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Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

flynnibus

Premium Member
Unfortunately the idea of mailing yourself stuff doesn't actually work as Copyright protection. It's a myth.

Anyways with all these blunders maybe it will make him smarten up for his next hustle in 5 years.

Copyright protection is automatic anyways for creators. You own it by default. Registration is voluntary and gives extra benefits (-and would be needed for litigation). But he doesn't need to register anything for dcma requests etc

Trademarks are a different story...
 

homerdance

Well-Known Member
I thin your confusing the right to search with being searched as a condition of entry. If they walk up to you at Disney springs, they cannot search you. If they do, it's battery.

The signs to search at your former employer were a condition of your employment. You can refuse, but you'll probably be fired.

Still has nothing to do with 4th...
The thing is, the entire Disney property is private property. If you refuse a search, they can escort you off the premises. You don't have a right to be there. They can only detain you against your will with probable cause, they don't need any reason to search you (except they can't search you because of a protected status)
 

My95cobras

Well-Known Member
The thing is, the entire Disney property is private property. If you refuse a search, they can escort you off the premises. You don't have a right to be there. They can only detain you against your will with probable cause, they don't need any reason to search you (except they can't search you because of a protected status)

I think that’s exactly what I said... you’re arguing with the wrong person, because we are in agreement.
 

seascape

Well-Known Member
I'm not condoning his crime, but even if he was attached to the theft of the Buzzy AA he's done less damage to Epcot than the Iger administration.
I completely disagree with you. Wait until you see the rebuilt Epcot before starting Iger has damaged it. I believe that before Universal ipens their real 3rd gate Disney will have 75% or more of the Orlando themepark audience. Iger may have started late but by 2022 Disney will be crushing it.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
I completely disagree with you. Wait until you see the rebuilt Epcot before starting Iger has damaged it. I believe that before Universal ipens their real 3rd gate Disney will have 75% or more of the Orlando themepark audience. Iger may have started late but by 2022 Disney will be crushing it.
2018 Numbers
  • Disney 69.92%
  • Universal 24.57%
  • Sea World 6.33%
2009 Numbers (Pre-Potter)
  • Disney 74.86%
  • Universal 16.00%
  • Sea World 9.14%
2006 Numbers (when Iger took over)
  • Disney 72.58%
  • Universal 18.18%
  • Sea World 9.24%
This is using the 7 actual parks (no water parks) and using TEA's numbers.

Epcot's attendance in 1997 was 11,800,000 and didn't recover from DAK's opening / September 11th until 2017 when it's attendance was 12,200,000.

Today's Disney company is largely about style over substance and the concept of charm is seemingly lost on this administration, as is cohesive theming. The likeliest scenario I see is that Epcot will have the worst attraction lineup in WDW by 2022.

Don't get me wrong, I think there may be something to the new Future World framework they setup with World Celebration, Nature and Discovery. There is a path whereby 2023-2024 the park could be well positioned for the future but for me it would need the following:
  • Spaceship Earth to be free of movie IPs and keep the spirit of the original attraction.
  • The Nemo ride rethemed to remove the Nemo IP
  • Moana attraction to be Moana in name and signage only
  • Living with the Land to receive updates
  • Imagination to get the $200-300 million budget it deserves and no IP
  • Guardians Cosmic Rewind to have classic Epcot call backs and be some sort of grounded in real world time/space theme
  • Gran Fiesta Tour to have Caballeros removed and a smaller scale Coco addition
  • Brazil, ideally with a ride
  • Mary Poppins ride to be a tour over the UK, Peter Pan style. Alternatively, I'd accept a carousel that's Mary Poppins themed in name only
  • HarmonioUS to not be an IP fest.
 
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Smiley/OCD

Well-Known Member
1. They do not have the right to search. You can absolutely refuse for them to search you. You will not be allowed in the parks, but under no circumstances can they just stop and search you without your consent.

2. 4th amendment is a moot point. What does searching people have to do with stopping a burglary or theft at a backstage building?
I worked in retail management for over 30 years...If an employee saw merchandise being concealed, or if the security alarm went off at the exit, I had EVERY right to ask the person to empty their pockets. I couldn't search them myself, but if they refused, I could detain them until police arrived. I won't speak for other states, but in NJ, once you conceal merchandise, even while you're still in the store, it's considered shoplifting.
 

GhostlyGoofy

Well-Known Member
Just listened to short podcast interview with BDD before the HM arrest.

Bdd claimed the reason he had pics of Buzzys Clothes was because a women sent them to him trying to sell, but her price was insane

Of course, the affidavit stated the bag in the cranium command clothes pics was recovered at his house with a search warrant.

So take it with a grain of salt the size of Everest.

Bdd also floats the conspiracy someone in this thread a while back brought up, that Buzzy was moved as an excuse to arrest BDD. Which is a bonkers plan.
 

ThemedScream

Active Member
I worked in retail management for over 30 years...If an employee saw merchandise being concealed, or if the security alarm went off at the exit, I had EVERY right to ask the person to empty their pockets. I couldn't search them myself, but if they refused, I could detain them until police arrived. I won't speak for other states, but in NJ, once you conceal merchandise, even while you're still in the store, it's considered shoplifting.

Here in CA I'm able to search their person for any potential weapons if I suspect they might have something they could use to harm me while they are detained, but I can't go searching for stolen goods they may have on them (in their pockets, for example.) I can, however, search any handbags, backpacks, etc that they might have with them in an attempt to recover any items.
 

gerarar

Premium Member
I love this...he's sitting there ALONE for several minutes, looking at his phone...you'd think he would take the opportunity to delete the incriminating photos...the height of arrogance...as Bill Murray said in "Stripes", STUUUUUUPPPID!!
To make it worse he was tweeting that he was at the police for questioning during that exact moment....

He could've tried to delete the photos or something ya know (still illegal), but still, stupidity seems to win here!!
 

GhostlyGoofy

Well-Known Member
Was this from the blog that said they conducted the interview with BDD months ago but gave it to police and didn’t post the audio until this week? That was so strange.

Yeah that was the one.

Some things that make this lady seller hard to believe.

The bag being found at his house.

People saying that BDD had been seen wearing Buzzy's Hat.

If you're being accused of grand theft and shown evidence linking the property to your phone and car... why wouldn't you turn in the seller?

He claims he didnt want to do the police any favors giving them info... but the whole reason he was brought in was because he was a suspect and this lead to the discovery of HM props.
 

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