News Main Street Photo Supply Co. Being Replaced By Plaza Point Holiday Shoppe

[mickEblu]

Agreed! And this is the funny part, the store looks great and is a big improvement over the dark Kodak store that was there before. It looks fun and is a big improvement!

Ms. Keehne, as the interior designer who created this new Main Street space, is clearly a talented woman.

What's unfortunate is that the whole Miss Toro thing was saddled with this historically inaccurate and intellectually offensive "backstory" that seems to have been invented by a weak-kneed intern who wasn't allowed in to the WDI Research Library to double-check their own work.

Or worse, and this is where it gets scary, the backstory of Miss Toro really was created by an HR Committee who didn't care one whit about the park experience, and only spent 15 minutes on the project once they established that "she" would not be "white". And that's all they cared about.

More like 15 seconds!

 

[TP2000]

More like 15 seconds!

It's funny!

And yet it's not really funny. It's sad that they think they can get away with being this sloppy about stuff. And then make a big deal in the media about it because Diversity! and Inclusion! and She's Not White!

But there's absolutely no research behind it. No care. No thought. No energy. And if you think about it for more than 10 seconds, it makes no sense. Which makes it cheap and hollow. And pandering.

And because of all of those shortcomings, it weakens and cheapens the park experience.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I’m waiting for someone to end their post with “Ahora!”

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Oh! My! Gosh! That is you!

I saw the title on that YouTube video, and stupid me thought "That's funny, there's a very knowledgeable poster on wdwmagic.com that has the same name."

Of course, it's the same person. Honestly, sometimes I am so dense.

And I agree, little entertainment groups like these Silver Lake Sisters can really bring the parks to life, and give them depth and nuance and character that is invaluable.

My only wish is that if they are really going to try and add "Inclusion!" into the parks, that they give it more thought and more care than they clearly gave the time-traveling Miss Toro at the new Christmas shop.

The theme park division of the Walt Disney Company is clearly capable of that, as the Silver Lake Sisters prove to everyone.

Miss Toro, and the real woman she was based on, deserved more thought and more focus than she obviously received. It comes off as pandering and sloppy the way they handled it. And that's a shame.

Yeah, I don't often talk about my site or my YouTube channel here as it's not necessary to the conversation (and no, I am NOT a vlogger lol - I just record shows and performers, not me!). But yes - that's one of mine. (And... ok - plug... there's lots of park entertainment and park character content on there for folks who may be interested! Feel free to like and subscribe lol but I don't make any money from any of it - I've always posted content just to celebrate the talented cast members: https://www.youtube.com/mousertainment )

But it's also why I get protective about the entertainment and character cast - I've spent a lot of time with them and I know a lot of them personally as a result. Talented and super sweet folks.

And Silver Lake Sisters was sadly 5 years ago and I'm not sure we'll see something like that again at DLR. While I still adore the Guardians of the Galaxy: Awesome Dance-Off! (now in its fourth or fifth iteration!) - I know that's not everyone's cup of tea. And with shows like Mickey and the Magical Map (loved) and Frozen (didn't love) disappearing and spectaculars like Fantasmic still not back yet, I'm just quietly happy that the Dapper Dans and Bootstrappers were allowed to finally return along with the wonderful Five & Dime who were finally allowed to expand their repertoire for their last sets of the day!

PSA - folks, please take a few moments to stop and watch the shows at the parks. Not only are they a treat, but headcount of the crowds is paid attention to! Also, if you're sent a survey from the park and you enjoyed one of the shows, please mention it! Entertainment is always subject to brutal budget cuts and too many great shows - like the Silver Lake Sisters - can disappear with the stroke of an accountant's pen.

 

[TP2000]

Yeah, I don't often talk about my site or my YouTube channel here as it's not necessary to the conversation (and no, I am NOT a vlogger lol - I just record shows and performers, not me!). But yes - that's one of mine. (And... ok - plug... there's lots of park entertainment and park character content on there for folks who may be interested! Feel free to like and subscribe lol but I don't make any money from any of it - I've always posted content just to celebrate the talented cast members: https://www.youtube.com/mousertainment )

I'm thrilled I saw your content and posted it here. I'm still laughing at myself for being so dense as to think there'd be two people online called "Mousertainment", but that's what it's like being me.

But it's also why I get protective about the entertainment and character cast - I've spent a lot of time with them and I know a lot of them personally as a result. Talented and super sweet folks.

It's completely understandable. And kind of you to do.

And Silver Lake Sisters was sadly 5 years ago and I'm not sure we'll see something like that again at DLR.

No kidding. It was only a few years ago, but it seems like it could be 1985 or 1962. A different era. Bob Chapek really has ruined the parks. I can't even blame Covid for this one, this is a Chapek thing.

While I still adore the Guardians of the Galaxy: Awesome Dance-Off! (now in its fourth or fifth iteration!) - I know that's not everyone's cup of tea. And with shows like Mickey and the Magical Map (loved) and Frozen (didn't love) disappearing and spectaculars like Fantasmic still not back yet, I'm just quietly happy that the Dapper Dans and Bootstrappers were allowed to finally return along with the wonderful Five & Dime who were finally allowed to expand their repertoire for their last sets of the day!

PSA - folks, please take a few moments to stop and watch the shows at the parks. Not only are they a treat, but headcount of the crowds is paid attention to! Also, if you're sent a survey from the park and you enjoyed one of the shows, please mention it! Entertainment is always subject to brutal budget cuts and too many great shows - like the Silver Lake Sisters - can disappear with the stroke of an accountant's pen.

Agreed, and will do.

I have always thought Disneyland was a tapestry of experiences. Some are big and lavish and designed for 2,500 people per hour or 10,000 people per showing, and some are small and intimate and designed just for a few people at a time.

Many of Disneyland's beloved entertainment options fall into those two categories, from the giant spectaculars playing to thousands per night like Fantasmic!, to Minnie Mouse in a quiet corner somewhere with a young girl and her family who needs nothing more than a few moments with Minnie.

Disneyland is a tapestry of experiences. And it's entertainment are invaluable threads in that tapestry.


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[KeithVH]

<SNIP>

Disneyland is a tapestry of experiences. And it's entertainment are invaluable threads in that tapestry.


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Like . . . like . . . like a tapestry of Dreams?

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Like . . . like . . . like a tapestry of Dreams?

Or a Tapestry of Nations...


*crickets*

Oh, forgot this was the DLR forum for a second.

 

[TP2000]

Speaking of Latine culture, it would be amazing to get some space in DCA celebrating Latine culture. California is brimming with Latine history and culture and a fictional Puerto Rican, Mexican, El Salvadoran, etc. character would be perfect and it probably wouldn’t feel like tokenism.

Disney can and should do better.

To be fair to TDA, for the past decade DCA spends the autumn celebrating Dia De Los Muertos in Plaza de la Familia. Food, arts, entertainment, etc.




Then, when that holiday is done in early November, since 2012 it quickly gets transformed into the Viva Navidad! area of the park, with one of my all-time favorite shows that I absolutely can NOT miss. Food, arts, entertainment, etc.

I haven't bought a Magic Key yet, and I may never, but I will be buying a day ticket to DCA to see Viva Navidad! this Christmas. It's just pure fun!

 

[TP2000]

Miss Toro visits a country that hadn't existed for over a thousand years and a half millennia and won't exist again for over 40 years after Main Street USA is set? Now that's an anachronism, unless if she happens to be a time traveling member of SEA or something.

I'm supposed to be at a sociable a week from Friday with a dear, old Jewish friend. She's an absolute scream and hysterically funny.... I can not wait to read this press release to her and hear her reaction.

So earlier tonight at this sociable, out on a quiet patio, I ran this whole concept past my fabulously hilarious Jewish friend. She stared at me slightly slack-jawed, and then said (and I'm probably mis-spelling this) "What Meshuganah would come up with this kind of BS and live to tell about it in Hollywood?"

I think that's an excellent question. But I didn't have the heart to tell her this kind of stuff isn't written by "Hollywood" anymore, but by humorless HR ladies in Burbank. Regardless, we laughed hysterically.

Xmas is so incredibly overrated.

Halloween is where it's AT.....exspecially when going to trick-or-treat at @TP2000 's house.

Facts.

This afternoon I picked up my gift baskets at See's to be given out for the best costume awards on my front porch this year. I've got gift baskets for Best Girl, Best Boy, and Best Family, but I don't have anything for Best Xe or Best Xim or Best +. I hope no one from HR shows up to audit me!

And tonight at a sociable I made a young couple tell me what this Squid Game thing was all about so I know if it's a good costume or not. They were so sweet to try and explain it to me, although we all just ended up laughing about it all. I'm still not sure what it all means, but I'm just going to try and use my best judgement if some youngster arrives in a red track suit with a fencing mask on.

Happy Halloween, my friend!

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

To be fair to TDA, for the past decade DCA spends the autumn celebrating Dia De Los Muertos in Plaza de la Familia. Food, arts, entertainment, etc.




Then, when that holiday is done in early November, since 2012 it quickly gets transformed into the Viva Navidad! area of the park, with one of my all-time favorite shows that I absolutely can NOT miss. Food, arts, entertainment, etc.

I haven't bought a Magic Key yet, and I may never, but I will be buying a day ticket to DCA to see Viva Navidad! this Christmas. It's just pure fun!

I really do hope the Coco boat ride attraction makes it to California Adventure one day. DCA certainly needs something like this!

 

[Californian Elitist]

To be fair to TDA, for the past decade DCA spends the autumn celebrating Dia De Los Muertos in Plaza de la Familia. Food, arts, entertainment, etc.




Then, when that holiday is done in early November, since 2012 it quickly gets transformed into the Viva Navidad! area of the park, with one of my all-time favorite shows that I absolutely can NOT miss. Food, arts, entertainment, etc.

I haven't bought a Magic Key yet, and I may never, but I will be buying a day ticket to DCA to see Viva Navidad! this Christmas. It's just pure fun!

I wouldn’t count this as being up to par regarding good, quality attractions and offerings based on Californian Latine culture and history.

 

[mickEblu]

Latine with an “e”? Why do I feel like I don’t want to know?

 

[Californian Elitist]

Latine with an “e”? Why do I feel like I don’t want to know?

You most likely don’t want to know, but “Latine” is deemed a more appropriate word to use than “Latinos” by some because it gets rid of the masculinity by removing the “o” at the end.

“Latino” is just another word that has evolved over time.

 

[mickEblu]

You most likely don’t want to know, but “Latine” is deemed a more appropriate word to use than “Latinos” by some because it gets rid of the masculinity by removing the “o” at the end.

“Latino” is just another word that has evolved over time.

I figured it was something along these lines. Deemed more appropriate by who? None of the Latinos I know use the term.

 

[TP2000]

I wouldn’t count this as being up to par regarding good, quality attractions and offerings based on Californian Latine culture and history.

Really? I think it's fabulous stuff, especially Viva Navidad.

I mean, Viva Navidad has no time-traveling Puerto Rican woman of tremendous wealth running a small town Christmas shop in the Midwest of 1905. But they try hard!

 

[TP2000]

I figured it was something along these lines. Deemed more appropriate by who? None of the Latinos I know use the term.

I'd never seen the word Latine in print or heard it in speech until this thread, myself.

Just like Latinx, it appears to be a word invented out of thin air by non-Latinos and used mainly in faculty lounges and HR department conference rooms.

None of the Latinos I know use that word either, and I live in Southern California and socialize with a great many Latinos. Orange County is 39% Latino, San Diego County is 35% Latino. My Latino friends use the word Latinos to mean all Latinos of both genders, or they use the word Latinas to refer specifically to women or Latina an individual woman.

About One-in-Four U.S. Hispanics Have Heard of Latinx, but Just 3% Use It

The term Latinx has emerged in recent years as a gender-neutral alternative to the pan-ethnic terms Latino, Latina and Hispanic. However, awareness of Latinx is relatively low among the population it is meant to describe.

www.pewresearch.org

Why the Term ‘Latinx’ Hasn’t Taken Off Among Latins — And Likely Never Will

Why 'Latinx' Hasn't Caught On With Latins

www.billboard.com

“The population it’s meant to describe isn’t even aware of it,” says Mark Hugo Lopez, Director of Global Migration and Demography research at the Pew Research Center, and one of the authors of the August 11 study. “It’s a striking finding.”

A "striking finding" for who exactly? The pompous white folks in the faculty lounge who made it up out of thin air and force themselves to use it to make themselves sound cool?

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

I figured it was something along these lines. Deemed more appropriate by who? None of the Latinos I know use the term.

Latine is the reaction from people shoving latinx down people's throats after it was pointed out how idiotic latinx is.

Nothing wrong with telling people your entire language is sexist and I'm going to change it for you as I see fit, right.? Inclusive!

 

[mickEblu]

I'd never seen the word Latine in print or heard it in speech until this thread, myself.

Just like Latinx, it appears to be a word invented out of thin air by non-Latinos and used mainly in faculty lounges and HR department conference rooms.

None of the Latinos I know use that word either, and I live in Southern California and socialize with a great many Latinos. Orange County is 39% Latino, San Diego County is 35% Latino. My Latino friends use the word Latinos to mean all Latinos of both genders, or they use the word Latinas to refer specifically to women or Latina an individual woman.

About One-in-Four U.S. Hispanics Have Heard of Latinx, but Just 3% Use It

The term Latinx has emerged in recent years as a gender-neutral alternative to the pan-ethnic terms Latino, Latina and Hispanic. However, awareness of Latinx is relatively low among the population it is meant to describe.

www.pewresearch.org

Why the Term ‘Latinx’ Hasn’t Taken Off Among Latins — And Likely Never Will

Why 'Latinx' Hasn't Caught On With Latins

www.billboard.com

“The population it’s meant to describe isn’t even aware of it,” says Mark Hugo Lopez, Director of Global Migration and Demography research at the Pew Research Center, and one of the authors of the August 11 study. “It’s a striking finding.”

A "striking finding" for who exactly? The pompous white folks in the faculty lounge who made it up out of thin air and force themselves to use it to make themselves sound cool?

It’s clear that all these changes are made by and to appease to people of the extreme left of a specific political party. They have nothing to do with the races or Minorities they claim to be doing it for. Most Latinos probably don’t even know “Latine” is a word.

 

[TP2000]

Most Latinos probably don’t even know “Latine” is a word.

I can guarantee you they don't.

But that's not going to stop me from asking the next time I'm with friends. Especially the Latina lady who absolutely railed against the made-up word Latinx at a dinner party several months ago! I can't wait to get her going again with "Latine".

 

[TP2000]

We've been joking here, but honest question @raven24, how do you pronounce Latine?

Does it rhyme with "latrine" (the word for a communal toilet facility), or does it rhyme with "gratinee" (French meaning to cook au grautin)

Put another way... Are we saying it La-Teen, or are we saying it La-Teen-Eh?