Major Room Discounts Coming for Early Summer and Late Spring 2025

[Touchdown]

All that stuff is “free”…not gonna happen

Cutting the VQ would be revenue neutral/potentially cost saving due to not having staff devoted to propping up that stupid system.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The DVC AP pass or the non DVC one (which is quite a bit higher). It seems unless someone is going 3+ times a year, their highest tier pass doesn’t make much sense (that’s the only one non FL residents, non DVC can buy)

For locals the lower passes make sense

With the blackout…it doesn’t make sense for the dvc such as I

Not a good enough product…frankly

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Cutting the VQ would be revenue neutral/potentially cost saving due to not having staff devoted to propping up that stupid system.

Nah…that’s not how they would choose to frame it.

“Giving” extra hours would decrease the implied pressure to buy line skips and those stupid nighttime tickets

 

[JD80]

There are only two VQs. Why does this keep coming up?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

There are only two VQs. Why does this keep coming up?

Just lump it in with all the other bad look policies

Fundamentally: you buy a very expensive ticket to make the Mickey spin…and that’s about it. To actually use the rides is a minefield of upcharges, firm schedules and often blind luck.

It’s just “poorly tasting”

Disney and it’s praetorians are very slow to grasp this

 

[Touchdown]

There are only two VQs. Why does this keep coming up?

How many other VQs are there for rides at theme parks around the world? Heck, how many at other Disney parks?

VQ at Fantasy Springs glows away this Spring, DL already nixed it for Tiana. WDW will literally stand alone in a few months, and one ride that has it is almost 4 years old!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

How many other VQs are there for rides at theme parks around the world? Heck, how many at other Disney parks?

VQ at Fantasy Springs glows away this Spring, DL already nixed it for Tiana. WDW will literally stand alone in a few months, and one ride that has it is almost 4 years old!

20 years of lack of proper investment to ensure capacity

 

[mattpeto]

I have a very strong feeling that you're going to see a lot of love thrown to AP Holders and Florida Residents, with also an emphasis on getting guests who've moved past Disney to come back. (Now that they desperately need us)

Keep in mind that Room Discounts and free dining are the smallest levers to pull.

My guess is that it's not going to move the needle and bigger things are going to get pulled.

I do hope your right but I'm very skeptical.

The perk they came up with for 2025 was a free water park day on your arrival. They had plenty of desirable old perks sitting there (complimentary magic bands, airport shuttles, free/discounted lightning lane) and I guess they just decided it would cut into their glorious Chapek ratio of guest spending/day.

I'm sure the summer ticket deal will be back. Besides discounting rack dates and the dining plan promo - I'm not expecting much.

 

[Touchdown]

20 years of lack of proper investment to ensure capacity

It’s not even really needed, those queues aren’t going to get much bigger. They have this misplaced belief it will cause less LL sales, which as evidenced by Rise, is not true in the slightest.

 

[HauntedPirate]

There are only two VQs. Why does this keep coming up?

Two reasons:

1. Perception
2. Optics

I can see having a VQ for the first month, maybe two, of a new attraction's operation - TDO is very averse to the optics of 4+ hour wait times after what happened with Hagrid's. After that opening month or two, VQ needs to go away. The fact that Guardians still has one, and Tron had one until this year, gives the perception that it's needed when it's not. TDO knows that it makes a boatload from GotG LLSP purchases, and having a VQ keeps that alive, at least for GotG. I honestly don't believe there is enough actual demand for that ride and a lot of it is 100% optics-driven: "It has a VQ, it must be worth it!!!". They also didn't like the optics of having two VQ's in one park, even though TBA didn't and doesn't really need it.

 

[JD80]

How many other VQs are there for rides at theme parks around the world? Heck, how many at other Disney parks?

VQ at Fantasy Springs glows away this Spring, DL already nixed it for Tiana. WDW will literally stand alone in a few months, and one ride that has it is almost 4 years old!

Wah.

 

[Touchdown]

Wah.

VQ is a direct limit on guests. You are only allowed to ride a ride once at a time not determined my you, twice if you pay extra. To those of us who rope drop and close we know how to ride at the extreme ends of the day and get reasonable waits. GotG has standby lengths that vary from 10 kin-over an hour artificially by this VQ system as many people chose to wait for the end of the day to cash it in. I want the ability to chose to wait to ride a ride I paid to be able to experience when I want, and potentially chose to ride it multiple times. It will also drop Frozen, Soarin, Test Track (when it reopens,) lines at rope drop by spreading out the crowds.

 

[JD80]

I do hope your right but I'm very skeptical.

The perk they came up with for 2025 was a free water park day on your arrival. They had plenty of desirable old perks sitting there (complimentary magic bands, airport shuttles, free/discounted lightning lane) and I guess they just decided it would cut into their glorious Chapek ratio of guest spending/day.

I'm sure the summer ticket deal will be back. Besides discounting rack dates and the dining plan promo - I'm not expecting much.

Agreed. I wouldn't expect anything out of the ordinary.

I've got a 6 person family trip in July next year and I'm booked at a family suite at AoA with hoppers. I'm waiting for all the discounts to drop to compare whether or not two rooms at CBR would be any marginal difference than stay at AoA and I'm expecting a 20-25% discount for either resort.

Currently the free dining promo (quick service for 5 adults and 1 child) they are offering is a better deal than the rack rate discount, by a factor of two. (roughly $150 vs. $300 per night).

They only massive shift in pricing dynamics would be going back to the 2018/2019 costs of multi day ticket packages where tickets were highly discounted starting at your 4/5th ticket vs. your 6/7th.

Free LLMP wouldn't be a huge value if it's the only promo vs. rack rate or free dining offers. Free LLMP would only be an incentive to book AFTER other offers are applied. It would probably be smart of Disney to offer free LLMP to ticket packages of 6 or more days to incentive more days in the parks and longer vacations.

From the out of state perspective, the major cost center for a trip is tickets.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Two reasons:

1. Perception
2. Optics

I can see having a VQ for the first month, maybe two, of a new attraction's operation - TDO is very averse to the optics of 4+ hour wait times after what happened with Hagrid's. After that opening month or two, VQ needs to go away. The fact that Guardians still has one, and Tron had one until this year, gives the perception that it's needed when it's not. TDO knows that it makes a boatload from GotG LLSP purchases, and having a VQ keeps that alive, at least for GotG. I honestly don't believe there is enough actual demand for that ride and a lot of it is 100% optics-driven: "It has a VQ, it must be worth it!!!". They also didn't like the optics of having two VQ's in one park, even though TBA didn't and doesn't really need it.

Yep…

“Please give us $140 to enter…and another $60 to hop…
But we can’t guarantee we have space in the line for you”

Optics are atrocious

Wah.

You’re gonna wear out your knees if you don’t occasionally give them a rest

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Agreed. I wouldn't expect anything out of the ordinary.

I've got a 6 person family trip in July next year and I'm booked at a family suite at AoA with hoppers. I'm waiting for all the discounts to drop to compare whether or not two rooms at CBR would be any marginal difference than stay at AoA and I'm expecting a 20-25% discount for either resort.

Currently the free dining promo (quick service for 5 adults and 1 child) they are offering is a better deal than the rack rate discount, by a factor of two. (roughly $150 vs. $300 per night).

They only massive shift in pricing dynamics would be going back to the 2018/2019 costs of multi day ticket packages where tickets were highly discounted starting at your 4/5th ticket vs. your 6/7th.

Free LLMP wouldn't be a huge value if it's the only promo vs. rack rate or free dining offers. Free LLMP would only be an incentive to book AFTER other offers are applied. It would probably be smart of Disney to offer free LLMP to ticket packages of 6 or more days to incentive more days in the parks and longer vacations.

From the out of state perspective, the major cost center for a trip is tickets.

Wait…where’s your dvc???

Man up and buy your way out of steerage

 

[mattpeto]

I actually think guardians is still on virtual queue because they don’t want a line of people outside the building.

Tiana’s has to be coming off soon anyway. Disney even dropped that hint when the ride opened.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Tiana’s has to be coming off soon anyway. Disney even dropped that hint when the ride opened.

..:interest level might not be what they had anticipated

 

[JD80]

I actually think guardians is still on virtual queue because they don’t want a line of people outside the building.

Tiana’s has to be coming off soon anyway. Disney even dropped that hint when the ride opened.

I can't see TBA's VQ long for this world (pun intended). With Land's gone and how lax they are with return times at TBA it's basically an afterthought.

 

[mattpeto]

..:interest level might not be what they had anticipated

Nah I think it was a reliability.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Nah I think it was a reliability.

…then the interest would spike when it works

Occam’s razor here