Main Street U.S.A. concrete replacement project begins tomorrow

Unplugged

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The delay in the start is due to the contractor not being able to deliver the necessary material to build the construction wall. His Magic Band would not work to let him in the park.
You'd think they'd also have the FastPass+ in place for the Contractor Wall Experience and the new Main Street show "Pixar's Jackhammers & Concrete Dance Party" where your kids can grab a trowel and help make history in the Magic Kingdom!
 

lazyboy97o

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For all those that insist on Main Street remaining true to 1900, you just saved Disney a ton of money. In 1900 it would probably have been dirt. Be careful what you wish for!
Many American municipalities in the late 19th and early 20th centuries required that the private streetcar company pave and maintain the roadway as part of receiving a right of way for their tracks.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Nah, that's too provincial looking.

The MK is build on a grander scale. With different needs. Black asphalt is gorgeous and works magic in the Florida sun.
No other Main Street can rival this:

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There ought to be asphalt on the large thoroughfare. And brick in the side streets. Brick works lovely in the MS Center Streets (bring back the west one, you bastards). The center streets aim for a more quaint look, more sedate, away from the hustle and bustle of the...main street.

Calm, provincial, sedate:

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willtravel

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Nah, that's too provincial looking.

The MK is build on a grander scale. With different needs. Black asphalt is gorgeous and works magic in the Florida sun.
No other Main Street can rival this:

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There ought to be asphalt on the large thoroughfare. And brick in the side streets. Brick works lovely in the MS Center Streets (bring back the west one, you bastards). The center streets aim for a more quaint look, more sedate, away from the hustle and bustle of the...main street.

Calm, provincial, sedate:

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I remember that 3rd picture. I loved that area then.
 

Goofyernmost

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It has been said before on this forum, but it's amazing how much better the castle sits on the horizon with the trees there.

They really need to introduce more trees into the park again, it just looks better.
I don't really have an opinion about it either way, but if the trees were still there the projection show on the castle wouldn't work as well as it does now.
 

ToTBellHop

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I don't really have an opinion about it either way, but if the trees were still there the projection show on the castle wouldn't work as well as it does now.
They removed the trees due to complaints that people couldn't see Wishes. I guess we got what we deserved? You know what they say--if you trim the undergrowth, the tree looks taller.
 

The Mom

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Many American municipalities in the late 19th and early 20th centuries required that the private streetcar company pave and maintain the roadway as part of receiving a right of way for their tracks.

I live a couple of blocks away from what was the end/turnaround of the streetcar line. The bricks are still there, and you can see where the rails were covered with asphalt - only the center has blacktop. Most of the bricks & rails were removed, or completely covered, but for some reason these were left in place.
 

COProgressFan

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It has been said before on this forum, but it's amazing how much better the castle sits on the horizon with the trees there.

They really need to introduce more trees into the park again, it just looks better.


And not just on Main Street, which badly needs it, but throughout the park. Trees just make a place feel more like an actual "park" than vast spans of concrete. (see Disneyland). And how about bringing back so many of the benches that have been removed?
 

Goofyernmost

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Many American municipalities in the late 19th and early 20th centuries required that the private streetcar company pave and maintain the roadway as part of receiving a right of way for their tracks.
I'm sure that what you are saying is true, however, that would not describe Marceline, Mo. It has been said many times that Main Street was done to resemble that Main Street. No pavement at all, no streetcars, just dirt. :)

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Sped2424

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It has been said before on this forum, but it's amazing how much better the castle sits on the horizon with the trees there.

They really need to introduce more trees into the park again, it just looks better.
Trees actually make it look like someone lives there, it gives that street depth and life and some much needed ambiance I think some guests will be able to live if they have to move couple centimeters to the left for fire works.
 

lazyboy97o

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I'm sure that what you are saying is true, however, that would not describe Marceline, Mo. It has been said many times that Main Street was done to resemble that Main Street. No pavement at all, no streetcars, just dirt. :)
Main Street, USA at Disneyland is inspired by Walt's time in Marceline, but it is not supposed to be or resemble Marceline. Plenty of Main Street, USA is pulled from other places where the Imagineers grew up (Especially Harper Goff and Fort Collins). It is a romantic amalgamation of small towns.

Main Street, USA at the Magic Kingdom is even less Marceline. It portrays a bigger, wealthier, more cosmopolitan city than what we see at Disneyland.
 

DrewmanS

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But Disneyland's brick sidewalks are kind of odd, since it's the reverse of what would actually be a c. 1900 street (brick street, paved sidewalk):

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DLP and HKDL get it right:

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And then there's World Bazaar in Tokyo with only a flat street with a fake "sidewalk":

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Which I hope does not happen at WDW's Main Street, which is already lacking in texture and detail.

Is the choice of material and construction effected by Florida weather and the fact the street is above the utilidors? You have to have something that stands up to summer heat, but will cool at night (brick holds heat so Main Street would be hotter at night), consider drainage during heavy downpours, and is light enough and constructed in a way as to not effect utilidors below.
 

Goofyernmost

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Main Street, USA at Disneyland is inspired by Walt's time in Marceline, but it is not supposed to be or resemble Marceline. Plenty of Main Street, USA is pulled from other places where the Imagineers grew up (Especially Harper Goff and Fort Collins). It is a romantic amalgamation of small towns.

Main Street, USA at the Magic Kingdom is even less Marceline. It portrays a bigger, wealthier, more cosmopolitan city than what we see at Disneyland.
I hope you guys are not thinking that I want Main Street to be dirt. I just want to point out when people come up with arguments like there was no Starbucks in Marceline, or point out some other thing that "doesn't fit" because it wasn't like that in 1900...you have to have it all. If you are going to stay true to a theme such as that it has to be all or nothing, if that is the intent. If the intent is to have the street itself look "something" like the past then it should be designed to look like Main Streets used to look. They have accomplished that and more. What is inside the buildings have absolutely no affect on the outside street ambiance. And carrying it even a step further...how many US cities have you been in where there was a castle at the head of the street.

If you were to ask 100 people what they think a street should look like if you are trying to give it that old timey feeling you would get 100 different answers. But to say that because it's about faux 1900 it should have brick streets. That would totally depend on where you happened to live in 1900. I don't think there is anyone left that was alive in 1900, so we have to go with our own image.
 

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