MagicBands to be used in place of parking permit paperwork for resort guests

ULPO46

ULPO46

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Honestly I believe the Magic Band was the worst idea Disney has ever come up with. It will stick around for a couple more years but it's way to complicated for tourist and repeat tourist to actually use and understand. I think it's a cool technology, but it's a terrible product that has no instructions that can be understood easily. Disney has imbedded to much crap into the MyMagic+ Band. Credit Card, Day/Annual Pass, Room Key, FastPass+, and the list goes on. In essence I feel they should have done a few more years of testing before having made this a complication.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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chiefs11 said:
They could just send you a pdf to print yourself before you leave.. much like airline boarding passes, and how concerts and sporting events do it.
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If you want to curb abuse you need the license number on the pass and part of 2D barcode, hard if you have a rental hence the guard shack printer, Otherwise PDF would be fine if you are driving down.

With a system like this periodically parking CM's/Security could scan the passes in the cars and issue a ticket if you have not paid in one way or another.

It does not have to be PERFECT you just need to catch enough of them so people decide for the most part it's not worth the risk.
 
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Flalex72

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ford91exploder said:
The long range RFID in MB are not suited for that application as they are based on a derivative of BLE and the metal body of cars will tend to shield the sensor as it operates in the 2.4 Ghz ISM band.

The SunPass etc operate at a much lower frequency and as such it easily penetrates the car body.
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If you used the long range reader though, you should be able to at least read it from a few feet away, and likely without stopping. All the driver or passenger would have to do then is hold up their arm so the signal only has to penetrate the glass, which removes the mickey-mickey alignment issue.
 
unkadug

unkadug

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Nemo14 said:
The only questions he has asked in this whole thread are these:
Am I the only one who is bummed out about losing one of the few 'free' souvenirs??

and

When did I ever say I paid for parking?
which he goes on to explain that he is a resort guest so he does not have to pay for parking:
I am confused :confused:. I check in at my resort - they gave me a piece of paper with some WDW stuff on it, my name and check out date to put in my windshield. That precludes me from paying to park

I'm not sure which of these questions you find so upsetting.
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Wow, you sure were nice to someone who told you to "Butt Out".

I'm sure I would have responded in kind, but I had a rough day.

I can't wait to hear his reasoning.
 
cspencer96

cspencer96

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ULPO46 said:
Honestly I believe the Magic Band was the worst idea Disney has ever come up with. It will stick around for a couple more years but it's way to complicated for tourist and repeat tourist to actually use and understand. I think it's a cool technology, but it's a terrible product that has no instructions that can be understood easily. Disney has imbedded to much crap into the MyMagic+ Band. Credit Card, Day/Annual Pass, Room Key, FastPass+, and the list goes on. In essence I feel they should have done a few more years of testing before having made this a complication.
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You know what instructions are needed in the case of a wristband that does everything? You just say "It does everything." They've had all of this (minus FastPass+ and parking) in the Key to the World card for years already, and the MagicBand hasn't been a concept that's difficult to grasp for the majority of people. They get that it's a band with stuff in it that does everything you need for Disney while on property. The difficult part is the stuff surrounding it, mainly FastPass+.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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Flalex72 said:
If you used the long range reader though, you should be able to at least read it from a few feet away, and likely without stopping. All the driver or passenger would have to do then is hold up their arm so the signal only has to penetrate the glass, which removes the mickey-mickey alignment issue.
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At which point it interrogates multiple readers in the car, Which one is authoritative this just adds complexity to something which should be simple.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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cspencer96 said:
You know what instructions are needed in the case of a wristband that does everything? You just say "It does everything." They've had all of this (minus FastPass+ and parking) in the Key to the World card for years already, and the MagicBand hasn't been a concept that's difficult to grasp for the majority of people. They get that it's a band with stuff in it that does everything you need for Disney while on property. The difficult part is the stuff surrounding it, mainly FastPass+.
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You mean the all singing all dancing MB which was supposed to be the ONLY thing you need at WDW no more drivers license, CC KTTW and Annual Pass DVC membership card,

And yet all it's done is make getting FP's incredibly complex and inflexible and you STILL need all the other stuff so they've replaced a cheap plastic card with an expensive wrist band. Yeah a real win for the guests.
 
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Disney5204

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Longers said:
Last year we were able to use the magic band to enter our resort through a barrier. The problem was we had to start taking the MB off before driving up as the MB was on the right wrist and the scanner was on the left. We were prepared but others weren't. We didn't experience delays but queues into parks might be an issue.
And we know we could have changed wrists but it would still have been difficult getting the right angle to"touch in" with your arm stuck out a car window
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This is exactly what I was thinking. Last year when I tried to reach out the window and use my MB, I had to roll down the window, twist my arm, nope that doesn't work, open the door, stick my arm out, twist, adjust, and voila, it worked. Way too much time. I'll just go to the security station. Can see where this will cause major backups if not perfected.
 
TyrantBoss

TyrantBoss

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Having everyone stop to scan their magic band is a pain in the . And if you are the driver you have to either take off your band to get it read, or wear it on your left arm AND pull in with the reader on the driver's side.
Even with the paper parking passes it is already slow going at the parking terminals.
If they want to do something to make things easier, give an EZ Pass style parking monitor to people who check in to a Disney resort. Register it to their vehicle.
Then create an express lane where resorts guests can just drive in and not stop. That would make it MUCH easier.
 
WDF

WDF

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ford91exploder

ford91exploder

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draybook said:
In all fairness, people should be taking the band off before pulling up to the reader at the resort entrance. Makes it much easier and faster to scan and go.
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Agree - Kind of defeats the purpose though, I used to wear a lanyard with my KTTW and other stuff it was much easier just to take off lanyard and wave it at the reader - none of this BS Mickey to Mickey stuff.
 
ford91exploder

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
TyrantBoss said:
Having everyone stop to scan their magic band is a pain in the ***. And if you are the driver you have to either take off your band to get it read, or wear it on your left arm AND pull in with the reader on the driver's side.
Even with the paper parking passes it is already slow going at the parking terminals.
If they want to do something to make things easier, give an EZ Pass style parking monitor to people who check in to a Disney resort. Register it to their vehicle.
Then create an express lane where resorts guests can just drive in and not stop. That would make it MUCH easier.
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THIS!!!!
 
jakeman

jakeman

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Having used both the MB and the KTTW cards at the reader they are both the same level of inconvenience.

There really isn't any difference between taking a card out of your wallet or from around your next or unsnapping a MB off your wrist.
 
fillerup

fillerup

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WDF said:
Actually, Walt Disney World controls 2 municipalities, which CAN write tickets. They have simply contracted with local county and/or state law enforcement to do so...like many small municipalities that don't want to or can't afford to maintain their own police force.

http://rcid.org/About/CityofBayLake.aspx

http://rcid.org/About/CityofLakeBuenaVista.aspx
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The two municipalities inside the RCID could have police departments if they so chose. Since they've chosen not to, they can't issue tickets.

My statement was in response to the suggestion that Parking and Security CMs could issue tickets in the lots. They can't.

That's why although Security can pull you over for speeding or reckless driving, they can't give you anything more than a warning to slow it down and be careful. This was all gone over pretty thoroughly in a lawsuit back in the '90s.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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fillerup said:
The two municipalities inside the RCID could have police departments if they so chose. Since they've chosen not to, they can't issue tickets.

My statement was in response to the suggestion that Parking and Security CMs could issue tickets in the lots. They can't.

That's why although Security can pull you over for speeding or reckless driving, they can't give you anything more than a warning to slow it down and be careful. This was all gone over pretty thoroughly in a lawsuit back in the '90s.
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Disney trying to actually put together a Reedy Creek Improvement District, Bay Lake and/or Lake Buena Vista police force would probably result in the Reedy Creek Improvement District being dissolved by the state legislature.
 

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