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Have to go get ready for "date night" (this one better be better than the last!!!). First we're going to see MIL (still in the hospital...I can't believe it!!) then maybe to Doylestown.

Might have time to check in before we go.

If not, love you, all my little figments...
 

Uponastar

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Perhaps. Or perhaps we are brains in vats. (yeah, very Matrixy, but it was written down in the 17th century, long before the movie) Perhaps there is some sort of evil demon controlling the way that you perceive reality. If you accept that as a possibility, there's a chance you might just be cast into some sort of hyperbolic doubt about everything. That's what Descartes is struggling with in the Meditations.

But here's the thing. . .and I'm not knocking your field and most certainly not your intelligence. . .but all of this is theory. . .it can't be proved or disproved. . .so ultimately, what is the point? What do you, personally, hope to learn from your research?
 

Uponastar

Well-Known Member
Have to go get ready for "date night" (this one better be better than the last!!!). First we're going to see MIL (still in the hospital...I can't believe it!!) then maybe to Doylestown.

Might have time to check in before we go.

If not, love you, all my little figments...

Here's hoping you have a wonderful "date night".
And ((HUGS)) about MIL. . .I know it's hard.
Love you Amy, dear! :kiss:
 

Pongo

New Member
So I just watched Alien.

Uhh... :lookaroun

Whatever. Scratch the A off my Summer '07 Cinematic Alphabet list.

So far I have:

Alien
The Blues Brothers

NEXT UP! Some C movie.
 
To yourself. Or maybe your Nibblies is only a false belief you hold! :eek:

I personally find solipsism a dangerous philosophical position because of some of the ethical implications it may hold.

Such as...I can do any bad thing I want to you because you may not be real?

Or am I misunderstanding the philosophy?

(I really am leaving)
 

PotteryGal

Active Member
Haha, strangely that's not a Berkeley conversation. He believes we are definitely here. That's more of a Descartes situation. Know the whole cogito ergo sum (I think, therefore I am) problem? That's based somewhat on whether we can reasonably be solipsists. Solipsism is a position that explains we cannot be sure of anyone else's true existence other than our own.


I think my brain just exploded. :dazzle: Clearly another reason why college and I didn't get along. :lol:

Back from supper: actually breakfast/supper (pancakes), so ....bupper?? :confused:

I told you my brain exploded. :lookaroun
 

nibblesandbits

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
To yourself. Or maybe your Nibblies is only a false belief you hold! :eek:

I personally find solipsism a dangerous philosophical position because of some of the ethical implications it may hold.
Well, maybe the perception of me is...how others think I really am...my true self is something only I can know.
 

nibblesandbits

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Have to go get ready for "date night" (this one better be better than the last!!!). First we're going to see MIL (still in the hospital...I can't believe it!!) then maybe to Doylestown.

Might have time to check in before we go.

If not, love you, all my little figments...
Good night Amy! Have a great "date night"

Love you too figment! :lookaroun :lol:
 

nibblesandbits

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
So I just watched Alien.

Uhh... :lookaroun

Whatever. Scratch the A off my Summer '07 Cinematic Alphabet list.

So far I have:

Alien
The Blues Brothers

NEXT UP! Some C movie.
You plan on watching a movie for every letter of the alphabet this summer?

Cool...have you seen Casablanca? It would be a good C movie.

And Hi Luke!
 

WDWSwashbuckler

New Member
But here's the thing. . .and I'm not knocking your field and most certainly not your intelligence. . .but all of this is theory. . .it can't be proved or disproved. . .so ultimately, what is the point? What do you, personally, hope to learn from your research?

Really, there's 2 kinds of philosophy in the grand scheme of things. One is analytical (very dry and awfully boring) and historical, which is what I'm more interested in. The culture of the 17th and 18th centuries was completely diametrically opposite of our own. This is the kind of stuff that was being talked about in posts, on the street, at work! Studying this philosophy allows us to tap into the thinking of a not so distant past. And, as little as many people think this matters to a contemporary world, it is incredibly important to understanding our evolving culture. As little as we realize it, philosophy is still being fed to us every day, often forcibly. We are indoctrinated with the tenants of postmodern ethical thought daily and we spew it out like it's part of some sort of manifesto we've recited without giving much thought to it. Studying the way philosophy influenced the culture even 400 years ago allows us more than just a glimpse of how it's transforming our own culture.
 

nibblesandbits

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I think my brain just exploded. :dazzle: Clearly another reason why college and I didn't get along. :lol:

Back from supper: actually breakfast/supper (pancakes), so ....bupper?? :confused:

I told you my brain exploded. :lookaroun
Don't worry...mine exploded a long time ago! :lol:

Hi Jenny! :wave:
 

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