Main Street U.S.A. hub redevelopment at the Magic Kingdom

[spacemt354]

If I have to explain it to you then obviously there is no point.

Explain what?

 

[peter11435]

Explain what?

The absurdity of his post. You should be able to recognize it on your own but who knows.

 

[Goofywilliam]

Just curious as to how long some people expect the horticulture aspect of this transformation to take? Is that a relatively short amount of time compared to everything else?

I would expect that the horticulture team has many of the plants (shrubs, flowers) already grown, ready to be placed and planted in the hub. Turf grass takes no time to lay (which is what I would expect them to use) so I would expect this part of the transformation to take no time at all.

 

[spacemt354]

The absurdity of his post. You should be able to recognize it on your own but who knows.

No I doubt the budget was slashed due to an IT cut. That's correlation not causation. Also they're two different departments.

It makes more sense when you just say that if that's how you feel because the opaqueness of your response using "again" was confusing.

 

[cheezbat]

I'm at the park today...haven't been here in almost a year....geez is this thing a real big ugly mess! Having the crane up behind the castle on top of it just adds to the ugly.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I'm at the park today...haven't been here in almost a year....geez is this thing a real big ugly mess! Having the crane up behind the castle on top of it just adds to the ugly.

Life's a struggle.

 

[Cosmic Commando]

Just curious as to how long some people expect the horticulture aspect of this transformation to take? Is that a relatively short amount of time compared to everything else?

They switch out most or all of Town Square from Halloween to Christmas and probably do more all in one night. They shouldn't have too much trouble with the new hub.

 

[note2001]

Read the annoucement carefully, The jobs are being transferred offshore

Unfortunately most jobs are being transferred offshore, in particular to India... different discussion for a different day as I have too much to say about that

However,the IT issues have nothing to do with construction in the hub as far as I can fathom unless they're also off-shoring construction, sort of impossible to do. Disney knows better than to take shortcuts with this if they intend on it lasting another 40+ years.

 

[Horizons1]

They switch out most or all of Town Square from Halloween to Christmas and probably do more all in one night. They shouldn't have too much trouble with the new hub.

Boy, those were fun nights.

 

[Horizons1]

Thats sad. I know for sure that the horticulture team over at Disneyland have a moderate amount of control over what is planted (after all, they are the experts). If they are not in control at WDW, who is? Imagineering?

When I did horticulture I never got a clear answer. Half told me Imagineering, the other half said upper management. There really isn't much creativity allowed in horticulture. You follow strict guidelines or you get the boot.

 

[Cosmic Commando]

Boy, those were fun nights.

Bravo, sir (or madam).

I'm going to do the rare self-quote here:

The last MNSSHP was on 11/1 in 2010, I believe. They probably don't do much on the actual night of the last party since the park doesn't close until 12 and probably isn't actually cleared out until a couple hours later.

Here's Town Square the afternoon of 11/3/2010:

And here's Town Square at 8:15 AM 11/4/2010:

Not only are scarecrows swapped out for the toy soldiers and candy canes, but all the flowers are changed and the Mickey wreaths are up on the lamp posts.

So if the last MNSSHP is on the 2nd, I would expect to see a decent chunk of Christmas decorations up on the 5th. In 2010, we left on the 7th, and I remember seeing decorations on Hollywood Blvd, the big Christmas tree in front of DHS, and the garland over Main St before we left.

 

[Goofywilliam]

When I did horticulture I never got a clear answer. Half told me Imagineering, the other half said upper management. There really isn't much creativity allowed in horticulture. You follow strict guidelines or you get the boot.

Well that sucks. I am currently studying horticulture design at university hoping to go to graduate school for either landscape architecture or urban planning. I was looking into doing a professional internship in the horticulture department at the world thinking it would allow me to be a little creative. Oh well.

 

[Horizons1]

Well that sucks. I am currently studying horticulture design at university hoping to go to graduate school for either landscape architecture or urban planning. I was looking into doing a professional internship in the horticulture department at the world thinking it would allow me to be a little creative. Oh well.

The PI was fun, but you just do what you are told. Going into the parks at 4am is worth it.

 

[flynnibus]

I've said it before and will say it again. What makes Disney, Disney is the sum total of 1000's of details each of which the average guest would probably never notice the absence of , but take away enough of them and the parks will loose what has made them so great.

Yup...too bad too many are like 'but that part doesn't matter...'. The sum of 10,000 cuts. They forget it's the thousands of little things standing together that made the greatness... not just POTC or some favorite attractions. Take out all the connecting tissue and they are left with a disappointing disjointed thing that just doesn't 'feel' as good as the previous stuff. And they have no idea why...

 

[flynnibus]

Such desires are not conducive to the realities of the park.

But there is more than one way to skin a cat... just like the solution to highway congestion isn't always 'just add more lanes'.

 

[DVCOwner]

Yup...too bad too many are like 'but that part doesn't matter...'. The sum of 10,000 cuts. They forget it's the thousands of little things standing together that made the greatness... not just POTC or some favorite attractions. Take out all the connecting tissue and they are left with a disappointing disjointed thing that just doesn't 'feel' as good as the previous stuff. And they have no idea why...

But in the case of the redevelopment of the hub it looks like most of the things they are doing, they are doing like. So far it looks like they are balancing the need for more space for viewing, while still adding little touches in the way of planters, trees, new light, new rails. All of these seem to be positive. Less there will be less trees, but that is part of allowing for better viewing of the projection shows. I think if you look at recent projects, Walt Disney World is starting to turn around and heading back in the right direction. It has been a long time.

 

[The Visionary Soul]

I wonder if they also want to replace the grey paved street with a brick pattern too?

Don't hold your breath. I will tell you, should that ever happen, you can say goodbye to the horse-drawn trolley cars.

 

[ABQ]

Don't hold your breath. I will tell you, should that ever happen, you can say goodbye to the horse-drawn trolley cars.

But you expect they'll repaint all the green light poles from Town Square through to the hub brown?

 

[dstrawn9889]

nah, just like the concrete change leading to liberty square, they can use the change to denote that you are no longer in main street, but in the hub

 

[coruscant]

Don't hold your breath. I will tell you, should that ever happen, you can say goodbye to the horse-drawn trolley cars.

It will be very difficult to fully replace it.
However if they could do it that would not mean at all goodbye to the horse-drawn trolley cars



(this last one is not mine)