glawio
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Hehehe, the Buzzy animatronic is special to me but hatbox ghost is charming and interesting to look at as well. Thank you for sharing, I haven't seen these schematics before!
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Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested
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Hehehe, the Buzzy animatronic is special to me but hatbox ghost is charming and interesting to look at as well. Thank you for sharing, I haven't seen these schematics before!
Tom Morrow
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justintheharris
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So like... can somebody who's well versed in law explain why Spikes plead not guilty? I can only attribute it to a massive display of arrogance and stupidity. Is there another strategy afoot here?
ImperfectPixie
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Great question...I always assumed it was sort of a default "I really want to get out of this" plea.
Most defendants plead Not Guilty because it is up to the state to prove your guilt. You do not have to prove your innocence.
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justintheharris
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Well yes but I was more thinking that he probably has almost no chance of getting out of this and doesn't a guilty plea usually come with a lighter sentencing?
Goofyernmost
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No, he could luck into a sympathetic judge or jury, if it goes that far. But, one makes it difficult and hope for an inability to prove "beyond a shadow of a doubt". It's not going to really affect the outcome as far as the punishment is concerned, but, one goes for whatever shot is possible. However, asking a question like that kind of ignores the semblance of innocent until proven guilty since so many have already determined his guilt. He may well be guilty, but, they have to prove it. Standard procedure.
That only works if he as been offered a plea agreement stating a lighter sentence if he gives up his right to a jury trial. Without an offered agreement there will not be any automatic leniency. He has nothing to lose by pleading not guilty if he hasn't been offered an opportunity to benefit from pleading guilty.
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GhostlyGoofy
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This sites shows what proof the state will need
www.husseinandwebber.com
If the charges are just for the HM Props there probably wont even be jail time, just some hefty fines, probation.
However if more charges get added for other props sold and buzzy really is worth 120k...
Grand Theft- Florida | Definition, Penalties, Defenses
In Florida, Grand Theft is the unlawful taking of property valued at $750 or more. Grand theft is a felony offense, with severe penalties, including prison.
www.husseinandwebber.com
If the charges are just for the HM Props there probably wont even be jail time, just some hefty fines, probation.
However if more charges get added for other props sold and buzzy really is worth 120k...
glawio
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For some reason, deep in my heart of hearts, I don't think BDD took Buzzy. Just an gut thing I guess. I really feel it was somebody else. I think BDD probably KNOWS the person/people who were involved, but I just cannot imagine this dude taking an entire animatronic like that and not having selfies with it on his phone/leaving a huge trail of evidence. 
nol_dur
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There's no better way to say it
nol_dur
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Yeah, on the latest podcast he was saying he was about to put a whole segment in his Alice in Wonderland video that would disprove the myth that it was built on top of Mr Toad's
nol_dur
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I feel the same wayFor some reason, deep in my heart of hearts, I don't think BDD took Buzzy. Just an gut thing I guess. I really feel it was somebody else. I think BDD probably KNOWS the person/people who were involved, but I just cannot imagine this dude taking an entire animatronic like that and not having selfies with it on his phone/leaving a huge trail of evidence.
GhostlyGoofy
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This is a good point. He'd have a 1000 geotagged selfies documenting the crime.For some reason, deep in my heart of hearts, I don't think BDD took Buzzy. Just an gut thing I guess. I really feel it was somebody else. I think BDD probably KNOWS the person/people who were involved, but I just cannot imagine this dude taking an entire animatronic like that and not having selfies with it on his phone/leaving a huge trail of evidence.
justintheharris
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When I read the affidavit, it’s almost certain new charges will come. 18 items got recovered and it said that each one would comprise new charges (at least his cousin’s affidavit said it).This sites shows what proof the state will need
View attachment 380649Grand Theft- Florida | Definition, Penalties, Defenses
In Florida, Grand Theft is the unlawful taking of property valued at $750 or more. Grand theft is a felony offense, with severe penalties, including prison.
If the charges are just for the HM Props there probably wont even be jail time, just some hefty fines, probation.
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However if more charges get added for other props sold and buzzy really is worth 120k...
justintheharris
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There is a mention that when the police confiscated his phone, he resisted and tried to take it back. That led to him being arrested for resisting law enforcement. I'm not sure how drawn out this scenario was. Whether it was a simple snatch and struggle or a grand chase down I4 but it would appear to me that if he had more than 30 seconds with that phone to himself, he could quickly delete many incriminating photos. He obviously didn't delete them all though given the Haunted Mansion photos.
MGMBoy
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Speaking as someone with a father in law enforcement (and specializing in data recovery), even if he did "delete" the images, they could very likely be recovered.
glawio
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I can neither confirm nor deny that I do work for a major company named after a fruit but there are definitely ways around encryption of deleted items from their cloud service and operating systems. These ways are expensive and difficult so I would suppose it depends on how determined the investigators are.
Hadn’t we heard that Disney imagineers we’re testing the animatronic as recently as last summer? That sounds to me like they could have been planning to use it for something.It just seems so silly to me. Buzzy has been dead for years. They had no plan to use him for anything. His usefulness was spent. He had a good run, but, it came to an end. Value of $120,000? Seriously? It might have cost Disney that much to create him, but, as of the closing of WoL Pavilion he was already an asset depreciated entry on the corporate tax form. Spare parts maybe to some extent. Who knows maybe Disney did just recycle him for parts, but, upon seeing the response decided to continue the charade and just said he was missing to throw everyone off the path. Hey, it could happen. Whether it did or not remains to be seen, but, I know that if I never hear about it anymore, it will not be one of the things I think about on my death bed. It would probably be more like... I wonder if I should have gotten that penicillin shot back in 1969.
glawio
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We saw pictures of scaffolding up around Buzzy in 2013, after he had been cleaned up/repainted. We've never had a clear answer as to what was being done to him, whether this was just his repainting or him being tested. His hands and fingers are in different positions in the scaffolding pics than pics of the next time we saw him, so it seems he was at least running a bit.
Also as I am inspecting these pics, I'm pretty sure the animatronic only has two fingers on his left hand, I guess because he doesn't use that hand during the show much beyond holding the lever so they didn't need a full articulated hand like his right is.
Just interesting.