M:S loading of centerfuge?

Sansaarai

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You guys do realize you are not blasting off into space. Its a themepark ride.


Don't judge it until you have experienced it!
 

AndyMagic

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Re: Why is everyone dissappointed?

Originally posted by lt-hambone
Just because Mission Space is going to be a test-like ride instead of a full-blown simulated ride (like the old Mission to Mars) doesn’t mean bad news. The Disney magic is all about transporting people to places they have only dreamed about. In this case, that place is a training facility for astronauts. How many of us have ever been to space camp? How many of us have had a chance to ride in a real centrifuge? So what if you the ride system – this is going to be one cool ride!

I’m also glad that this isn’t going to be one those "something goes terribly wrong" rides – Disney has too many of them! Look at the list – Alien Encounter, Winnie the Pooh, Body Wars, Star Wars, Dinosaur, Muppets 4D, Twilight Zone, Tiki Birds, Honey I Shrunk The Audience – did I miss any? If Mission Space turns out to be a good-natured trainer, then I say, good for them! It’s about time they added a positive ride where nothing goes wrong and everything goes right.

Uh oh, I think I hear the flame throwers warming up! I had better duck quickly!


:cool:
The "Something goes wrong" scenario is used all the time for a reason. Because it is the most entertaining. It is the same for movies. No one wants to go see a movie without a conflict that needs a resolution? And it doesn't have to have a "something goes wrong" scenario either. I am just upset that we get a look at the ride system before we go on it! That is like taking a tour of Haunted Mansion with all the special effects explained to you and THEN you get to ride it. There are many other things they could have done but they chose the exact same theme as Test Track which is a few feet away. Half the fun of the ride would have been the questions afterward. "How did they make us feel weightless??" Now everyone will have the answer. "You were spinning around in a circle really fast and then the direction of the pod was changed" And if Disney plans on showing us the ride system... why have they made such a big deal keeping it under wraps with no press release explaining the effect?
 

ToTBellHop

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Based on these posts, it is apparent that many of you know very little about NASA training. Watch Apollo XIII for me. They go through training there--something WILL go wrong on this ride. When NASA trains astronauts, they go through every possible problem. Of course, the fact that we seem to know little about training is good--we will all learn a lot from this attraction--but something WILL go wrong. That is where the interactive aspect of the ride comes into play...something goes wrong, now FIX IT! Of course, not wanting guests to feel as though they have died in space, if guests cannot complete their tasks, the computer does it for them...happy ending, but it will have its share of excitement...amplified by the weightlessness. Also, the interactive aspect may make this one of those "no two rides are the same" attractions...
 

jwbeck3

Member
I am mad and interested at the same time. I am disapointed that you will be able to see the centrifuge, but if the theme is a training center, then that would fit the theme. I guess it wasn't the theme some of us wanted.
 
Originally posted by Sansaarai
You guys do realize you are not blasting off into space. Its a themepark ride.
Yes, of course.:) (One could only wish Disney could give all theme park visitors an actual trip into space!) But a "simulator of a simulator of going into space" just doesn't seem as cool or as immersive as a fully themed "going into space" ride.

Just for comparision's sake, Star Tours feels like you're in a spaceport in the Star Wars universe, and you're boarding a ship there. Body Wars feels like you're being shrunk and injected into a body. Dinosaur feels like you've been sent back 200 million years. All things that are completely impossible in real life.

Or, for an another brilliant (non-Disney) twist, there's the Star Trek Experience at Las Vegas, where you THINK you're getting on a simulator in the beginning and then you... well, I can't spoil it for anyone who hasn't done it.

On the other hand, Test Track takes you to a testing ground - it's still a very fun ride, but doesn't have that magical "take me somewhere impossible to go elsewhere" feel to it. Kilamanjaro Safaris takes you to Africa - very, very cool, but not "magical." It doesn't mean these rides are no good, but I don't get quite that old "little kid awe" the first time I ride them.

I'm sure M:S will be a lot of fun, and I'm still looking forward to it. But I was anticipating a well-themed, relatively realistic (in a futuristic sort of way) trip into space, not a simulator of the same.

I think this reduces the anticipation of the ride enough that I don't need to bug my wife for another trip to WDW for a while... (I can wait until our probable next trip in two years) So, in essence, it'll save me a bunch of money, and so it's not all a bad thing!
 

AndyMagic

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Originally posted by FourFourSeven
Yes, of course.:) (One could only wish Disney could give all theme park visitors an actual trip into space!) But a "simulator of a simulator of going into space" just doesn't seem as cool or as immersive as a fully themed "going into space" ride.

Just for comparision's sake, Star Tours feels like you're in a spaceport in the Star Wars universe, and you're boarding a ship there. Body Wars feels like you're being shrunk and injected into a body. Dinosaur feels like you've been sent back 200 million years. All things that are completely impossible in real life.

Or, for an another brilliant (non-Disney) twist, there's the Star Trek Experience at Las Vegas, where you THINK you're getting on a simulator in the beginning and then you... well, I can't spoil it for anyone who hasn't done it.

On the other hand, Test Track takes you to a testing ground - it's still a very fun ride, but doesn't have that magical "take me somewhere impossible to go elsewhere" feel to it. Kilamanjaro Safaris takes you to Africa - very, very cool, but not "magical." It doesn't mean these rides are no good, but I don't get quite that old "little kid awe" the first time I ride them.

I'm sure M:S will be a lot of fun, and I'm still looking forward to it. But I was anticipating a well-themed, relatively realistic (in a futuristic sort of way) trip into space, not a simulator of the same.

I think this reduces the anticipation of the ride enough that I don't need to bug my wife for another trip to WDW for a while... (I can wait until our probable next trip in two years) So, in essence, it'll save me a bunch of money, and so it's not all a bad thing!
Exactly! Test Tracks premise simply isn't magical at all. It is a fun ride of course but nothing that happens on it seems impossible in the real world. According to the official Mission: SPACE press release, it takes place several years from now. What is the point of having this setting if we are visitors to a training facility? That really isn't all that amazing even by today's technology. Also, what is the video in the pod going to be like? Will it be super realistic looking or will it look like a training program with video game like graphics? No matter how you slice it it is just wasted potential. If any of you get the chance head on over to Jim Hill Media and check out his archives. He talks about the original premise for this ride and how it supposed to be a true MISSION into space until the budget was cut and they had to settle for a training center theme. Also, someone explain to me all the promotional stuff that Disney released?? Why is the official Mission: Space poster a shuttle heading towards astroids with planets everywhere? Why is the slogon... "Mission: SPACE, We Choose To Go," when the theme makes it perfectly clear that we aren't going anywhere??
 

ToTBellHop

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Originally posted by AndyMagic
Exactly! Test Tracks premise simply isn't magical at all. It is a fun ride of course but nothing that happens on it seems impossible in the real world. According to the official Mission: SPACE press release, it takes place several years from now. What is the point of having this setting if we are visitors to a training facility? That really isn't all that amazing even by today's technology. Also, what is the video in the pod going to be like? Will it be super realistic looking or will it look like a training program with video game like graphics? No matter how you slice it it is just wasted potential. If any of you get the chance head on over to Jim Hill Media and check out his archives. He talks about the original premise for this ride and how it supposed to be a true MISSION into space until the budget was cut and they had to settle for a training center theme. Also, someone explain to me all the promotional stuff that Disney released?? Why is the official Mission: Space poster a shuttle heading towards astroids with planets everywhere? Why is the slogon... "Mission: SPACE, We Choose To Go," when the theme makes it perfectly clear that we aren't going anywhere??

Stop judging a ride you know nearly nothing about. This ride cost over $200,000,000. Disney will do it right, and it is obvious to me, they know it is an incredible experience--even ASTRONAUTS say it is incredible--you will be blown away by this ride upon disembarking. Why does the poster show that? Because you will see it. This will not feel like an Atari game--for $200,000,000+, as I said, it will blow you away; the Imagineers know how to design an attraction better than we do.
 

AndyMagic

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Originally posted by DogsRule!
Stop judging a ride you know nearly nothing about. This ride cost over $200,000,000. Disney will do it right, and it is obvious to me, they know it is an incredible experience--even ASTRONAUTS say it is incredible--you will be blown away by this ride upon disembarking. Why does the poster show that? Because you will see it. This will not feel like an Atari game--for $200,000,000+, as I said, it will blow you away; the Imagineers know how to design an attraction better than we do.
I am not judging the ride, I am judging the premise. And I am well aware that it cost over 200 million and that the experience will probably blow me away. I was simply saying that it is a real shame that the original premise of the ride didn't make it off the drawing board and was replaced with a concept that doesn't get me too excited. As for the poster... I still would like to know why it says... "Mission: SPACE, We Choose to Go!" We choose to go to a spinning centrifuge?? It isn't Mission: SPACE ... it is Mission: Training about Space. If that makes any sense. :veryconfu lol
 

Main Street USA

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I think seeing the entire centrifuge is a great. I can't wait to get an overview of these huge things, and then talk myself into getting inside one of those pods. :)
 

WDWFREAK53

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Wow...I was extremely excited about this attraction...and while, I'm sure it'll be an unbelievable experience...I'm not "excited" anymore. I wanted something new in EPCOT...not the same "story" as it's neighbor. (Why do I feel this is another WoM syndrome? Great attraction being replaced with a training center that doesn't portray a message?)

I do like Test Track, don't get me wrong...and I ride EVERY chance I get...BUT...I only enjoy the "RIDE"...it doesn't "engulf" me into a storyline.

(Oh...and THIS IS SPACEFLIGHT HERE...THAT ALONE IS FUN AND EXCITING...why would something NEED to go wrong???)

Not enough thrill in getting rocketed into orbit, experiencing weightlessness, and then re-entering the atmosphere for ya???
 

DMC-12

It's HarmonioUS, NOT HarmoniYOU.
Originally posted by AndyMagic
I am not judging the ride, I am judging the premise. And I am well aware that it cost over 200 million and that the experience will probably blow me away. I was simply saying that it is a real shame that the original premise of the ride didn't make it off the drawing board and was replaced with a concept that doesn't get me too excited. As for the poster... I still would like to know why it says... "Mission: SPACE, We Choose to Go!" We choose to go to a spinning centrifuge?? It isn't Mission: SPACE ... it is Mission: Training about Space. If that makes any sense. :veryconfu lol

I completely understand :sohappy: ... and that is why I got angry... the ORIGINAL story was to blast off from earth... and go on a "Mission in SPACE!"... NOT... "Mission : Hey, I am gonna stay here on earth and practice stuff about space things...kinda sorta!". :lol:

I wont be to harsh now... I will wait till it opens... Its gotta be better than Atari graphics (one would hope) :lol: ;)
 
Originally posted by DogsRule!
Stop judging a ride you know nearly nothing about. This ride cost over $200,000,000. Disney will do it right, and it is obvious to me, they know it is an incredible experience--even ASTRONAUTS say it is incredible--you will be blown away by this ride upon disembarking. Why does the poster show that? Because you will see it. This will not feel like an Atari game--for $200,000,000+, as I said, it will blow you away; the Imagineers know how to design an attraction better than we do.

I don't think people are judging the ride - we're judging the CONCEPT of the ride, which we now know quite a bit about, and we are disappointed (with good reason, in my opinion).

That being said, given Disney Imagineering's track record with big budgets (ToT, Spash Mountain, etc.), I do think the ride will probably be amazing. But like many others here, I wish it was a slightly different concept.

Incidentally, the movie "Waterworld" cost nearly $200 million to make, and was positively dreadful, so cost alone means little to me.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
The concept of this ride has involved a training center since it broke down, with the training center at Innoventions that has been there quite some time. It would not be logical to do a space flight...this is a four minute ride...realize that. It would be quite tough to have a space flight in four minutes. How much more do you know about this ride than we knew a year ago? We now know we will see the centrifuge...we do not know the story, the theming, the overall experience...At this point, it would be like judging the Tower of Terror only knowing it was an "hotel elevator ride"...give the ride a chance.
 

dopey

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Originally posted by wdwmagic
Yup it is a simulated training flight, and the ride capsule is not going to be concealed. You are going to see the ride pod and other associated hardware (basically the big black centrifuge, big arms hanging off it, and 10 white 4 person pods)

Sounds like a slightly upgraded version of Dumbo! The difference is you're not being TRAINED to ride a flying elephant, you ARE riding a flying elephant! Yep, I'm convinced that M:S will be nowhere nearly as exciting as Dumbo. :D
 

WDWFREAK53

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by dopey
Sounds like a slightly upgraded version of Dumbo! The difference is you're not being TRAINED to ride a flying elephant, you ARE riding a flying elephant! Yep, I'm convinced that M:S will be nowhere nearly as exciting as Dumbo. :D

:lol: :lol: :lol:

This is pretty funny

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 

WDWFREAK53

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by DogsRule!
The concept of this ride has involved a training center since it broke down, with the training center at Innoventions that has been there quite some time. It would not be logical to do a space flight...this is a four minute ride...realize that. It would be quite tough to have a space flight in four minutes. How much more do you know about this ride than we knew a year ago? We now know we will see the centrifuge...we do not know the story, the theming, the overall experience...At this point, it would be like judging the Tower of Terror only knowing it was an "hotel elevator ride"...give the ride a chance.

Hmmm...4 minutes huh...I believe that I have a space flight in just a little 2 on Space Mountain :lol:
 

Domboy

Member
I just wanna know - will it make me sick like all the other simulators :hurl:

i have a distinct feeling im gonna be alking round teh shops as my Dad and Sis enjoy this one!

hahaha

but whatever teh storyline - disney is about magic - making the unreal become real - if the involves a training flight - then fine - coz I dont get that fast in my car!

:)
 
Originally posted by dopey
Sounds like a slightly upgraded version of Dumbo! The difference is you're not being TRAINED to ride a flying elephant, you ARE riding a flying elephant! Yep, I'm convinced that M:S will be nowhere nearly as exciting as Dumbo. :D
My four-year-old and 18-month-old wholeheartedly agree!

Originally posted by DogsRule!
It would not be logical to do a space flight...this is a four minute ride...realize that.
What about:
-Space Mountain?
-Star Tours?
-Mission to Mars?
-Astrojets? (Okay, I'm just being obnoxious now...)
 

Testtrack321

Well-Known Member
All the Space flights you mention are fictional in nature and only for entertainment. M:S is the opisite. It is supposed to feel like a *real* space flight with real take off and landing. Compare this to Star Tours that all you have to do is just hover then engage auto pilot.
 

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