Major 2015 Pirates of the Caribbean Refurbishment Watch/Rumor.

[Bairstow]

Because the night is dark and full of terrors.

Excuse me, I need to go spread rumors that the Magic Kingdom ride will be rethemed/renamed Pirates of Ironman's Bay.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

They could have added Jack without changing the plot of the ride to revolve around him in a nonsensical fashion.

It's nonsensical for him to be hiding out?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

An issue of design and storytelling at a place all about design and storytelling is ridiculous?

When it's not at all an issue, yes. Do you think there's something you thought of that the Imagineers either didn't think of or didn't discuss? Then maybe you should apply for the job.

Story is fine, the continuity is fine, move along – nothing to see here.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Being a new story is not the issue. But how would you even know if you can't notice the differences?

I don't think they're making these rides to stand up to such ridiculous scrutiny. They are made especially for eight-year-olds. If you love them as I do as an adult, great. But if you are critiquing them as great artwork, with all due respect, that is misplaced.

I agree that attention to detail is important, and that a sprawling park of this nature is difficult to maintain – I have noticed a drummer out of whack on it's a small world and it was fixed by our next visit.

But the average parkgoer - the children, the one time tourists, the people just trying to have a fun vacation – really shouldn't be affected by such things. Nobody is confused by the Pirates ride. There is no "there" there. You are making splash Mountain out of a molehill.

 

[ToTBellHop]

It's nonsensical for him to be hiding out?

Imagine Captain Jack in the Iron Throne at the end...

 

[roj2323]

Imagine Captain Jack in the Iron Throne at the end...

perhaps?

 

[marni1971]

I can't go into details but the refurb is indeed a thorough one, both technically and artistically. Sparrow and the movie influences are still intact but overall the ride should look, feel, sound and smell like new. With some welcome additions too.

 

[Cesar R M]

They could have added Jack without changing the plot of the ride to revolve around him in a nonsensical fashion.

Agree. but I think he seriously missed my point regarding what is a problem and what is an issue.
Another allegory would be.. STARS do not cease to exist just because you stopped watching them. They are still there regardless if you knowledge their existence or not.

still, he mentioned the boats.
the new boats at WDW DO have a problem of half sinking and not capable of being loaded at 100% capacity... so theres that.

I wonder.. anyone has any news about this? will the flumes get a tweak to prevent the water issue?

I can't go into details but the refurb is indeed a thorough one, both technically and artistically. Sparrow and the movie influences are still intact but overall the ride should look, feel, sound and smell like new. With some welcome additions too.

Always good to read to such news!

 

[Bairstow]

perhaps?

 

[The Duck]

I can't go into details but the refurb is indeed a thorough one, both technically and artistically. Sparrow and the movie influences are still intact but overall the ride should look, feel, sound and smell like new. With some welcome additions too.

Looking forward to those welcome additions, whatever they are. BTW, this is my 1,000th post! Yay! Hurrah for me! Umm... carry on...

 

[Castle Cake Apologist]

I can't go into details but the refurb is indeed a thorough one, both technically and artistically. Sparrow and the movie influences are still intact but overall the ride should look, feel, sound and smell like new. With some welcome additions too.

You sure are a tease Martin. Great news though.... Very excited to see it when it finally reopens.
Pirates was in pretty rough shape, hopefully all the safety issues both backstage and on are also being addressed?

 

[HMF]

It's nonsensical for him to be hiding out?

It's nonsenseical for the town to be hiding him when his intention is to take THEIR treasure.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

It's nonsenseical for the town to be hiding him when his intention is to take THEIR treasure.

Is he just hiding, or are they hiding him? Maybe he double crosses them. I give up. You take a freaking Kiddie ride way too seriously.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I can't go into details but the refurb is indeed a thorough one, both technically and artistically. Sparrow and the movie influences are still intact but overall the ride should look, feel, sound and smell like new. With some welcome additions too.

This is exciting!

 

[Sage of Time]

I can't go into details but the refurb is indeed a thorough one, both technically and artistically. Sparrow and the movie influences are still intact but overall the ride should look, feel, sound and smell like new. With some welcome additions too.

Fantastic. I'm getting really excited for this.

 

[Bairstow]

I'm very curious to see if and how they resolved the problem of the boats taking on water.

 

[Iwerks64]

I defend, and will continue to do so, the fact that I do not see all the issues that those of you that insist that nothing ever change seem to get all theatrical about. I'm not sure of what the point is. Is it because they have added (plus'd) an attraction with a change the overall did not change the feeling of the ride, but, made it more current and perhaps sustained its life over a longer period of time or is it because it has attacked those sensibilities that things remain a shrine for a few to worship.

I defend the change in Pirates BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK IT WAS A BAD IDEA. I don't need to defend Disney for anything and I seldom do, however, if I think that something was improved, even to a slightest degree, by a change to it, then I am going to say so and I am going to say why. One thing that you have never heard me say is... well, you guys are in that mode because you hate any change that has been made and do everything in your abilities to bad mouth it. None of you have the slightest idea what really makes an attraction great except personal opinion. I don't have any idea what makes an attraction great. I do know, however, what I like and don't like and no number of attacks saying that I am defending Disney is going to change that opinion. You are free to not like something, but, at least try to come up with a reason other then, that is different then what it was. Mostly what I hear from the negative side is an imagined image of what the original designers thought was and what was good at the time. That can no longer be used as an argument, this is the 21st Century not 1955. This is a different culture then the last century. This culture demands change or things die. Sentimentality only applies to those that experienced it in the past when the vast number of people that attend now do not have that connection. The company is no longer owned or operated by anyone named Disney. I look back at the old Disney which was great, but, I also can drop the name of Walt Disney and say, with a degree of confidence, based his own words, that things will continue to change. He would be upsetting the hell out of all those that refuse to accept that change is not bad. We all have to stop making like Walt would never have changed that, because he certainly would have. Nowhere did he ever say... that's good, never change it.

I can't speak for some of the other folks who see a problem with the changes to PotC, but I do agree with some of the "complaints". I don't think it was a bad idea either to look at a classic ride and plus it to make it more exciting and relevant for a whole new generation who have grown up on the movies. It's not the idea that's bad, it's the ultimate implementation. In the immortal words of Dai Vernon, they "stopped thinking too soon." I say this because the WDC and their imagineers have shown me what they are capable of and have set my expectation level. I don't think any ride is a shrine that should never be changed (even CoP), but do it in a way that makes me say "Bravo, well done". They've done it before. The Jack AA is a great piece of work, but it is stylistically jarring. The "plot holes" of Jack's hide-and-seek game could have easily been fixed. Adding Davy Jones mist screen, mermaids in the caverns, Barbossa on the ship, etc. all easily make the ride more relevant to today's movie fans without alienating the die hards. "Stopping thinking too soon" seems to be getting to be a more common occurrence these days at TWDC.

 

[networkpro]

I'm very curious to see if and how they resolved the problem of the boats taking on water.

Only way would be to limit the occupants to a total weight limit per boat, or introduce vertical bars that patrons must pass between before they can reach the boats.

 

[monothingie]

Only way would be to limit the occupants to a total weight limit per boat, or introduce vertical bars that patrons must pass between before they can reach the boats.

 

[Bairstow]

Only way would be to limit the occupants to a total weight limit per boat, or introduce vertical bars that patrons must pass between before they can reach the boats.

Is the problem weight-related?
My understanding is that this problem has always been tied to the prow shape of the new plastic boats.