This. Even the BGM was played locally.
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Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested
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justintheharris
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There is judgement that goes into sentencing. The judgewill be considering all his taunts and lack of remorse and the fact that he clearly has no intentions of changing his behavior. He will spend at minimum one year in prison. Possibly more. If not, I will be incredibly surprised and worried for our justice system.
justintheharris
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I just read the full affidavit and that buyer (who I will not mention by name until they're arrested) claims he didn't know it was stolen and that Spikes said he had permission from Disney to have it. From this, I can conclude that the buyer is probably guilty of a lot more than Patrick is and is trying to cooperate with the investigations in hopes for immunity. There's no way the buyer didn't know it was stolen and I'm certain he's sold off incredibly valuable items that Spikes sold to him. The buyer only had 18 of the items and I'm willing to bet there's other items that he personally sold off. The charges against Spikes will increase. And I'm willing to bet at least four people will be going to prison in this saga.
justintheharris
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It really depends. Technically no backstage pictures are allowed just to be safe. But if a cast member sends you a selfie from their break room, it's not worth Disney efforts to take action. If the cast members are taking pictures of things to ruin the magic, THAT is where dismissal becomes protocol.
Gringrinngghost
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I’m sorry, but it’s impossible for us to — without the evidence that the OCSO has to fully determine if the buyer that had the 18 times should even be arrested. There needs to be a probable cause for the OCSO to even determine if the buyer of the 18 items would even need to have charges filed against them, which I can say at this juncture that it’s unlikely. The buyer as per the affidavit has been cooperating with the OCSO, and would IF charges get filed, they would be to a lesser charge due to the cooperation. Patrick Spikes has proven especially with his actions in the with the affidavit that he is an unreliable person, with the intentional modification of the search warrant to skew the perspective into them bullying him. With that, I do believe that within the burden of proof especially with the lack of documentation that we have which the OCSO has —which again is part of multiple ongoing investigations— that it’s unlikely that the buyer knew the items were stolen to begin with. We do not know how they communicated nor if there is an middle man in between them or what was exactly communicated between them. All we know overall is that this person bought merchandise off someone, whom in this case is Patrick Spikes and that in this case, Patrick Spikes represented himself to the buyer as someone who had legally obtained this merchandise, and as learned over time, Patrick Spikes will do anything to anyone to make himself look good such as misrepresentation of legal documents and acting as a victim when there was probable cause to secure his phone to search it given the facts the OCSO had to skew the public opinion. When going forth in your comment, “There's no way the buyer didn't know it was stolen” can be seen even within this context as a potentially uninformed comment, as we can extend that to once was ThemeParkConnection and MouseSurplus, as we have no proof that the items that they sold were stolen as well. All we knew is that outside of the items, that they were being presented as being authorized to have them and thusly can conclude that they had permission to sell them from Disney, at one point ThemeParkConnection sold attraction manuals. So as of this juncture, the buyer being guilty doesn’t pass the litmus test. Patrick Spikes gave him an the explanation was plausible, as we know with MouseSurplus and ThemeParkConnection did have Disney merchandise for sale that was legally obtained, that in my opinion the state won’t be able to sustain its burden of proof that the buyer knowingly received stolen property.
GhostlyGoofy
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Yeah I find it hard to imagine the Buyer really believed Spikes to be an above the board seller of wdw props. If that were the case the two probably wouldn't have been making transactions in strip mall parking lots.
I mean it's possible, but not very likely. We'll see If he gets his day in court as well.
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MickeyMinnieMom
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Generally speaking, I totally agree with @flynnibus -- Disney wants to avoid being the big bad prosecutor of the little guy.
But in this case, Spikes is not at all a sympathetic character -- he's an adult (not a kid) from a well-off family who broke his employer's rules, got himself fired, started a well-documented and juvenile vendetta with the company online, and to top it all of stole and sold Disney's property.
What about any of that is sympathetic? And I think it's easy to capture these facts in short soundbites like on Twitter. In this case, I think it would look like Disney following through -- a great example for other losers out there to see. This doesn't speak to what Disney WILL actually choose to do -- just that I think it would be justified (and could EASILY be portrayed as such on social media, etc. -- that they should go after him 100%.
Demarke
Have I told you lately that I 👍 you?
Plus, didn’t this guy already try the old “skew facts and try to make big, bad Disney and the Sheriff’s dept. look like they are conspiring against this poor kid just because he wants to share some photos online” routine? Didn’t gain traction outside of a few likes on his Twitter rants the first time, why would that change when there is even more evidence of way more egregious conduct now?
As CoP dad would say, “didn’t work then; doesn’t work now!”
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networkpro
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- In the Parks
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Its quite sad that the felon known as "BDD" has attempted to cover his tracks, clearly he has no idea of how social media sites on the internet literally back up everything just as a precaution in the event of lawsuits.
Goofnut1980
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wait... people get wifi in jail???
GhostlyGoofy
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Plus, didn’t this guy already try the old “skew facts and try to make big, bad Disney and the Sheriff’s dept. look like they are conspiring against this poor kid just because he wants to share some photos online” routine? Didn’t gain traction outside of a few likes on his Twitter rants the first time, why would that change when there is even more evidence of way more egregious conduct now?
As CoP dad would say, “didn’t work then; doesn’t work now!”
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The affidavit does in fact cited that exact YouTube video.
If we're talking pure optics this case is not Davy vs. Goliath.
Its Goliath vs. slightly smaller Goliath who couldn't stop running his mouth and leaving a crater sized Digital footprint.
This Lawfirm is really gonna earn their rate.
Many people on Twitter said the BDD handle was taken over by a friend. Although that didn't look good and I saw a few news articles even quote those tweets saying BDD was making light of the situation.
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My95cobras
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You can find these results on any criminal defense website..... they handle thousands of cases and use the best outcomes... some of these are minimum grand theft cases, right over 300 bucks from Walmart with no criminal history or lower pointing felonies. Not knowing his criminal history, how he ‘points out’ will be interesting for his sentencing.
Dragonman
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Yup that’s it. Pretty neat if you ask me.
flynnibus
Premium Member
It’s an easy story to tell if you want to.... but the juice in the story is Disney sues kid for huge money for stealing some trivial clothes.... the web isn’t obligated to tell both sides, nor is spikes is a bad kid story worthy of clicks. So they won’t tell that angle with the same vitriol.
What everyone keeps missing is the facts don’t matter when spinning a story for emotional outrage. You don’t lead with the justification... you lead with the outrageous emotional hook and that’s all it takes.
And everyone under 25 is a kid IMO... you’re still figuring things out.
At some point, one has to consider the reputation... or notoriety... of the person offering the merchandise for sale. Prudence would dictate that anything offered by a self-admitted "urban explorer" should be treated at best as suspect and at worst as hotter than a Tampa lightning bolt.
flynnibus
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More than that if convicted on the 3 felonies.
You should read up on Florida’s mandatory minimum sentencing rules. Here’s a lawyer’s explaination - http://macklawpa.com/criminal-defense/felony-score-sheet - and the raw material http://www.dc.state.fl.us/pub/sen_cpcm/index.html
Btw... the burglary charge alone is a first degree felony which alone would exceed the limit requiring mandatory prison time.
flynnibus
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Theft is the least of the charges he faces... that’s only a third degree felony. The fencing and burglary of the occupied structure are the two big charges he faces... first and second degree felonies. The burglary one is the heavy hitter.
GhostlyGoofy
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But the story is deeper than just stealing some clothes. He fabricated false ID badges... (which he was kind enough to document creating with photos of the process). On the kingdomcast podcast he boasted about buying an $800 ID badge printer. (Again thanks for the evidence.)Had an accomplice disguise himself as a technician. And the Haunted Mansion clothes appear to be just a sample of what was stolen based on police reports.
This was a well-off adult employee, who put a lot of thought into orchestrating these heists. His arrogance is ultimately what will sink him.