Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

[flynnibus]

Also don’t carry evidence against yourself into a sheriff office.

Well that's what the lawyer's job is.. helps catch all those things

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

I am curious if OCSO recovered any other phones. Spikes claims the phone in the video is only 2 months old. Who knows if he's being honest.

I just wonder if he'll see another arrest before his trial. If theres a lot more evidence of stolen goods.

Also if the interior of the car in the photos of Buzz's Clothes matches the interior of the car he's driving or registered to, that's pretty damning.

 

[flynnibus]

Also if the interior of the car in the photos of Buzz's Clothes matches the interior of the car he's driving or registered to, that's pretty damning.

But like Spikes said... if you see a photo of an inside of a BMW... what makes that my BMW? Need something more unique. The car photos they released are pretty bland in terms of identifying the car.

 

[Ismael Flores]

I wonder if he had time to delete his hard drive and whatever else he has on the cloud.

 

[brb1006]

Here's the video of BackDoorDisney's questioning.

 

[RaveOnEd]

But like Spikes said... if you see a photo of an inside of a BMW... what makes that my BMW? Need something more unique. The car photos they released are pretty bland in terms of identifying the car.

According to the warrant, the photos were received via text to someone from Spikes, and the bag itself was found in Spikes' home.

 

[Ismael Flores]

Nice... still will be interesting to see how the phone plays out in court... if there was a risk of illegal search there or not. Which will depend a lot on what details they had prior. Doesn't sound like they had a warrant for it prior.. but instead were counting on it being evidence based on probably cause. Because without that phone... seems like everything else falls apart.

i thought that in the video they say that they got a warrant for the phone

 

[Notes from Neverland]

He goes from feeling untouchable to asking for his mom really quickly.

 

[flynnibus]

i thought that in the video they say that they go a warrant for the phone

It doesn't seem like they had one at the time but rather seized it under the premise of preventing him from tampering with evidence. The wording and sequence of events has been a bit vague I think. The police could have had the warrant and been holding back trying to get him to incriminate himself first... not sure honestly.

ETA: The arrest warrant documents they got a search warrant for the phone after the interview.

 

[RaveOnEd]

He goes from feeling untouchable to asking for his mom really quickly.

I love that exchange in the video! "You're an adult aren't you? Then you don't need to call your mom."

 

[flynnibus]

According to the warrant, the photos were received via text to someone from Spikes, and the bag itself was found in Spikes' home.

Thanks, yes in hindsight that text makes alot more sense.

"On December 18, 2018, I was made aware that another Disney employee had photographs sent to him from Spikes showing the stolen Buzzy animatronic clothing in his vehicle. Also seen in the photographs was a tan backpack that was later learned to be used to conceal the stolen clothing in both the Buzzy clothing case and this case. Controlled text messages were sent where Spikes initially denied any part in the theft but knew the stolen Buzzy clothes were sold for $8,000."

If that employee ratted Spikes out and gave them the photos and proof of the texts.. then they have pretty strong cause to get the search warrants (which they did after the interview) and justify the seizure to prevent Spikes from tampering. It makes the interview video and warrant text alot more clear with all those bits together.

 

[RaveOnEd]

Thanks, yes in hindsight that text makes alot more sense.

"On December 18, 2018, I was made aware that another Disney employee had photographs sent to him from Spikes showing the stolen Buzzy animatronic clothing in his vehicle. Also seen in the photographs was a tan backpack that was later learned to be used to conceal the stolen clothing in both the Buzzy clothing case and this case. Controlled text messages were sent where Spikes initially denied any part in the theft but knew the stolen Buzzy clothes were sold for $8,000."

If that employee ratted Spikes out and gave them the photos and proof of the texts.. then they have pretty strong cause to get the search warrants (which they did after the interview) and justify the seizure to prevent Spikes from tampering. It makes the interview video and warrant text alot more clear with all those bits together.

That he made a sudden grab for the phone (which became a focal point when he started to reach for it earlier in the questioning, as well as it being mentioned that he took photos and sent them out, posted on social media, etc.) makes it probable cause to get a warrant for the phone.

That he made a sudden jump in that room for anything was approaching the height of stupidity. That he did everything else, while sending geotagged photos of it, puts him at Everest heights.

 

[Ismael Flores]

WESH Orlando also showed a part of the video where the guy is having "breathing" problems after being wrestled to the ground by the detectives. Paramedics had to be called.

This guy is a real con with an attitude, i wonder how well he knew best way to get out of there and contact someone was to get sent to a hospital. Wonder if that is why he wanted to call his mom, code for i need to destroy evidence

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

But like Spikes said... if you see a photo of an inside of a BMW... what makes that my BMW? Need something more unique. The car photos they released are pretty bland in terms of identifying the car.

I don't know. Most hourly CMs are scraping by and probably not driving BMWs purchased by their rich parents. So if the photos of Buzzy's jacket match Spike's car... that's just one heck of a coincidence.

I understand that would be hard to bring up in a trial. That's why I am curious about other phones, that may feature past stolen items.

 

[Ismael Flores]

Am i bad in hoping they find this guy guilty for not only the present crime but also for the theft in Epcot and that he has to pay for it in jail? maybe when he walsk out he will have a different attitude

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Am i bad in hoping they find this guy guilty for not only the present crime but also for the theft in Epcot and that he has to pay for it in jail? maybe when he walsk out he will have a different attitude

He's obviously never had to deal with actual consequences before. He broke the law...he should be punished for it. Mom and dad need to stop fixing all his crap or he'll never change. (He may not anyway, but 24 is pretty young, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.)

 

[flynnibus]

I don't know. Most hourly CMs are scraping by and probably not driving BMWs purchased by their rich parents. So if the photos of Buzzy's jacket match Spike's car... that's just one heck of a coincidence.

Yeah, but you can't use lines like that to justify a search. 'matching the description' means they are compatible, but is a far stretch from 'likely the same'. Which is why the police could stop you for matching a description to investigate, but can't search you based on that alone.

We don't have those photos shown (to my knowledge) so hard to analyze what they showed there... but Spike's line of defense there isn't 'bad' per say.. The cops are trying to fish there trying to get him to spill details or admit to stuff.

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

He's obviously never had to deal with actual consequences before. He broke the law...he should be punished for it. Mom and dad need to stop fixing all his crap or he'll never change. (He may not anyway, but 24 is pretty young, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.)

For just the Haunted Mansion it's more likely he's looking at a Hefty fine and Probation.

Who's to say what happens if he gets anymore charges brought against him for other thefts of Disney Props.

And then of course there's Buzzy. If he did take him, Buzzy is programmed to perform "Robot Revenge".

 

[Dragonman]

Isn’t there pictures of Buzzy himself out there too sans clothing? Wouldn’t that help the investigation? I think @DreamfinderGuy mentioned he saw them or Buzzy himself a while back.

 

[Ismael Flores]

For just the Haunted Mansion it's more likely he's looking at a Hefty fine and Probation.

Who's to say what happens if he gets anymore charges brought against him for other thefts of Disney Props.

And then of course there's Buzzy. If he did take him, Buzzy is programmed to perform "Robot Revenge".

I hope they find Buzzy, only real hope is that he kept records somewhere of his sell or that they find a storage somewhere. Of course the buyer can step out and turn it in like some of his other clients have been doing