerous times on these forums though.
Thats because lightsabers are a more elegant weapon for a civilised age
Jon81uk
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Generally metal dectectors mean they are looking for weapons. Guns are weapons.
Here in the U.K. the assumption is that the metal dectector is looking for knives (hence they are often known as knife arches). In the USA I would assume they are looking for knives and guns. As well of course for anything else that could cause physical bodily harm.
Bag checks alone I would only assume they are looking for contraband (glass bottles etc) and a smaller check for weapons, but if I see a metal dectector I would always assume they are looking for weapons.
If you are carrying some form of weapon for any reason (chef with their knives or gun owner with CC permit) then you should have the common sense to declare it as you approach the metal detector. I would hope that all security staff then assume any weapon found that hasn't been declared is dealt with in the appropriate way. There is no reason for ANY member of the public to be carrying a weapon in most public situations, theme park, mall, etc.
ABQ
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You were saying?
Jess G
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literally laughed out loud at this!
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