Major 2015 Pirates of the Caribbean Refurbishment Watch/Rumor.

HMF

HMF

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Endor Sightseer said:
Are they bringing back the talking parrot?
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Goofyernmost

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Miss Heinous said:
Wow... someone's not been keeping up around here. POTC has been in terrible shape for the last few years, and many cast members have come out and said that it was close to becoming a death trap.
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CM's along with others have a tendency toward drama. With the exception of the one account I heard about of a boat coming over the top of a boat ahead, which has never really been confirmed, I know of no other things about it that would make it even slightly dangerous. The water is only about a foot or so deep, with the exception of docking the sides are not in contact with anything and unless one is the Wicked Witch of the West, water splashing, no matter how much, isn't likely to hurt anyone.

Disney doesn't have a stable full of high paid lawyers to just ignore problems that could predictably lead to something being a death trap. There are hardly any moving parts, just flowing water operated by pumps that are nowhere near the rider. Forget about the Guests, it would certainly not be in the best interest of Disney to have that type of hazard hanging over them. These are the same people that put those unnecessary tiny doors on the trams.
 
JoeCamel

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Goofyernmost said:
CM's along with others have a tendency toward drama. With the exception of the one account I heard about of a boat coming over the top of a boat ahead, which has never really been confirmed, I know of no other things about it that would make it even slightly dangerous. The water is only about a foot or so deep, with the exception of docking the sides are not in contact with anything and unless one is the Wicked Witch of the West, water splashing, no matter how much, isn't likely to hurt anyone.

Disney doesn't have a stable full of high paid lawyers to just ignore problems that could predictably lead to something being a death trap. There are hardly any moving parts, just flowing water operated by pumps that are nowhere near the rider. Forget about the Guests, it would certainly not be in the best interest of Disney to have that type of hazard hanging over them. These are the same people that put those unnecessary tiny doors on the trams.
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What about the reports of a guest losing a finger? I don't know the veracity of that report but I do remember reading it. Could be guest error but I would think it would be designed to take that into account.

Just give me the ride as designed and I will keep my arms and legs inside the boat and in return I expect boats that won't maim me or soak me.
 
Goofyernmost

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JoeCamel said:
What about the reports of a guest losing a finger? I don't know the veracity of that report but I do remember reading it. Could be guest error but I would think it would be designed to take that into account.

Just give me the ride as designed and I will keep my arms and legs inside the boat and in return I expect boats that won't maim me or soak me.
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That was a case where the injured person completely took responsibility for his actions. He had his hands outside the boat trying to see if he could reach something, if I recall. Even if he hadn't that does not a death trap make.

I much prefer that PoTC not soak me as well. However, it is a water ride and water is wet. There is a downhill run that hits the water and splashes. It shouldn't as much as it does, but, one should reasonably expect that if they are on a boat ride, water might become a factor.
 
JoeCamel

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Goofyernmost said:
That was a case where the injured person completely took responsibility for his actions. He had his hands outside the boat trying to see if he could reach something, if I recall. Even if he hadn't that does not a death trap make.

I much prefer that PoTC not soak me as well. However, it is a water ride and water is wet. There is a downhill run that hits the water and splashes. It shouldn't as much as it does, but, one should reasonably expect that if they are on a boat ride, water might become a factor.
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I agree that injuries are the guest's fault in the majority of cases but the change to the flimsy boats from DL is inexcusable. They need to repair these (can they put a prow on them to keep the water where it belongs?) or get the others remade and let the water be a few inches deeper to keep them from bottoming. Something must be done. You are NOT supposed to be soaked on this ride.
 
Goofyernmost

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JoeCamel said:
I agree that injuries are the guest's fault in the majority of cases but the change to the flimsy boats from DL is inexcusable. They need to repair these (can they put a prow on them to keep the water where it belongs?) or get the others remade and let the water be a few inches deeper to keep them from bottoming. Something must be done. You are NOT supposed to be soaked on this ride.
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I cannot tell you why the water situation is worse now then with the older ones, but, in all fairness, it is a front seat only problem. I sat in the middle of the first row and water went on both sides of me. If someone else had been sitting there they would have been quite wet. I agree, they have to fix that, it's not supposed to be a splash ride other then a couple of drops. As for the bottoming out, I'm not sure how that could happen no matter what the situation. Boats displace only so much water and those seem at least as wide as the old ones. I'm not even sure how they could bottom out since the only time it has any downward movement is in the drop, the rest is just floating along. The bottoming out is something that I have not personally ever experienced, so I cannot really comment on it. I sometimes wonder if it is being confused with the lift belt at the end of the ride where it comes up under the boat to bring it uphill or if the pumps are not keeping up and there is a time, occasionally, that there just isn't enough water in the flume. Just don't know. I think that one of the things that they are working on during the refurb are the pumps. There really isn't anything much else that drives that ride. The only way it can stop is if the water stops flowing.
 
Rodan75

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Goofyernmost said:
I cannot tell you why the water situation is worse now then with the older ones, but, in all fairness, it is a front seat only problem. I sat in the middle of the first row and water went on both sides of me. If someone else had been sitting there they would have been quite wet. I agree, they have to fix that, it's not supposed to be a splash ride other then a couple of drops. As for the bottoming out, I'm not sure how that could happen no matter what the situation. Boats displace only so much water and those seem at least as wide as the old ones. I'm not even sure how they could bottom out since the only time it has any downward movement is in the drop, the rest is just floating along. The bottoming out is something that I have not personally ever experienced, so I cannot really comment on it. I sometimes wonder if it is being confused with the lift belt at the end of the ride where it comes up under the boat to bring it uphill or if the pumps are not keeping up and there is a time, occasionally, that there just isn't enough water in the flume. Just don't know. I think that one of the things that they are working on during the refurb are the pumps. There really isn't anything much else that drives that ride. The only way it can stop is if the water stops flowing.
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The old boats definitely 'bottomed out' on the lift ramp. But that may have been more about grip and the lift than the boats.
 
Monoblanco13

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So regarding this attraction I have heard promising things as currently the attraction is drained, as well as all AA's currently removed. So only the environments are in place. Also heard before the refurb CM's needed to try and balance out the boats. Nothing confirmed but I have much optimism regarding this refurb and look forward to its opening.
 
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orlando678-

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I heard people saying that the ride was going to receive a new interactive queue, I guess not now you told me about safety and effect improvements.
 
Professor_Jason

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Monoblanco13 said:
So regarding this attraction I have heard promising things as currently the attraction is drained, as well as all AA's currently removed. So only the environments are in place. Also heard before the refurb CM's needed to try and balance out the boats. Nothing confirmed but I have much optimism regarding this refurb and look forward to its opening.
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That would be a neat thing to get to see Pirates as an empty stage without it's characters
 
Victor Kelly

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Rodan75 said:
So not true. We may not have had them, but lawsuits from the 80's and 90's caused what we see today. If they had used a modicum of safety then, maybe we wouldn't be nannied now.
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So TRUE. People nowadays are so dumb they need warnings on HOT Coffee. We see people that are so dumb that they moving into a moving train or seek to exit a boat while it is traveling along a flume. All this after they have been warned numerous times to keep their hands and arms inside the ride vehicle. I believe Darwinism is the best way to let humans live. We are seeing a shallowing of the gene pool. How does anyone explain all these safety measures being required in the US, but not elsewhere in the world? The answer is that Americans are getting progressively dumber, lazy and hyper dependent on others to protect them instead of protecting themselves.
 

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